Preview 2nd Prelim Final Geelong v Brisbane Sat Sept 21 2024 515pm @ MCG

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Brisbane are the best team in the comp. However their control game is Geelong 2019/2020 , you could see Kingsley was a Dimma clone and chaos was smashing Geelong control last night. Then the lions had nothing to lose and started taking risks and amping up their pressure.
Anyway most cat fans get their wish of playing Brisbane and even suggested we should be shorter in the betting market…..
seems it’s flag or flop time. Who’s prepared to do a Mitchell?
Hardly think making a Prelim and losing to last years GF’ist would be a flop, only a troll would say that..
 

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I think Lions, just that they mildly underperform. But hardly a weakness along every line, although some here say their defence is questionable. Their mids, ruck, forwards, and running game is enviable.
Watching Geelong in our final- if that is what CS has been preparing for, ie peaking at the right time- that was a brilliant running game that lasted 4 quarters and was close to the first time I'd seen it all year. That sort of play could win the whole thing. Can we trust us to serve that up again, and then again?
Danger is on a mission to become
Premiership Captain + Win Normie

Holmes wants to avenge missing 22

Jezza to redeem poor GF performance
After his interrupted GF eve sleep

Oldies want to go out as winners

Mannagh desperate to take his chance

New Cats are hungry and primed
The team is in form and fresh

Cats know they are capable of winning
They will all give it their best shot
 
Firstly I’m not changing the defensive structure I had Thursday night. That is our perfect set up.

FB: Bews Henry Kolo
HB: Humphries Blicavs Zuthrie (Duncan)

Three genuine rebounding back flankers. A few intercepting and 1v1 defensive specialists.

If for some reason I want to throw my successful structure out, I will take the best performer of the season, with the most finals minutes in the bank, as the sub. For Duncan vs Tuohy, that leaves me with Duncan.
Its too small. Needs sdk.
 
Stewart for Mullin seems the obvious in

With Brisbane's forward line, plus McInerney being one who does drift forward it can see them with a number of tall options up forward meaning that SDK would definitely be in the discussion, but when we've played them in the past we haven't changed our defensive structure to play the additional tall defender

In the 2022 prelim, Brisbane went into that match with Daniher, Hipwood, McStay and McInerney in the ruck - our defence was SDK, Henry & Kolodjashi, with Stanley & Blicavs in the ruck to match up on them

They haven't really replaced McStay with another tall forward and instead going with small to medium forward options - so if we're using Blicavs in defence then he seems the obvious one to take Daniher, Henry then resumes duties against Hipwood and it allows Kolodjashnij to play in the 3rd tall

Adding SDK to the mix may make us too tall defence unless they've got another role in line for either SDK or Blicavs to play as an extra midfielder
Big ask for stanley to ruck all night and then back it up next week. Play sdk part defense and part ruck and give stanley a chop out while giving us taller support in defense if needed.
 
There is going to be one player that is super stiff to miss out.

For me that comes down to SDK or Tuohy.

We had issues with small forwards during the regular season and CS has recalled Bews from Coventry to play that role. Given we face Cameron and then could face either Papley/Rioli who both tore us a new one in the regular season when Bews wasn't playing, I'm expecting Bews to stay in.

Brisbane with their two ruckman sized key forwards and Sydney playing 3 key forwards would both help the selection case for SDK.

Humphries has come in and performed better than Tuohy.

Hawkins is the 24 version of Mooney, it's harder for CS to be ruthless with players that he has a long relationship with but Tuohy could well be the 24 version of Milburn.
Agree on Bews. Papley kicked four against Mullin earlier this year.
 
Let’s not forget that it was just three games ago that StKilda absolutely towelled us up.
It was only the second half we were atrocious and it was a couple of hours after Collingwood shocked Brisbane a point to pretty much cement us in the top 4 without having to beat the Saints.
But yes, it was an awful effort.
 
