Player Watch #34: Jack Graham - MOVED TO WCE - PICK 42 Received

[GhostofJimJess]

And if WC change their mind or get a better offer from a similar but better players?

You don’t think the likes of Clarke and Hartley don’t speak frankly and often with one another?

 

[Grrr]

You don’t think the likes of Clarke and Hartley don’t speak frankly and often with one another?

They may well do, but right now there are players going too and fro so nothing is set. I guess we won't really know anything until it all starts on 7th next month.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

I guess we won't really know anything until it all starts on 7th next month.

Yep, but you can bet that won’t stop campaigners drawing conclusions and complaining incessantly about our club between now and then.

 

[Dr Tigris]

The problem is, if we keep him, we'll play him. So he'll be keeping a young developing midfielder out of the team. And we've already got enough guys (Prestia, Taranto, Hopper) who aren't quick.

I'm not arguing for keeping him, or trading him.

All I said was that I see the club's logic. Firstly Graham helps with mentoring and being a role model. Secondly, if we get injuries again (Shocking concept I know) then Graham fills a hole.

Not great rationale for 4 more years, but ... I guess it makes some sense.

We'll see. I guess we are thinking that we have $ and if he stays, good, if he goes we get better compo. Win win

 

[THE_GUN]

This is all a plan between Hartley & Clarke to get Richmond pick #2 as compo

Eagles are desperate to get him and made him a big 4 year offer and richmond has come over the top to try to retain the player they see as a leader and future captain of our club so desperate to keep him.
Eagles will reassess and come to the conclusion they also need such a great leader and will offer $1 mil x 4 years which the Tigers wont match.

But the path has been set so there is not questions about manipulating the compo system as he is a very highly rated leader player from both clubs .

 

[RJK Tiger]

Are we.still talking about Jack Graham

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Jack Graham

Age

26

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

? Or has Trent Cotchin

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Trent Cotchin

Age

34

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.4

5star

K

13.8

5star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

5.2

5star

D

19.0

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.5

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.3

5star

CL

3.5

4star

D

16.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.0

3star

came out of retirement & is 26 again?

 

[Wooden Robot]

This is all a plan between Hartley & Clarke to get Richmond pick #2 as compo

Eagles are desperate to get him and made him a big 4 year offer and richmond has come over the top to try to retain the player they see as a leader and future captain of our club so desperate to keep him.
Eagles will reassess and come to the conclusion they also need such a great leader and will offer $1 mil x 4 years which the Tigers wont match.

But the path has been set so there is not questions about manipulating the compo system as he is a very highly rated leader player from both clubs .

Future captain??

People have sprouting that nonsense for six years.
He's never even got close to it - and never will.
I swear some people think if they post something enough times someone will eventually believe it.
Graham is about as useful and as slow as one of those Jack Dyer Stand digital bricks.
We'll see how desperate the Eagles are soon when we are saddled with him for four more years of mediocrity and oppo midfielders scooting past him.

 

[TigerImposter]

Why would it backfire?

Homework has been done, dialogues have been had. Matt Clarke would have a clear line of communication with the Richmond list manager, probably still in the same WhatsApp chat group. They would all know very well where each other sits with regard to JGTI.

If we want him, we’ve shown our love and have priced the Eagles out of the market.

If we don’t want him, then we have maximised our return compo wise.

No doubt Richmond and West Coast are playing openhanded poker on this one.

Do you know what the offer is as it could be 4 years on peanuts?

 

[TigerImposter]

Yep, but you can bet that won’t stop campaigners drawing conclusions and complaining incessantly about our club between now and then.

You are insinuating that we are going to get a better offer yet we don't even know what the offer is. I personally believe his offer is four years on minimum chips and a dim sim thrown in every now and then if he meets certain kpi's.

 

[THE_GUN]

Future captain??

People have sprouting that nonsense for six years.
He's never even got close to it - and never will.
I swear some people think if they post something enough times someone will eventually believe it.
Graham is about as useful and as slow as one of those Jack Dyer Stand digital bricks.
We'll see how desperate the Eagles are soon when we are saddled with him for four more years of mediocrity and oppo midfielders scooting past him.

 

[Hoos]

All I said was that I see the club's logic. Firstly Graham helps with mentoring and being a role model. Secondly, if we get injuries again (Shocking concept I know) then Graham fills a hole.

I get that. And if we were a club that holds it's experienced players to the same standards as the younger guys, then that's a sensible and logical stategy regarding Graham.

The only problem is we haven't done that for quite a while now.

