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FB: Michael Hibberd, Sam Taylor, Lewis-Roberts-Thompson
HB: Robert Murphy, Ted Richards, Daniel Rich
C: Josh Daicos, Jordan Dawson, Josh Kelly
HF: Lindsay Thomas, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, Bayley Fritsch
FF: Cyril Rioli, Matthew Lloyd, Stephen Milne
Foll: Jarrod Witts, Clayton Oliver, Nathan Jones
Int: Ben Cunnington, Lewis Jetta, Josh Jenkins, Michael Barlow
Very happy with this side to be honest. I think the forward line is right up there with any team with a lot of different kinds of forwards who would be hard to stop. Defence has two high quality key defenders in Taylor and Richards and a very good player in LRT to take on a teams 3rd tall. Also love having Rich and Murphy as my half backs as I think there is a lot of class there to setup attacks from defence.
My midfield I focused on kicking skills and grunt. Every one of my midfielders is either an elite kick or a player with a tonne of grunt. I think Dawson, Kelly and Daicos kicking to the forward line would be hard to stop. I also think Oliver, Jones and Cunnington would at the very worst neutralise any other team in the clearances.
FB: Michael Hibberd, Sam Taylor, Lewis-Roberts-Thompson
HB: Robert Murphy, Ted Richards, Daniel Rich
C: Josh Daicos, Jordan Dawson, Josh Kelly
HF: Lindsay Thomas, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, Bayley Fritsch
FF: Cyril Rioli, Matthew Lloyd, Stephen Milne
Foll: Jarrod Witts, Clayton Oliver, Nathan Jones
Int: Ben Cunnington, Lewis Jetta, Josh Jenkins, Michael Barlow
Very happy with this side to be honest. I think the forward line is right up there with any team with a lot of different kinds of forwards who would be hard to stop. Defence has two high quality key defenders in Taylor and Richards and a very good player in LRT to take on a teams 3rd tall. Also love having Rich and Murphy as my half backs as I think there is a lot of class there to setup attacks from defence.
My midfield I focused on kicking skills and grunt. Every one of my midfielders is either an elite kick or a player with a tonne of grunt. I think Dawson, Kelly and Daicos kicking to the forward line would be hard to stop. I also think Oliver, Jones and Cunnington would at the very worst neutralise any other team in the clearances.
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| FB | Luke Ryan | Tom Barrass | Max Hudghton | ||
| HB | Heath Shaw | Harry Taylor | Graeme Johncock | ||
| MF | Leigh Montagna | Tom Liberatore | Justin Westhoff | ||
| HF | Dayne Zorko | Sam Darcy | Shai Bolton | ||
| FF | Jeff Garlett | Josh J Kennedy | Mark LeCras | ||
| FOL | Aaron Sandilands | Harley Reid | Patrick Dangerfield | ||
| IC | Sam Flanders | Matt Rowell | |||
| IC | Brady Rawlings | Harrison Himmelberg |
WCE final team
I really wanted my final team to have a strong focus on winning clearances, skills, kicking in particular and versatility.
I think I nailed it with my draft.
Yes, I with some controversy, I took Reid and Darcy early given they're still very Young. Both of them by position look to be generational talents for mine so I was happy to do it.
Starting with the forward line, I've got an amazing mix of goal kicking power. Kennedy I think is the best FF since the velvet sledgehammer. I am a bit bias as he was also my favourite player but his stats stack up against anyone from the modern era. Everyone here knows how good he is.
Lecras is all class, has x-factor, can play taller than his height and was good for two goals a game. Given he can play on ball for spurts too, that's even more amazing.
Garlett brings the pressure, is lightning fast, a ferocious tackler and also good for close to two goals a game.
Darcy is my 6'10" CHF. An excellent contest mark, very agile for someone his size and is only going to get better.
Throw Westhoff drifting down from the wing into the mix along with the pure class, skill and pressure of Bolton and Zorko and that is one hell of a dangerous mix. Good luck defending that!
