Player Watch #21 Errol Gulden - born to play: 2024 All Australian

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You CANNOT be serious! Wankos play like Neale? The biggest receiver since Peter Daicos? BAHAHAHAHA!
Don't know if you are talking about the same Nick Daicos who puts the Pies on his back consistently and says "let's go boys, follow me". Neale did the same yesterday with a busted foot.

Future captain material Daicos, like Bont. I'd happily have both at the Swans.
 
Don't know if you are talking about the same Nick Daicos who puts the Pies on his back consistently and says "let's go boys, follow me". Neale did the same yesterday with a busted foot.

Future captain material Daicos, like Bont. I'd happily have both at the Swans.
I couldn't believe it mate , would love any of them , it's just jealousy
 
And you do
Give it a rest…you’re not the only one who’s played the game….the whole ‘you don’t understand the game’ tripe is getting really boring.

For what its worth - I reckon you can count Wankos’s hard-ball gets on one hand….for the SEASON. Yes, he’s skillful, yes he read’s the play exceptionally well - but he’s not fit to tie Neale’s, Parker’s , Reid’s, Joey’s or Cripps bootlaces when it comes to getting his own kicks.
 
Give it a rest…you’re not the only one who’s played the game.

For what its worth I reckon you can count Wankos’s hard-ball gets on one hand….for the SEASON. Yes, he’s skillful, yes he read’s the play exceptionally well - but he’s not fit to tie Neale’s, Parker’s or Joey’s bootlaces when it comes to getting his own kicks.
I love Parker, but I will be honest, I'd trade Parker at his peak for Nick Daicos 😂
 
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I love Parker, but I will be honest, I'd trade Parker at his peak for Nick Daicos 😂


No one would trade any version of Daicos for peak Luke Parker not even close to as good
 
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As Jono Brown says in the video - you could have done a bunch of these for Gulden.
Distinctly remember him and Hayward having a blow up on the wing in front of me in Q1 about a similar handover.

A lot of pointing from this young fella on Saturday. Much less running.

I think there's a maturity piece that will come, he wants to lead but it seems confused with just barking at team mates for what "they didn't do"
 

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If I wanted a running half back, so would I, but if I wanted someone in the middle…Nick would be at home eating Nonna’s spanakopita.
The fact you don't rate Nick Daicos is concerning. But to get back on topic, right now I'd pick him over Errol Gulden. Why? Because he stood up last year in the Grand Final to edge the Pies to the premiership cup.

Errol, he needs to step up when it matters most. (Yes, he wasn't the only passenger)
 
Footy fans seem silly when they pick on Daicos. I don't know if he's the best player in the comp but it's pointless dumping on anyone good enough to be in that conversation. We just look jealous and obsessed.

Re Gulden, I think any talk of his leadership, or perceived lack thereof, is a bit unfair at this still-very-early stage. What I will say is that there's a slightly-concerning trend unfolding of leaders at our club that are 'lads.'

Sir Dane's always been a quirky cat. Mills is one of the larrikins of the club. Papley was stand-in captain this year a few times. And Gulden, with his speed-dealers and smart-arsey speeches and treating events like the All Australian presentation and the grand final parade like he couldn't give a shite, seems to be cut from the same cloth.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being this type of individual, but how well it translates to being taken seriously as a leader and a captain... I don't know.

Recent premiership captains like Lachie Neale, Joel Selwood, Max Gawn, Trent Cotchin... all husbands and fathers. Not that one can't be a great leader and role model without being married or having children, but having those things generally suggests a certain level of maturity and sensibility one has in life, and it's a maturity and sensibility that I don't think some of our leaders have shown yet.
 
Footy fans seem silly when they pick on Daicos. I don't know if he's the best player in the comp but it's pointless dumping on anyone good enough to be in that conversation. We just look jealous and obsessed.

Re Gulden, I think any talk of his leadership, or perceived lack thereof, is a bit unfair at this still-very-early stage. What I will say is that there's a slightly-concerning trend unfolding of leaders at our club that are 'lads.'