 

[tropicaltiger]

And if WC change their mind or get a better offer from a similar but better players?

yep can see the horny frank situation repeating itself with weagles ending up getting a quality 22-25 solid player on the JGTI money and us stuck with jack on good money for a depth/battler who is rarely 100% fit

 

[Bojangles17]

Why would it backfire?

Homework has been done, dialogues have been had. Matt Clarke would have a clear line of communication with the Richmond list manager, probably still in the same WhatsApp chat group. They would all know very well where each other sits with regard to JGTI.

If we want him, we’ve shown our love and have priced the Eagles out of the market.

If we don’t want him, then we have maximised our return compo wise.

No doubt Richmond and West Coast are playing openhanded poker on this one.

Exactly and if he was going to accept our offer. He would’ve by now. You would’ve thought.

 

[RJK Tiger]

How can it backfire they say......

So many differeny ways. Eagles dont even have a coach. Alll their offers atm are written in pencil. The idea he would have accepted ours by now too.... nuts. No one accepts offers on a house while the auction is still on. Graham has to way up not just tge offers, but the cities, real estate, & who his boss might be ie Eagles coach.

There are a ridiculous amount of logical reasons he hadnt acceptef an offer

 

[Wally Matera]

Do we absolutely get compensation if Graham decides to leave?

 

[Dr Tigris]

Do we absolutely get compensation if Graham decides to leave?

Depending on the contract, yes.

At best probably after our 2nd round is the best we get. Given we went 4 years it's more likely that we get that. Perhaps end of 2nd round.

But then the AFL special spices are key. If they want to give us a little helping hand we get the pick after our 2nd. If it is the usual we get a round 84th pick. We'll see, if mini gets the gig at WC

 

[tropicaltiger]

maybe port might have another sniff, boaky seems a bit past his use by date now and jack might offer something as a younger workhorse utility type that could be handy if he gets a fresh start as a mentor/18-25th ranked best rated for selection.

 

[voorhees]

maybe port might have another sniff, boaky seems a bit past his use by date now and jack might offer something as a younger workhorse utility type that could be handy if he gets a fresh start as a mentor/18-25th ranked best rated for selection.

Don't think it will play out like that.
Boak is selfish and will go around again.
Port Adelaide are stupid and will let him

 

[Coach_Required]

Graham is waiting on Bakes to make a decision.

 

[Ctl]

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"while Richmond premiership player Jack Graham is weighing up a four-year offer from West Coast. If he was to depart an end-of-second-round pick is seen as the best possible result for compensation for the Tigers. "

If Graham leaves it looks like he'll net us pick 41 instead of pick 22.

 

[Sir_Loin]

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"while Richmond premiership player Jack Graham is weighing up a four-year offer from West Coast. If he was to depart an end-of-second-round pick is seen as the best possible result for compensation for the Tigers. "

If Graham leaves it looks like he'll net us pick 41 instead of pick 22.

Did his job for us if we get a pick better than what we selected him for take it.

He’s a banged up Mack truck. Always be a Richmond man but this industry is a profession. Go where the money and opportunity gives you the best bang for buck if you’re not in a premiership window.

 

[Hoos]

If Graham leaves it looks like he'll net us pick 41 instead of pick 22.

That'll do.

 

[tropicaltiger]

Jack has requested a trade to St Kilda
strong rumour on mid week tackle


jack macrae that is sorry wasn't listening properly
and needed to rewind kayo 1 minute and listen again for clarity.

 

[TigerImposter]

Port to need AFL clearance, Cat to go on, future Pie on show

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"while Richmond premiership player Jack Graham is weighing up a four-year offer from West Coast. If he was to depart an end-of-second-round pick is seen as the best possible result for compensation for the Tigers. "

If Graham leaves it looks like he'll net us pick 41 instead of pick 22.

And that would be a bonus considering I would just delist the Oompa Loompa.

 

[richoplzbreed]

Port to need AFL clearance, Cat to go on, future Pie on show

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"while Richmond premiership player Jack Graham is weighing up a four-year offer from West Coast. If he was to depart an end-of-second-round pick is seen as the best possible result for compensation for the Tigers. "

If Graham leaves it looks like he'll net us pick 41 instead of pick 22.

Don't believe everything you read. Matt Flynn was a FA last year who GWS recieved band 4/ end of 2nd round compensation (pick 41) for. He played 30 games in 8 years (had to look him up as never heard of him). I highly doubt Jack Graham is only getting a contract as woeful as a journeyman who averaged < 3 games a year.

Jade Gresham netted Stkilda Band 2/ end of 1st round (pick21). Graham's surely smack bang in the middle of them at Band 3. The AFL media will seethe when they see our final draft hand but its coming at a huge cost. Graham's FA compo should be formalised day 1 before all the argy bargie trades for Baker, Rioli and Bolton.