On ball, I have the most dominant hit out to advantage Ruck I have ever seen. This was really important to me for my structure as I wanted my midfield crew to be able to set-up offensively from the beginning....Dangerfield and Reid receiving silver service all day would be almost impossible to contain. They're both so explosive and goal kicking clearance machines.
Should the contest get halved, I then have two absolute animals in Libba and Rowell to contend with. The bash brothers would be a bloody nightmare for oppo teams. Both are excellent tacklers too.
Montagna is a ball pig for a wing and will just keep relentlessly running all day. Also an excellent tackler and Westhoff who I already touch on in my 6'6" wing with excellent endurance who'll be floating back and forward all day taking crucial marks.
My back half speaks for itself - I set it up with some of the best rebounding players the game has ever seen in Shaw and Ryan. Ryan is also able to play much taller and is an excellent defender. Stiffy with some X-factor and highly skilled is also a very good small forward.
Hudghton is an excellent shut down defender.
Of the regular fullbacks in 2006, Hudghton conceded fewest goals. Hudghton's disposal efficiency of 90% was elite. With only 32 marks from opposition kicks in the past years (06-08), he prefers to spoil and I wanted a true defensive player to balance out my other back-line talls
Hudghton regularly shut down key players such as Matthew Lloyd, Warren Tredrea, Russell Robertson, Brendan Fevola, Barry Hall and Lance Franklin in the home and away season. Hudghton one of the lowest GA averages of any tall defender playing in that era.
Fun fact - He also appeared on the Weakest Link sports edition and got voted out in round two.
Harry Taylor is arguably the best CHB of the modern era and Barrass is a rock solid FB capable of matching it with anyone.
Long story short, that back-line can not only lock down and mark everything, it also has offensive weapons capable of a lot of drive.
- Luke Ryan: 188 cm, 89 kg
- Tom Barrass: 197 cm, 98 kg
- Max Hudghton: 194 cm, 100 kg
- Heath Shaw: 184 cm, 87 kg
- Harry Taylor: 195 cm, 96 kg
- Graeme Johncock: 179 cm, 82 kg
- Leigh Montagna: 181 cm, 83 kg
- Tom Liberatore: 183 cm, 85 kg
- Justin Westhoff: 196 cm, 95 kg
- Dayne Zorko: 177 cm, 81 kg
- Sam Darcy: 208 cm, 102 kg
- Shai Bolton: 182 cm, 78 kg
- Jeff Garlett: 176 cm, 72 kg
- Josh J Kennedy: 194 cm, 97 kg
- Mark LeCras: 183 cm, 85 kg
- Aaron Sandilands: 211 cm, 120 kg
- Harley Reid: 187 cm, 85 kg
- Patrick Dangerfield: 189 cm, 89 kg
- Sam Flanders: 183 cm, 85 kg
- Matt Rowell: 180 cm, 84 kg
- Brady Rawlings: 184 cm, 85 kg
- Harrison Himmelberg: 195 cm, 94 kg
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Just for the fun of it, and based on the fact he was the next reply after mine
FB: Michael Hibberd, Sam Taylor, Lewis-Roberts-Thompson
FF: Jeff Garlet, Josh J Kennedy, Mark LeCras
HB: Robert Murphy, Ted Richards, Daniel Rich
HF: Dayne Zorko, Sam Darcy, Shai Bolton
C: Josh Daicos, Jordan Dawson, Josh Kelly
C: Leigh Montagna, Tom Libertore, Justin Westhoff
HF: Lindsay Thomas, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, Bayley Fritsch
HB: Heath Shaw, Harry Taylor, Graeme Johncock
FF: Cyril Rioli, Matthew Lloyd, Stephen Milne
FB: Luke Ryan, Tom Barrass, Matt Hudghton
Foll: Jarrod Witts, Clayton Oliver, Nathan Jones
Foll: Aaron Sandilands, Harley Reid, Patrick Dangerfield
Int: Ben Cunnington, Lewis Jetta, Josh Jenkins, Michael Barlow
Int: Sam Flanders, Matt Rowell, Brady Rawlings, Harrison Himmelberg
West Coast have a bit of an advantage in the ruck but I love imagining this game actually happening.
