Player Watch #29: Will Phillips - tags N.Daicos vs Collingwood - subbed off at 3/4 time??

[XU1-ROO]

Powell will make it, just having some nagging injuries the last 2 seasons.

hope so.

 

[Kanga1996]

We all know how young Dylan will be treated here if he puts up these numbers for us next season. FWIW he’s 22 and has only played 40 games so plenty of time to develop. For Dylan’s sake I hope he has at least one elite trait, apparently that‘s what you need for BF to over look all the other deficiencies in your game. Oh well.
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80kg will fit in perfectly.


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[Epictetus]

Give him one full preseason. He’s going to be an absolute bull.

He is not - ever - going to be an absolute bull imo. He is tiny.

 

[koshari]

He is not - ever - going to be an absolute bull imo. He is tiny.

Poor mans caleb daniels

 

[Hazey1977]

The Sam Mitchell stuff gives me a headache. Let's not make it harder for Will than it already is.

Yeah, it's hard to become a smug w*nker if you're not born one

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[Themanbun]

He is not - ever - going to be an absolute bull imo. He is tiny.

Size is comparable to Rowell, who is 4th in the league for contested possessions and clearances. Different types of players of course but their size is very comparable.

It's also hard to get a gauge of a guy's real size by eye. He weighs more than Powelly for example, despite being shorter and looking a lot smaller. Meaning he's got a lot of weight in his lower body where you want it to be.

His biggest challenge will be trying to gain 6-7kg while building his running.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

What's your definition of good? Getting a couple handballs out for the afternoon?

I have been really supportive of Phillips - but it is starting to get worrying. His kicking is completely ineffectual. He gets bodied off the play easily. His handballing is sub-par. He is slow and stagnant.

Just because he has a few regulation contributions a game, it doesn't make him good. For example, he laid a couple good tackling efforts, but they look good because our side is so devoid of effort. They are regulation contributions to any other side in the competition.

He really needs to show more. I'll still give him the benefit of the doubt given his history, but if he doesn't significantly improve next year - big alarm bells.

This is bang on.

 

[CBSlogger]

The Viney comparison is interesting.

Viney came in as a ready-to-go inside tank.

Will came in completely underdone with the rest of the covid-affected 2020 draftees, then had glandular fever, so i've compared his 3rd year to Viney's 2nd.

I get why people aren't confident he'll be a star, but I can't fathom how you can't see a solid footballer, prob +150 games.

 

[Makeshift Park]

So we’re into Dylan Stephens , apparently is quick.
That’s rather interesting.

LDU , Wardlaw, Stephens, Simpkin then the part timers and maybe Reid.

As I said interesting

We all know how young Dylan will be treated here if he puts up these numbers for us next season. FWIW he’s 22 and has only played 40 games so plenty of time to develop. For Dylan’s sake I hope he has at least one elite trait, apparently that‘s what you need for BF to over look all the other deficiencies in your game. Oh well.
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Surely the idea is he plays 90% on the wing, and rarely as an inside mid.

He has elite pace and elite endurance but his contested work is very so-so.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Judge Phillips once he is up around that 80% game time.

I’m seeing small snippets of that elite footy craft that made him the best midfielder in his draft class but he is just unable to sustain it for any length of time.

Needs continuity and an uninterrupted pre-season.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Yeah not sure trading out someone who actually works hard is going to help the high performance culture we're trying to build.
I'm back him in, two big preseasons, 5-6 years in, 65+ games, we'll know if we've got something by then.
We got pretty early on some of these kids. 50 games is usually a good marker.
Will and Laz have played 29 and 30 AFL games. Powell has played 43 games. Next year or two will be telling for that 2020 draft.

 

[The acurate one]

Good ^^ I believe youse . We need him to be very good.

 

[shintemaster]

Size is comparable to Rowell, who is 4th in the league for contested possessions and clearances. Different types of players of course but their size is very comparable.

It's also hard to get a gauge of a guy's real size by eye. He weighs more than Powelly for example, despite being shorter and looking a lot smaller. Meaning he's got a lot of weight in his lower body where you want it to be.

His biggest challenge will be trying to gain 6-7kg while building his running.

This is the perfect take IMO. He can build from here and be a 100+ game player or he can put on that extra weight and add to his running over the next 2-3 seasons and potentially be a weapon. The question will be whether he needs to take a step back and size up in order to have the physicality before building the run or we just get km's into his legs and find a spot until he can put on the size. I think a player like him that is a lot of extra weight and it is 2 seasons minimum to have that size and still improve his running.

 

[My Left Foote]

Surely the idea is he plays 90% on the wing, and rarely as an inside mid.

He has elite pace and elite endurance but his contested work is very so-so.

I don't know enough about him but if what you're saying is correct then that makes a lot of sense.