Sir Dane's always been a quirky cat. Mills is one of the larrikins of the club. Papley was stand-in captain this year a few times. And Gulden, with his speed-dealers and smart-arsey speeches and treating events like the All Australian presentation and the grand final parade like he couldn't give a shite, seems to be cut from the same cloth.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being this type of individual, but how well it translates to being taken seriously as a leader and a captain... I don't know.

Recent premiership captains like Lachie Neale, Joel Selwood, Max Gawn, Trent Cotchin... all husbands and fathers. Not that one can't be a great leader and role model without being married or having children, but having those things generally suggests a certain level of maturity and sensibility one has in life, and it's a maturity and sensibility that I don't think some of our leaders have shown yet.


Good observation and Rowbottom comes to mind got me as what I want in a skipper, but also Heeney. I think he is the right amount of serious and leader these days. Even Lewis Melican is another, Robbie Fox if he could cement a spot.

I will back Mills in for now, keen to see how he goes solo.

The missing link with captaincy is what they do during the week that we don't see.

I love Errol but yeah this year I thought maybe he was playing through the expectations , he still had a good year, but 22 was clearly better in terms of effectiveness IMO
 
Some of the edits of Errol from the GF are not good viewing. I do have to remind myself that he’s playing his fourth year and is already our second or third best player with a big influence on the outcomes of the club’s matches.

The big thing for me is how often on the weekend he was trailing opponents or not going hard defensively when we have seen him run hard defensively throughout his four years at seniors level. It suggests to me that he was emotionally tired and in his head about what was transpiring on the field. Which to me seems a commonality amongst the players the last few years; when it’s going really bad the group can completely fall apart in a way that seems completely listless.

He isn’t ready for a leadership position yet imo. Neither is Blakey imo, although I think both are destined to be leaders at the club for good reason. Rowbottom is ready to step up and I’d say Hayward improved his leadership this year although we didn’t much see it on GF day.

Something that has made me feel better is the thought that in five years time Errol will only be 27 years old. He’s still got a lot of work to do and a lot of lessons to learn before he’s the finished product.
 
The fact you don't rate Nick Daicos is concerning. But to get back on topic, right now I'd pick him over Errol Gulden. Why? Because he stood up last year in the Grand Final to edge the Pies to the premiership cup.

Errol, he needs to step up when it matters most. (Yes, he wasn't the only passenger)
Putting aside Errol - I don’t rate Daicos because he’s a receiver.

Yes, he’s good at reading the play, inside and out, he’s a good kick and has excellent evasive skills,

BUT - unlike Heeney, forget about the contested ball, forget about contested marks, forget about defensive accountability and most of all forget about being a team motivator.

He’s a pop star who is given the ball on a plate, a LOT, to do ‘his thing’.

If Gulden or Heeney had one job, to run with the ball, without accountability, they’d be getting 40 a game also.
 
Putting aside Errol - I don’t rate Daicos because he’s a receiver.

Yes, he’s good at reading the play, inside and out, he’s a good kick and has excellent evasive skills,

BUT - unlike Heeney, forget about the contested ball, forget about contested marks, forget about defensive accountability and most of all forget about being a team motivator.

He’s a pop star who is given the ball on a plate, a LOT, to do ‘his thing’.

If Gulden or Heeney had one job, to run with the ball, without accountability, they’d be getting 40 a game also.
I think people seem to forget that Daicos has only been in the system for 3 years. He has a lot more to develop. If, in your words, he's good at reading the play, inside and out, he's a good kick and has excellent evasive skills is what you get from a 21 year old then I don't understand how anybody in their right mind will not rate him.
 
Putting aside Errol - I don’t rate Daicos because he’s a receiver.

Yes, he’s good at reading the play, inside and out, he’s a good kick and has excellent evasive skills,

BUT - unlike Heeney, forget about the contested ball, forget about contested marks, forget about defensive accountability and most of all forget about being a team motivator.

He’s a pop star who is given the ball on a plate, a LOT, to do ‘his thing’.

If Gulden or Heeney had one job, to run with the ball, without accountability, they’d be getting 40 a game also.

Daicos was 3rd in the league for clearances and 6th in the league for contested ball.

And he has played well in a Grand Final and won a flag.

Aside from the contested marking, everything you say about Daicos is complete nonsense.
 

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Player Watch #21 Errol Gulden - born to play: 2024 All Australian

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