List Mgmt. 2025 List Management 📃

[Bamboo Harvester]

Funny little tidbit on the Hawks board

Andrew Brayshaw coming back home next year as a FA and we're supposedly the frontrunner

Cripps
Walsh
Brayshaw
Cerra
FOS/Draper/Lalor/Smith
Hewett

Where would that midfield rank across the league?

And if Freo supporters didn't hate us enough already in the most one way rivalry in the history of the AFL....

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I find that rumour extremely hard to believe. Brayshaw really isn’t the kind of player we need either.

Highly unlikely but fun to speculate about regardless. Would make some sense after clearing so much cap space this off season and only picking up Haynes but think we'd have other interests in the free agent market.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

And if Freo supporters didn't hate us enough already in the most one way rivalry in the history of the AFL....

The melts would be absolutely glorious

 

[beowulf]

We recruit a guy, invest 4 years developing him, get all the way up to the point where he looks like becoming a regular player then delist him for nothing. And is a good guy / hard worker.

As I say strangest LM decision I've ever seen.

I do think Jack Carroll was more than a little unlucky: he did play 15 games, after all. But his place is basically going to Ben Camporeale, who gets his own pill and appears to have more defensive side to his game. Or Cooper Lord, who also is looking pretty decent and who has a strong defensive side to his game.
Was Jack going to get picked before these guys? You wouldn't suggest it at the moment.
Also, apparently Billy Wilson is going to -play more of a midfield role in 2025. Billy has pace and run, both of which we need.

As for Corey Durdin, he has another 12 months to demonstrate that he has what it takes. If he doesn't make in 2025, he could well be surplus to needs.

As to Brayshaw, my question would be, what is the price? if he is a free agent, I'd welcome him with open arms.

 

[Benaly28]

We’re gonna have enough on our plate to secure TDK little own trying to secure a free agent that wants more coin.


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[WalshistheGOAT]

We’re gonna have enough on our plate to secure TDK little own trying to secure a free agent that wants more coin.


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We just booted 10 players and are replacing them with draftees+DFA/Rookies.

We also have 16 out of contract next season.

We'll have no issue stumping up the money for TDK

 

[Blue_Fusion]

We just booted 10 players and are replacing them with draftees+DFA/Rookies.

We also have 16 out of contract next season.

We'll have no issue stumping up the money for TDK

Hopefully we can sign him up early on in the season.

 

[Benaly28]

We just booted 10 players and are replacing them with draftees+DFA/Rookies.

We also have 16 out of contract next season.

We'll have no issue stumping up the money for TDK

It’s how much we’re going to pay him and not unbalance the rest of the list,not that easy.


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[Blue_Fusion]

It’s how much we’re going to pay him and not unbalance the rest of the list,not that easy.


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He'll just have to accept that staying will result in not earning as much.

Leave and go to St Kilda for more coin and be part of a basket case.

Cats won't be offering much more than us, if anything.

 

[Michael Jezz]

What if there isn’t a good one available?

Make sure we recruit Ethan Phillips & wait till next year.

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

And if Freo supporters didn't hate us enough already in the most one way rivalry in the history of the AFL....

Dunno..the stains supporters are almost there with them

 

[Michael Jezz]

I remember seeing people freaking out on here before the Sydney game because Cottrell was out injured. He was a key piece of the team that made a prelim 13 months ago

Cottrel is the best kick into fwd 50 at Carlton

 

[sosos]

Cottrel is the best kick into fwd 50 at Carlton

Charlie?

 

[Wickzki]

Funny little tidbit on the Hawks board

Andrew Brayshaw coming back home next year as a FA and we're supposedly the frontrunner

Cripps
Walsh
Brayshaw
Cerra
FOS/Draper/Lalor/Smith
Hewett

Where would that midfield rank across the league?

Along with the number of OOC players we have next year his being an RFA target would go some way to explaining why we showed minimal interest in Dan Houston - to the point where we really just tried to keep Collingwood honest in negotiations as best we could.

Different positions, certainly, but similar cap money if not more in Brayshaw.

If so, in a way it's genius. With Collingwood tying up so much money in Perryman and Houston it would take away a potential buyer from that market (that's if a Brayshaw would ever consider Collingwood after what happened to Angus).

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

It’s how much we’re going to pay him and not unbalance the rest of the list,not that easy.


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Even if we don't want to offer him overs, we can still force a trade by offering the needed amount and making the club interested deal picks for him

 

[Big Delut]

Huh? Melbourne traded up for pick 3 and picked Luke Jackson who was instrumental in a premiership season in only his second season. Daicos was instrumental in Collingwood's last flag and Ashcroft won a norm not long after he was drafted (both were gifted to their respective clubs, but same principal applies).