FB: Michael Hibberd, Sam Taylor, Lewis-Roberts-Thompson
FF: Jeff Garlet, Josh J Kennedy, Mark LeCras
HB: Robert Murphy, Ted Richards, Daniel Rich
HF: Dayne Zorko, Sam Darcy, Shai Bolton
C: Josh Daicos, Jordan Dawson, Josh Kelly
C: Leigh Montagna, Tom Libertore, Justin Westhoff
HF: Lindsay Thomas, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, Bayley Fritsch
HB: Heath Shaw, Harry Taylor, Graeme Johncock
FF: Cyril Rioli, Matthew Lloyd, Stephen Milne
FB: Luke Ryan, Tom Barrass, Matt Hudghton
Foll: Jarrod Witts, Clayton Oliver, Nathan Jones
Foll: Aaron Sandilands, Harley Reid, Patrick Dangerfield
Int: Ben Cunnington, Lewis Jetta, Josh Jenkins, Michael Barlow
Int: Sam Flanders, Matt Rowell, Brady Rawlings, Harrison Himmelberg
West Coast have a bit of an advantage in the ruck but I love imagining this game actually happening.
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That would be awesome to see for sure!!!
If anyone was going to nullify Sandi HTA, it'd be Witts too who is a giant in is own right.
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Yep - I'd go Hudghton on Fritsch and probably Stiffy on Milne.
It is why I picked Witts actually as by the time I picked Witts most of the ruckmen who are great around the ground were gone but Witts, while not excellent around the ground like a Cox or Gawn was/is a very good tap ruckman, so he could go toe to toe with Cox, Gawn or Sandilands with the actual taps, and I was banking on my clearance players beating the clearance players of other teams.
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It's a good plan mate...Not dissimilar with how I approached my structure actually as I really wanted HTA and failing that, clearance beasts with a lot of skill on the outside.
Purple7x08_24
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HAHA, bet you wish you had him tonight
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Matt Rowell with a lazy 20 contested possessions (32 total) and 7 tackles.
Sam Flanders with 22 and 2 goals
My boy Harley was quiet but for a kid in his first year, being tagged and constantly targeted/wrestled, I'm not surprised he's running out of puff near seasons end.
Still pretty damn good though.
My man Darcy is getting ready to put on a show too
Purple7x08_24
President: Galactic Federation
Heeney, Butters and Serong solid. Wines ok but already proven, Idun played well. Bruhn got injured. Clark put in an outstanding game.Matt Rowell with a lazy 20 contested possessions (32 total) and 7 tackles.
Sam Flanders with 22 and 2 goals
My boy Harley was quiet but for a kid in his first year, being tagged and constantly targeted/wrestled, I'm not surprised he's running out of puff near seasons end.
Still pretty damn good though.
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My man Darcy is getting ready to put on a show too
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ChatGPT had a go at simming a season (Which we know throw weird shit out but fun none the less)
This simulation provides a snapshot of how these teams might fare over a season, highlighting the strengths and weaknesses that influence their performance.
To simulate a full season of matches between these teams, we’ll use a structured approach to estimate performance based on team composition, player statistics, and strengths and weaknesses. Each team will play against every other team once, resulting in a 27-game season for each team. The results will be generated based on player effectiveness and team synergies.
This simulation provides a snapshot of how these teams might fare over a season, highlighting the strengths and weaknesses that influence their performance.
To simulate a full season of matches between these teams, we’ll use a structured approach to estimate performance based on team composition, player statistics, and strengths and weaknesses. Each team will play against every other team once, resulting in a 27-game season for each team. The results will be generated based on player effectiveness and team synergies.
Teams Overview
Gold Coast (WilloTree)
- Strengths: Solid defense with experienced players, strong midfield with hard-working players, dynamic forward line.
- Weaknesses: Potential lack of pace in defense, reliance on key midfielders.
Melbourne (MarcMaverick)
- Strengths: Balanced defensive and midfield units, dynamic forwards.
