Training 2025 Pre-Season

[1970crow]

Not that great a tackle - Dawson was still able to get the disposal away

Dawson missed a much better option by choosing to continue going forward.

 

[Samcro24]

Do you doubt his intensity, commitment and willingness to have a go once he crosses the white line?
Coasting because Strachan is injured pure bs.

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He does. He’s not the ROB of 20/21 that used to clunk marks all the time.

In 22 he got dropped, returned vs geelong. 28 touches 5 marks 47 hit outs.

In the (50 odd) games since he hasn’t been over 20 touches, and has only got the same number of hitouts and marks or better on a handful of occasions.

He plays like his spot isn’t under threat. Because it isn’t really.

 

[Eric The Red]

The comparison is in terms of him growing into his tall body and be ready to go, not whether he’s going to be as good as either Fyfe or Bont. If he’s going to be an A grade mid, then there’s no reason that his progression shouldn’t align with Bont, noting he’s unlikely to be as good.

Well, my initial post was simply a response to Scorpus who compared Curtin to Fyfe, quoted Fyfe‘s 2nd year stats and then suggested that unless Curtin matches those stats in year 2 he is not going to be, or likely to be, elite. I fundamentally disagree with that logic. It over simplifies possible performance and career progression and player-to-player variances. Not worth arguing further me thinks. Over and out.

 

[119others]

And all the members of the other clubs as well.

As a Lions member I managed to get 2 complimentary tix for the Norwood game. Not complaining at all but surprised they are freebies

 

[119others]

Peatlings a versatile player, who’s breaking out around the same age Dawson did at SYD

Ideally Peatling ends up the best of the 3 recruits. He certainly has the potential and that’s a massive win for the team if so

 

[119others]

I got 10 tickets to crows
Plus a ticket to all Adelaide Oval games for my SMA Father in LAw.

No problems at all except once it timed out when payment was going through. I checked and the ticket was there and payment was charged. so all good.

Have to go through it again tomorrow. My wife wants to go to the Port, Collingwood and Bulldogs games. I told her Bulldogs would probably sell out today as its at Norwood oval.

I only booked Bullies vs Lions at 7pm tonight and no issues (and no delays!)

 

[119others]

You do get it about 260k tickets are being sold.

Give me one other event doing the same over two days in Australia - a large % of tickets will be bought today.

Doesn’t Melbourne Grand Prix 4 day event all go on sale at ONE time? 300k+ tickets sold

Both major ticketing agencies are a joke really. For the fees they charge - and the profits they make - things just haven’t improved for decades.

 

[FR0GGY]

Heard news on radio people lining up at Ticketek. I thought it was online only.

The same people are lining up at service SA tomorrow, to pay their rego.

 

[119others]

Well, my initial post was simply a response to Scorpus who compared Curtin to Fyfe, quoted Fyfe‘s 2nd year stats and then suggested that unless Curtin matches those stats in year 2 he is not going to be, or likely to be, elite. I fundamentally disagree with that logic. It over simplifies possible performance and career progression and player-to-player variances. Not worth arguing further me thinks. Over and out.

Fyfe is a dual Brownlow Medalist, it’s not a sensible or reasonable comparison or benchmark.

 

[FR0GGY]

Jumped on straight away with 3 barcodes, 4000th odd in the queue on my phone 12000th odd on my computer.
got through in about 17 minutes on my phone, selected 2 adults and a child, would only let me have 1 adult and child in section 204.
Paid, went back on again with the other barcode and got straight in, no waiting????

 

[Ciao Giacomo]

What a ****ing shit show. Error on seat selection, timeout on payment, didn't go through, back of the queue.

I feel your pain. The same happened to me last year.

This year I outsourced the ticket buying to a very IT literate friend…….. who was also timed out and after more than 2 hours we finally got seats in the forward pocket. Hopefully it doesn’t rain.

 

[AFC979810]

It’s the closest we’re going to get in terms of progression of tall midfielders. A young skinny Bont, still with growth to come.

No its not.

Generally speaking - the bigger the body the longer the player is going to take.

Curtin was drafted at 197cm and 95kg. To my knowledge there hasn't been a midfielder drafted that is that size.

His size and weight is closest to Jordan Butts on our list. The dude is massive. To expect him to dominate in the midfield in his second season is ridiculous.

 

[AFC979810]

The comparison is in terms of him growing into his tall body and be ready to go, not whether he’s going to be as good as either Fyfe or Bont. If he’s going to be an A grade mid, then there’s no reason that his progression shouldn’t align with Bont, noting he’s unlikely to be as good.

He is bloody 95kg. There is abolsutely no reason his progression SHOULD align with Bont.

 

[adelaidecrows]

What about the Bont then? 194cm played 16 games in year 1 averaging 16 disposals and then 21 in year 2 averaging 21 disposals with 5 clearances. Bont was born late November too, so only 18 years and a 4 months old when his first season started. Curtin born early March, so about 8 months older. Fyfe may not have been a good comparison, but Bont is.

Curtin could be anything. His career will either go one or two ways. 1. The club as well as Curtin see him as a C Cornes style CHB CHF and they bulk him up or 2. they see him as a potential tall big bodied midfielder and get his running game going by building his tank in preseason. Its going to take 2 to 3 of these pre seasons to build his tank to full time midfielder. But he will float between wing and the flanks in the mean time with pinch hitting roles.