 

[Themanbun]

This is the perfect take IMO. He can build from here and be a 100+ game player or he can put on that extra weight and add to his running over the next 2-3 seasons and potentially be a weapon. The question will be whether he needs to take a step back and size up in order before building the run or we just get km's into his legs and find a spot until he can put on the size. I think a player like him that is a lot of extra weight and it is 2 seasons minimum to have that size and still improve his running.

A good comparison for this year IMO is Rowell's first season after the big injury. He came into the AFL with a much better tank than Will did, albeit at a similar size. Then he lost that tank after the knee and his numbers dropped from what we saw in his few games in 2020. Slowly built them back up and while he still isn't accumulating, he has snuck up pretty high in the league his bread and butter contested and tackle work.

 

[franjon]

21 years old, coming off glandular fever and has a great attitude. Delist

Yes it's odd. Malcolm Blight had glandular fever and it kept him screwed for about 12 months. A shit player.

 

[Moti]

Size is comparable to Rowell, who is 4th in the league for contested possessions and clearances. Different types of players of course but their size is very comparable.

It's also hard to get a gauge of a guy's real size by eye. He weighs more than Powelly for example, despite being shorter and looking a lot smaller. Meaning he's got a lot of weight in his lower body where you want it to be.

His biggest challenge will be trying to gain 6-7kg while building his running.

The Rowell and Viney comparison is interesting. Both are manic at the ball with real strength and power. Philips doesn't seem to have that power into contests like a wrecking ball. He tends to go in with a more tactical approach but it doesn't seem to be as effective as yet. Will be interesting if he has to change the approach or can get it working better against the larger bodies in the AFL

 

[King Corey]

Good ^^ I believe youse . We need him to be very good.

Fwiw TAO I'm not a fanboy of Will but his bottom year highlights were really encouraging. Played with a real zip and power to his game against older players.

If he can get his strength and fitness up to equivalent standards there is possibly an Andrew Swallow type quality there.

And I rated Swallow as a key part of our push into those prelims.

 

[Moti]

Fwiw TAO I'm not a fanboy of Will but his bottom year highlights were really encouraging. Played with a real zip and power to his game against older players.

If he can get his strength and fitness up to equivalent standards there is possibly an Andrew Swallow type quality there.

And I rated Swallow as a key part of our push into those prelims.

He definitely has an extra bit of zip in that package although his overall way of playing is pretty similar to what we have seen. If he can display that comparative zip in an AFL setting he would be more effective.

 

[franjon]

21 years old, coming off glandular fever and has a great attitude. Delist

I agree, **** him off now!

 

[Themanbun]

The Rowell and Viney comparison is interesting. Both are manic at the ball with real strength and power. Philips doesn't seem to have that power into contests like a wrecking ball. He tends to go in with a more tactical approach but it doesn't seem to be as effective as yet. Will be interesting if he has to change the approach or can get it working better against the larger bodies in the AFL

Sorry I noted in the first post that they were different types of players but was mostly comparing their size/fitness for the peeps who were saying he 'looks' too small to be a strong contested player.

In terms of style of play he's interesting. He's quicker than a guy like Rowell, but does a lot more blocking and space based defensive work than him. Rowell is more manic at the contest.

 

[Mordecai]

Size is comparable to Rowell, who is 4th in the league for contested possessions and clearances. Different types of players of course but their size is very comparable.

It's also hard to get a gauge of a guy's real size by eye. He weighs more than Powelly for example, despite being shorter and looking a lot smaller. Meaning he's got a lot of weight in his lower body where you want it to be.

His biggest challenge will be trying to gain 6-7kg while building his running.

The Rowell and Viney comparison is interesting. Both are manic at the ball with real strength and power. Philips doesn't seem to have that power into contests like a wrecking ball. He tends to go in with a more tactical approach but it doesn't seem to be as effective as yet. Will be interesting if he has to change the approach or can get it working better against the larger bodies in the AFL

Rendell made the same comparison on Open Mike which is why I liked the pick so much.

 

[r_boy]

Did have an injury during the time he had glandular fever? When he was a junior he could burst out of stoppages similar to LDU, he's not doing it at the moment.

What are you doing stalking here lockdown boy? Don't act like you're not a troll

 

[Handsome.B.Wonderful]

Surely the idea is he plays 90% on the wing, and rarely as an inside mid.

He has elite pace and elite endurance but his contested work is very so-so.

Stephens played a huge game on the wing in the QF vs Melbourne last year. Looked like a young Isaac Smith that night.

We also need a 2019 1st round pick on the list as we're missing one from our collection. Another pick 5 will look great on the Footy Classified list analysis page when we're 1-11 at the bye next year.

Shit, what a draft to trade out of, the first round was like fish in a barrel.

 

[Makeshift Park]

We also need a 2019 1st round pick on the list as we're missing one from our collection. Another pick 5 will look great on the Footy Classified list analysis page when we're 1-11 at the bye next year.

Bugger it, we might as well add Dow and DGB too just to spite them.