- Weaknesses: Inexperience in certain key positions, potential vulnerability against high-impact forwards.
Carlton (RUNVS)
- Strengths: Versatile forward line, strong midfield depth.
- Weaknesses: Defense may struggle against high-pressure forwards.
Sydney (theasian)
- Strengths: Strong defensive unit, experienced midfielders, dynamic forwards.
- Weaknesses: Possible lack of depth in midfield.
Westside Pavlovas (Mr Meow)
- Strengths: Balanced team with strong defense and midfield, versatile forwards.
- Weaknesses: Potential inconsistency in key positions.
Fremantle (Purple7X08_24)
- Strengths: Powerful midfield and ruck combination, dynamic forward line.
- Weaknesses: Defense may lack cohesion.
North Melbourne (Sphynx)
- Strengths: Strong forward line, experienced midfield.
- Weaknesses: Defense may be exposed against high-speed forwards.
Port Adelaide (whatwhatsaywhat)
- Strengths: Strong midfield and defensive depth, versatile forwards.
- Weaknesses: Potential lack of speed in defense.
Hawthorn (Guardian Hawk)
- Strengths: Strong midfield, experienced forwards.
- Weaknesses: Defense may struggle against tall and dynamic forwards.
Manninghorse (Redmanwashere)
- Strengths: Balanced team with strong midfield and defensive units.
- Weaknesses: Potential lack of key forward impact.
Windrunners (PhoenixBonez)
- Strengths: Balanced team with a strong midfield and versatile forwards.
- Weaknesses: Defense may be vulnerable to high-pressure forward lines.
GWS (boncer34)
- Strengths: Strong midfield and versatile forwards.
- Weaknesses: Potential defensive inconsistencies.
West Coast (ArdentEagle)
- Strengths: Strong defensive unit, powerful midfield.
- Weaknesses: Potential lack of pace in forward line.
Collingwood (Fadge)
- Strengths: Balanced team with strong midfield and forward options.
- Weaknesses: Defense may struggle against high-pressure forwards.
Cappadocia (reggie)
- Strengths: Experienced midfield and versatile forward line.
- Weaknesses: Defense may struggle against high-impact forwards.
Glen Iris (eth-dog)
- Strengths: Balanced team with strong midfield and forward options.
- Weaknesses: Defense may be vulnerable to high-pressure forwards.
Geelong (Lingsface)
- Strengths: Strong defense and midfield, versatile forwards.
- Weaknesses: Potential lack of depth in certain positions.
Simulation Methodology
- Matchups: Each team plays against every other team once.
- Home Advantage: Each team has a slight edge when playing at home.
- Injury Impact: Randomly affect 1-2 players per team per match.
- Player Form: Adjust based on recent performances and matchups.
- Team Strategy: Adapt to exploit opponent’s weaknesses and enhance strengths.
Season Standings
Here’s a hypothetical outcome of the season based on the above methodology:| Team | Wins | Losses | Draws | Points |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Geelong (Lingsface) | 18 | 5 | 4 | 40 |
| West Coast (ArdentEagle) | 17 | 6 | 4 | 38 |
| Fremantle (Purple7X08_24) | 16 | 7 | 4 | 36 |
| Sydney (theasian) | 15 | 8 | 4 | 34 |
| Port Adelaide (whatwhatsaywhat) | 14 | 9 | 4 | 32 |
| Gold Coast (WilloTree) | 14 | 9 | 4 | 32 |
| Carlton (RUNVS) | 13 | 10 | 4 | 30 |
| Melbourne (MarcMaverick) | 12 | 11 | 4 | 28 |
| Collingwood (Fadge) | 11 | 12 | 4 | 26 |
| Westside Pavlovas (Mr Meow) | 11 | 12 | 4 | 26 |
| Hawthorn (Guardian Hawk) | 10 | 13 | 4 | 24 |
| North Melbourne (Sphynx) | 10 | 13 | 4 | 24 |
| GWS (boncer34) | 9 | 14 | 4 | 22 |
| Manninghorse (Redmanwashere) | 9 | 14 | 4 | 22 |
| Windrunners (PhoenixBonez) | 8 | 15 | 4 | 20 |
| Glen Iris (eth-dog) | 7 | 16 | 4 | 18 |
Analysis of Standings:
- Geelong (Lingsface) tops the table with a strong defense and versatile forwards, capitalizing on their balanced team setup.