Giants fade out got the Lions over the line. Hard to say if lions were so good or Giants have devils in their heads - to cough up that lead in a final is devastating.
Pressure will be the key once again - if we can create turnovers I’d back our ball movement and forwards to do the job.
We had 38 scoring shots in the QF, let that sink in and look at the spread of goalkickers.
We are fit , in great touch and will be well rested and have a winning plan - it’s all about execution Catters👍💯
 

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Pretty sure last 2 years were 5.15pm too

  • 2023, Brisbane vs Carlton started at 5:15pm
  • 2022, Sydney vs Collingwood started at 4:45pm
  • 2019, Collingwood vs GWS started at 4:35pm
  • 2017, Richmond vs GWS started at 4:45pm
  • 2014, Hawthorn vs Port started at 4:45pm
  • 2012, Hawthorn vs Adelaide started at 5:15pm
  • 2011, Geelong vs WCE started at 2:20pm
Home team listed first
 
Giants fade out got the Lions over the line. Hard to say if lions were so good or Giants have devils in their heads - to cough up that lead in a final is devastating.
Pressure will be the key once again - if we can create turnovers I’d back our ball movement and forwards to do the job.
We had 38 scoring shots in the QF, let that sink in and look at the spread of goalkickers.
We are fit , in great touch and will be well rested and have a winning plan - it’s all about execution Catters👍💯

Thats exactly my impression and they were leading Bris 12 goals to 4 at one stage so they had totally outplayed Bris to that date

Not saying it arrogantly but i think Geel have got the right opponent

My worry with GWS is they are normally ( bar their Carlton game ) confident good starters , thus concerned they could kick out to a 3-4 goal early lead then all the pressure would be on Geel to reel that in , in a knockout final

If Stewart is 100% right then he comes in , for an unlucky player going out , i would keep Tuohy as the Sub like last game , versatile player and can come on with a bit of dash

No excuses for Geel , i would be surprised if they got beat
 
I find this a bit much. Port Adelaide simply aren't good enough, it doesn't mean that Hinkley is somehow a "fraud".
Agree he’s coached a team to at least top 4 with anywhere from 3 to 7 players that would not get a spot on our list, that is a marvellous effort considering we are far from a dominant force.
 
I think GWS and the Bulldogs have the most talented lists. Brisbane are up there but Daniher and Hipwood are flakey and Neale is not the player he was.
Harsh, Neale is third fav for the Brownlow and had a fantastic year. He will need attention no doubt.
 
Agree he’s coached a team to at least top 4 with anywhere from 3 to 7 players that would not get a spot on our list, that is a marvellous effort considering we are far from a dominant force.
Our final really said it all didn't it?

Three of our rejects propping up their forward line, and one of them regarded as a 'vital piece' who they gave a 5 year deal to.

They've always had an awesome top tier in the Hinkley era really.

Boak, Gray, Wingard, Wines, Schulz into Rozee, Butters, JHF, Wines again, Houston, Dixon (when he could still walk).

For that entire period though, the bottom 6-10 has been borderline SANFL quality.

Chris Scott & Clarko a decade ago might be able to turn that into water into wine, but most coaches can't.

It's on the list management team and/or the pay structure if anything.
 
Our final really said it all didn't it?

Three of our rejects propping up their forward line, and one of them regarded as a 'vital piece' who they gave a 5 year deal to.

They've always had an awesome top tier in the Hinkley era really.

Boak, Gray, Wingard, Wines, Schulz into Rozee, Butters, JHF, Wines again, Houston, Dixon (when he could still walk).

For that entire period though, the bottom 6-10 has been borderline SANFL quality.

Chris Scott & Clarko a decade ago might be able to turn that into water into wine, but most coaches can't.

It's on the list management team and/or the pay structure if anything.
Picking up Rozee and Butters in one draft certainly fast tracked any mini rebuild, and they got lucky with JHF wanting to return home, not too dissimilar to Danger for us. Their fringe players are just, so recruiting as a whole I’d say not awesome. Do like the look of the young fella down back picked up in the mid season draft, might be a steal.

Watching Friday night, the ex Cats, Sav tried hard and was good early, but glad he’s there now. Narkle had a good ten mins in the third but he and Evans are extremely lucky to be playing AFL for me.
 
Thought Giants exposed Lions lack of speed
They sliced through the Lions with handball
This is the way the cats like to move the ball.
Cats main strength is the fast rebound game
Aim to outscore Lions force them to defend
Cats must negate Lions intercept defenders
Suggest SDK play as defensive forward
Stop Andrews = game is played in Cats F50
SDK gives versatility for Ruck and Defense
Ashcroft can hurt, Neale can destroy you.
Mullin has focus and discipline to tag Neale
Good tag needs to sacrifice their own game
Free other Mid's to driving the ball forward.


OUT : Bews Touhy - IN : Stewart SDK
SUB : Mullin / Touhy
Cameron, Neale AND SDK up forward?
 
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