Clearly, like these premiership winning teams before them, Carlton have identified a player at pick 3 who can help us win a GF, and help us stay contenders for the future. Young, talented kids can and had just as big of an impact as the star trade.

Traded up? Melbourne finished 17th that year

 

[BlueTongue]

Just hang around here BT

Come November 20 you’ll be a list management and recruiting expert

Yeah I've had my stints haha. Trade period got the blood pumping but I'm all Zen again now.
For now.

 

[Coona Blues]

Along with the number of OOC players we have next year his being an RFA target would go some way to explaining why we showed minimal interest in Dan Houston - to the point where we really just tried to keep Collingwood honest in negotiations as best we could.

Different positions, certainly, but similar cap money if not more in Brayshaw.

If so, in a way it's genius. With Collingwood tying up so much money in Perryman and Houston it would take away a potential buyer from that market (that's if a Brayshaw would ever consider Collingwood after what happened to Angus).

If there is any fire with this smoke, the romantic in me would love to unite the brothers and find a role for brother Angus to sweeten the pot.

 

[Blue and Silver]

Cottrel is the best kick into fwd 50 at Carlton

I think the best kicks into 50 come from Orazio.

It is about once every 3 games though

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[marcmurphy3]

If we are going for a FA mid would much rather LDU then Brayshaw.

 

[JustaBattler]

You really think bringing in houston would be the tipping point in winning a premiership?

I think a developed player (good enough to be AA 2 X) with an elite kicking capability would be a much bigger factor in winning a premiership than any draftee - but that wasn't the real point I was making anyway.

Houston and Nick Daicos are going to be a huge positive for Collingwood - now they have two genuine elite field kicks to go coast to coast with...Carlton doesn't have ONE from defense to forward fifty - not one - closest thing to a decent kick is Newman who is almost retired and McGovern who is always half injured.

People wnt speed through teh arcs - I would settle for a couple of decent kicks in teh side between the arcs...

 

[HereComesJuddy]

I think a developed player (good enough to be AA 2 X) with an elite kicking capability would be a much bigger factor in winning a premiership than any draftee - but that wasn't the real point I was making anyway.

Houston and Nick Daicos are going to be a huge positive for Collingwood - now they have two genuine elite field kicks to go coast to coast with...Carlton doesn't have ONE from defense to forward fifty - not one - closest thing to a decent kick is Newman who is almost retired and McGovern who is always half injured.

People wnt speed through teh arcs - I would settle for a couple of decent kicks in teh side between the arcs...

Don’t think we could afford Houston.

We also shed some contracts that will put us in a great position this coming season. If Young too had of been taken by another club, then maybe Houston would have been in play. I believe that’s what we were holding out for and why Houston really thought he was a chance to get to us. As soon as it was clear there were no takers for Young, the door was shut.

We all want players to improve our club and Houston was just that. But we still need to work within the salary cap. There’s a huge difference between us and the Pies with big money earners. They definitely had more room in their cap and will have much more at the end of 2025 with several players to retire. While we will want to lock away TDK which will set us back plenty

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Think I could almost guarantee that Cotts in particular has signed a very basic contract for the sake of longevity. We clearly want to offset some of our mammoth contracts with a few budget ones. No doubt there would be a decent match payments component when he is playing in the ones, but I suspect if he slips to the twos he will be on a relative pittance. After injury affected seasons, likely similar for Durds.

I am, however a bit over the Durds vitriole. His best is very good and it is becoming apparent our medical team was not perhaps what it needed to be. Fix that bloody shoulder and many will be surprised.

Agree re the Durds bashing.

Only need to look back on the round 23 game day thread to read how excited people were with Durdin and how much he changed our forward half dynamic against the Eagles. He got injured halfway through the game but still managed to rack up 14 disposals (6 were contested), 6 score involvements, 1 goal, 2 tackles and 5 inside 50s. Nothing wrong with those figures if you ask me.

The kid has been injured a lot but at 22 years of age, he has time on his side.

 

[teknodeejay]

Not sure Owies or Motlop offered much better on that front in 2024

Motlop had a rough year. Injuries, fitness and trying to then compensate for that by not playing a more natural game of his - seen that time and time before with players who aren’t as ready as they should be.
I believe the lad has shown enough prior to be able to a very good player. Hope he gets a good pre season and fit start to the season to show what he’s capable of.

 

[BlueTongue]

And if Freo supporters didn't hate us enough already in the most one way rivalry in the history of the AFL....

That’s because you have to be relevant to be hated…