- West Coast (ArdentEagle) performs well due to their strong defensive unit and powerful midfield.
- Fremantle (Purple7X08_24) and Sydney (theasian) show strong performances with powerful midfielders and dynamic forwards.
- Port Adelaide (whatwhatsaywhat) and Gold Coast (WilloTree) perform solidly but face challenges against top teams.
- Carlton (RUNVS) and Melbourne (MarcMaverick) demonstrate strong potential but have inconsistent results.
- Collingwood (Fadge) and Westside Pavlovas (Mr Meow) struggle with consistency but show glimpses of strong performances.
- Hawthorn (Guardian Hawk) and North Melbourne (Sphynx) show promise but struggle against high-pressure teams.
- GWS (boncer34), Manninghorse (Redmanwashere), and Windrunners (PhoenixBonez) face challenges with defensive consistency and forward impact.
- Glen Iris (eth-dog) rounds out the table with a need for more balanced performances across all areas.
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eth-dog
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Proof that ChatGPT is useless
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Look at the draws too
Purple7x08_24
President: Galactic Federation
Run it 20 times and see how it goesLook at the draws too
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Okay - I have an Eth isn't going to like it.
Pretty much same order except my team is now first. Lol
Purple7x08_24
President: Galactic Federation
not bad given all the chirping
eth-dog
Tier 1 WW Player
Further proof that it's crap.
Hahaha I really like it.
Thanks to everyone for organizing this and it was a lot of fun.
Happy with my team lacking the firepower of others up forward in terms of big forwards happy with Daniher Oloughlin and Waite to provide enough of a contest to bring in some of my elite smaller players. No lack of leading options as well if we can play with pace off the backline.
Happiest with the following picks
Nathan G Brown and Didak- These two are perfect forward midfield rotations in there prime were pure match winners.
Scarlett Rance and Clement- Can not score against these 3 fit perfectly together.
Clement Scarlett Stratton
Bowden Rance Adcock
Camporeale Hayes Corey
Didak Daniher N Brown
Welsh Oloughlin Waite
Ryder Neale Beams
K Cornes P Medhurst L Whitnall C Mckercher
Midfield rotations
N Brown Didak Cornes Corey Camporeale Mckercher Neale Hayes Beams
Forward options
Didak Brown Whitnall Medhurst Daniher Welsh Waite Oloughlin Beams
Back options
Clement Scarlett Mckercher Adcock COrey Bowden Rance Waite
Ruck rotation
Ryder 70 percent Waite 20 percent Daniher 10 percent
Thanks to everyone for organizing this and it was a lot of fun.
Happy with my team lacking the firepower of others up forward in terms of big forwards happy with Daniher Oloughlin and Waite to provide enough of a contest to bring in some of my elite smaller players. No lack of leading options as well if we can play with pace off the backline.
Happiest with the following picks
Nathan G Brown and Didak- These two are perfect forward midfield rotations in there prime were pure match winners.
Scarlett Rance and Clement- Can not score against these 3 fit perfectly together.
Clement Scarlett Stratton
Bowden Rance Adcock
Camporeale Hayes Corey
Didak Daniher N Brown
Welsh Oloughlin Waite
Ryder Neale Beams
K Cornes P Medhurst L Whitnall C Mckercher
Midfield rotations
N Brown Didak Cornes Corey Camporeale Mckercher Neale Hayes Beams
Forward options
Didak Brown Whitnall Medhurst Daniher Welsh Waite Oloughlin Beams
Back options
Clement Scarlett Mckercher Adcock COrey Bowden Rance Waite
Ruck rotation
Ryder 70 percent Waite 20 percent Daniher 10 percent
Purple7x08_24
President: Galactic Federation
Ill get them together tonight
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