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I will truncate this one for everyone. Gary Rohan is shit and has always been shit. There, someone had to say it.
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Is Sam Durdin better than all the VFL listed defenders? Is he better than all the SANFL and WAFL defenders?
If the answer is no and it is no, then we can do better.
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Scoring more goals than someone doesn’t make you better though, Miers averaged over 20 possessions per game this year.
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2021 - played every gameNo he doesnt. Pinging his hammy as our fitness regime went to shit is a far more relevant connection than reaching for Ramadan.
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There is no proof of such a connection either
Injury rates in professional soccer players during Ramadan - PubMed
Many of the socio-cultural lifestyle and dietary changes that take place during Ramadan may affect the risk of injury in athletes, but little evidence is available. The aim of the present study was to examine the effects over two consecutive years of the holy month of Ramadan on injury rates in...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
And 2024 research:
2022 - missed one game - during Ramadan
2023 - missed one game - day after Ramadan ended
2024 - missed six matches. 5 of those came after hamstring injury incurred a few days after Ramadan ended.
Don't deny the science/research posted above. But for this particular player there does seem to be a correlation in recent years. Correlation does not imply causation, and this is certainly not beyond the bounds of coincidence. But you'd think at the very least this should be looked at in preparation for the Ramadan period in 2025. Need to make sure we're following best practice.
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If his prep isn't right then it's prep based. Ample evidence under a good fitness regime this player is fine. Ample evidence that globally in high soft tissue occurrence sports that it is a non factor in soft tissue injury rates.
Jimmae
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He's 30 now so it's a consideration over the next 3 years, definitely, but yeah the knock on him - and why he wasn't drafted until he was 20 - was his aerobic base.
Jimmae
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I would describe it as an easily managed factor, most of the time. 13-14 hour days that time of the year for us impacts as well.
Do you think not being able to eat during the day could impact training/recovery and put a strain on his body?No he doesnt. Pinging his hammy as our fitness regime went to shit is a far more relevant connection than reaching for Ramadan.
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There is no proof of such a connection either
Injury rates in professional soccer players during Ramadan - PubMed
Many of the socio-cultural lifestyle and dietary changes that take place during Ramadan may affect the risk of injury in athletes, but little evidence is available. The aim of the present study was to examine the effects over two consecutive years of the holy month of Ramadan on injury rates in...
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Owies, like many players, has limitations, but he doesn't stop trying
Wish a few more of out talented players had his work ethic
Wish a few more of out talented players had his work ethic
That's a bit harsh...
*On our small forwards because Rohan is better than at least 3 of them...
Red Light Therapy, get him in the sauna and under bulbs.
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Coleman -> Coleman -> third placed in Coleman while playing hurt for half the season?
I agree with others, he needs to use his big endurance base to get up the ground more and become a weapon for us on transition. But full time wing would be a massive misuse of a guy who, if fit, can genuinely kick 80+ goals in a season.
If there’s so many good options then why have they not been offered the opportunity?
Given how deeply we culled, reckon the club might have an idea about what they are doing
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Not with the amount of ball directed Owies way, no.
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They are better than ours, no argument.
Disagree re: structure though, we could assemble the best smalls in the comp & it won't change a thing if we continue to avoid kicking to them.
The problem with our existing setup is that Charlie v 2, isn't creating much crumbing opportunity & a lack of movement means the heart of our attacking 50 gets clogged up, minimising opportunities for players to attack this space.
While there's little argument that we could do with more talent through our small/medium forwards, there are obvious systemic issues with how we attack too.
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Geelongs smalls are the ones who kick it to one another. They get up the ground and find more of the ball than our slow one dimensional smalls ever have.
Miers almost plays as a midfielder who pushes forward such is his running power and ability to find the ball
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We always hope the club know what they are doing, but all clubs, every year make strange list management decisions and imo we have made a few. Currently Durdin isn’t on the list, so i hope we have our eye on someone.
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I might be a little harsh but I see that as his level.
With Young as mature backup, I'd hope the club is looking at someone to develop.
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I think the Sam Durdin bit can be wrapped up easily.
People don't like a player potted on the way out - hence posters trying to find anything to defend him for on ability. But contrastingly, if we didnt have Sam Durdin on our books and posters not bringing bias....and Carlton said in 2025 we are going after a player who played only two games in two-three years and who was previously injured non stop and has never delivered anything in 10 years of footy, we would scream the house down.
Unlucky Sam, but bye. No malice intended.
People don't like a player potted on the way out - hence posters trying to find anything to defend him for on ability. But contrastingly, if we didnt have Sam Durdin on our books and posters not bringing bias....and Carlton said in 2025 we are going after a player who played only two games in two-three years and who was previously injured non stop and has never delivered anything in 10 years of footy, we would scream the house down.
Unlucky Sam, but bye. No malice intended.
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THe lack of other players having Owies work ethic is just misguided baloney.
Carlton list try bloody hard. They are giving their all for a broken system that ends up seeing them waver when it doesnt work. The confidence fades and things fall apart as the opposition see their system/movement rewarded.
The only thing we need to see is transition that works fairly evenly vs an opposition side. Right now we have to kill ourselves so that grind week in week out kills us at some point.
Carlton list try bloody hard. They are giving their all for a broken system that ends up seeing them waver when it doesnt work. The confidence fades and things fall apart as the opposition see their system/movement rewarded.
The only thing we need to see is transition that works fairly evenly vs an opposition side. Right now we have to kill ourselves so that grind week in week out kills us at some point.
I get your sentiment, it’s true they all try but Owies was an undersized elite basketballer who transitioned to footballer.
His work ethic is off the charts, everyone try’s but some work a whole lot harder than others.
To be a top level athlete in 2 unrelated sports is extraordinary, 100% he’s the type of “smart ass” we all know, who’s good at everything (wouldn’t surprise me if he’s a single figure handicap golfer).
But to get to the levels he has achieved takes a mountain of work, it’s fair to say someone “try’s harder” than others when that’s exactly what they have done.
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I’ve always thought the next trend AFL will follow is resting players strategically through the season.
Players should be given a break here and there and during or after Ramadan could be a good place to start for Saad
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If they keep trying to push teams to play more games instead of giving the AFLW fixturing the opportunity, you might be right, but I'll start screaming about it.
The sooner we get to a 21-team league and just play 20 games, the better. Build out SA and WA after that.
I’d like to see the lists expanded, I think the talent pool is deep enough.
If u expanded the lists it would give more opportunity to rest players.
Would lesson the impact of expansion clubs if there was greater opportunity to develop players.
Would be nice if they stopped ****ing around with the shit AFLW fixture, they are doing a great job of ballsing up that competition atm
