2025 Ladder Predictions

[hawkman]

No Victorian teams to make the 8, bookmark it.

It may have been possible except for the fact that it requires West Coast to make the 8

 

[hawkman]

Hawthorn finishing up in the top 6 this season means they're in the group that receives the hardest fixture for 2025. They won't get the leg-up of playing both Richmond and North twice like they did this year. Likely to still make top 8, but 5-8 range.

Some of the fixture stuff is pure luck. A hard draw in December can look like an easy draw after the season.

This season we got Collingwood, GWS, Adelaide, Geelong, Richmond and North. Last December it was rated one of the tougher fixtures. We got lucky that Collingwood and Adelaide dropped off and Richmond became awful while we were unlucky Geelong jumped up. In the end it was a much easier draw than what it looked originally.

 

[Fadge]

Some of the fixture stuff is pure luck. A hard draw in December can look like an easy draw after the season.

This season we got Collingwood, GWS, Adelaide, Geelong, Richmond and North. Last December it was rated one of the tougher fixtures. We got lucky that Collingwood and Adelaide dropped off and Richmond became awful while we were unlucky Geelong jumped up. In the end it was a much easier draw than what it looked originally.

Yep, exactly right.

But even more than that... how were the teams travelling when you played them?

Hawthorn were a different team in the first 5 rounds than they were for the rest of the season; Carlton were woeful for the last 9 rounds of the season; Brisbane were ordinary for the first 7 games of the season; What in game injuries did your opposition have when you played them?

To accurately analyse the difficulty of a draw, you really have to go into the minute detail of each team at each round, and I've never seen anyone do this.

Of course, there can be clear outliers, such as teams lucky enough to get double up games against the two clear worst teams in the competition, who were woeful for most of the season.

 

[NetworkNerd]

After the trade period there is a chance Geelong will go 23-0 and Richmond 0-23 and everyone else somewhere in between

 

[Mojo]

Hawthorn finishing up in the top 6 this season means they're in the group that receives the hardest fixture for 2025. They won't get the leg-up of playing both Richmond and North twice like they did this year. Likely to still make top 8, but 5-8 range.

There's several variables involved in hypothesising a team's future ladder position. i.e. is the team trending in a particular direction? Players/Coaches acquired or lost during the off-season, greater/fewer prime-time slots, fixture (hasn't been confirmed), list age, etc.

 

[wahawk]

Freo playing Freo second week of finals is gonna be a tough game

I’d vote for Jello_B to be on the AFLcommission.
They’ve finally got rid of Essendone from the AFL

 

[wahawk]

No Victorian teams to make the 8, bookmark it.

Do you really want anyone to bookmark this ?

 

[Blackhawk42]

1. Brisbane
2. Sydney
3. Collingwood
4. Geelong
5. Carlton
6. GWS
7. Hawks
8. Port

9. Freo
10. Bulldogs
11. Adelaide
12. Melbourne
13. North Melbourne
14. St Kilda
15. Gold Coast
16. Essendon
17. West Coast
18. Richmond

Gee that's a tough top 4 for neutral supporters. The same 4 teams from the last 3 years of Grand Finals.

 

[Jezzitizle]

Gee that's a tough top 4 for neutral supporters. The same 4 teams from the last 3 years of Grand Finals.

To be fair it would mean Pies are probably back to playing run and gun footy which is a good watch.

I could handle a Cats v Pies granny if Freo can’t get there, think it’d be a good watch.

 

[Blackhawk42]

To be fair it would mean Pies are probably back to playing run and gun footy which is a good watch.

I could handle a Cats v Pies granny if Freo can’t get there, think it’d be a good watch.

Don't reckon they'll anywhere near it personally.
The older players who let them down this season are going to be a year older again.

Best chance they've got is De Goey playing 23 consistent games at his best level, and McStay, Membery and Mihochek all booting 35 goals +.