Based on what I saw in 2024, it certainly looks like the club and Nicks have eyes on Curtin roaming through the middle, using his size and power. Yes his debute games in defence were ordinary but thats because he really isnt a defender, when moved to running positions his game progressed and certainly showed potential.

 

[adelaidecrows]

No its not.

Generally speaking - the bigger the body the longer the player is going to take.

Curtin was drafted at 197cm and 95kg. To my knowledge there hasn't been a midfielder drafted that is that size.

His size and weight is closest to Jordan Butts on our list. The dude is massive. To expect him to dominate in the midfield in his second season is ridiculous.

If he is going to play midfield he will need several preseasons to build his fitness to a level to play midfield. Even the elite mids of the competition took two seasons to become full time mids. Obviously some few exceptions but it would be bonkers to expect Curtin to have fitness to walk in to our midfield at this stage.

 

[Chances Are]

Curtin is a forward IMO.

 

[AFC979810]

If he is going to play midfield he will need several preseasons to build his fitness to a level to play midfield. Even the elite mids of the competition took two seasons to become full time mids. Obviously some few exceptions but it would be bonkers to expect Curtin to have fitness to walk in to our midfield at this stage.

Disagree.

Plenty of elite big bodied midfielders became full time mids in their first or 2nd season. Bont, Fyfe, Cripps, Reid, Petracca all did it.

I think Curtin is a different type of player than these pure midfielders. He is more of a modern day Pavlich / Cornes.

Success for Curtin in 2025 is to play between 16-22 IMO. All about getting him experience. We shouldn't really be expecting too much until 2027 IMO.

It speaks more to the evolution of the athlete that plays AFL. In 1993 our All Australian Ruckman was 196cm and 30 years later we are talking midfielders that are 197cm at 18 years of age.

 

[baldandbroke]

He does. He’s not the ROB of 20/21 that used to clunk marks all the time.

In 22 he got dropped, returned vs geelong. 28 touches 5 marks 47 hit outs.

In the (50 odd) games since he hasn’t been over 20 touches, and has only got the same number of hitouts and marks or better on a handful of occasions.

He plays like his spot isn’t under threat. Because it isn’t really.

Yes, but how was his shape?

 

[1970crow]

Well, my initial post was simply a response to Scorpus who compared Curtin to Fyfe, quoted Fyfe‘s 2nd year stats and then suggested that unless Curtin matches those stats in year 2 he is not going to be, or likely to be, elite. I fundamentally disagree with that logic. It over simplifies possible performance and career progression and player-to-player variances. Not worth arguing further me thinks. Over and out.

It’s not an argument, I’m just proposing a better comparison than Fyfe. At least in my opinion. There’s not really anyone else to compare to, if he ends up being a 197cm mid, he’ll be the first.

 

[Mutineer]

It’s not an argument, I’m just proposing a better comparison than Fyfe. At least in my opinion. There’s not really anyone else to compare to, if he ends up being a 197cm mid, he’ll be the first.

Connor Nash

 

[1970crow]

No its not.

Generally speaking - the bigger the body the longer the player is going to take.

Curtin was drafted at 197cm and 95kg. To my knowledge there hasn't been a midfielder drafted that is that size.

His size and weight is closest to Jordan Butts on our list. The dude is massive. To expect him to dominate in the midfield in his second season is ridiculous.

Sure, but nobody looked at the way Butts moved around and saw a stoppage midfielder. We might have to throw the age old tropes like ‘big guys take time’ out the window. How much of that is due to building the strength required to compete directly against opposition? If he’s going to be a mid, then my money is on his progression being aligned more with mids not rucks/KPP players. Notwithstanding his pure greatness, Bont is the closest player in living memory that matches both physical aspect and potential playing style. Maybe Lukuscious if you’re not seeing someone who isn’t destined for inside midfield rotations. Westhoff perhaps too.

 

[1970crow]

He is bloody 95kg. There is abolsutely no reason his progression SHOULD align with Bont.

That just sounds like he’s not a gangly kid, if he was 85kg I’d agree. If he’s going to be a stoppage rotation mid, then his pathway should align more with Bont than key position gorillas. That’s just how it is.

 

[skam85]

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Big Wooz with the Hattrick!

why are the batsmen swearing so much?

 

[119others]

Curtin is a forward IMO.

he certainly looked best there last year but admittedly didn't do that much in all honesty up forward - just better than anything else eg did he even take a lead up mark?

thing is - has he ever played forward in his junior career? i thought it was KPD and/or on ball but agree he could be handy around goals esp if he can clunk some marks with his size

 

[WaynesWorld19]

he certainly looked best there last year but admittedly didn't do that much in all honesty up forward - just better than anything else eg did he even take a lead up mark?

thing is - has he ever played forward in his junior career? i thought it was KPD and/or on ball but agree he could be handy around goals esp if he can clunk some marks with his size

It was this board that levelled Curtin a KPD

I agree Curtin had limited impact, but there were glimpses of some outstanding plays & his footy IQ

That WB game was great viewing if you want to see the upside of Curtin