350 gamer Brent Harvey - his standing in the game

[Dazb86]

Legend of his club not really a legend of the game.

 

[nicshata]

Good player who has played a lot of games but not in the same class as Hird, Voss, Buckley etc......

I would lump Harvey with players like Tyson Edwards which is not bad at all Edwards was a gun in his own right.

 

[kelman]

If stats were all that mattered Shane OBree and Heath Scotland would be in the HOF.

No they wouldn't. And apart from Harvey averaging over a goal and a goal assist a game from the midfield, he has some of the most damaging general disposal in the league over his time in the game.

 

[gutsroy]

Very good player, and consistently good - and longevity, the ability to maintain a high level if performance, is always a good indicator.

Would probably also not place him quite at the Voss / Hird / Buckley level, but he shouldn't be dismissed out of hand - he's averaged around 21 disposals / game throughout his career, more goals per game than Buckley or Voss, only slightly less tackles than both, he'S behind Buckley but on par with Voss for marks / game etc. All-Australian four times, runner up in the Brownlow, premiership player.

He's certainly got the resume and deserves more recognition than he gets - think Brereton's unfounded comments probably colour perceptions, too.

 

[jacko57]

Short, annoying, goal hungry and prone to dirty acts.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but has been found guilty of striking 4 times in 350 games.

yeah, another Carl Ditterich.

 

[royals1922]

Hes not in their league. Hes not even the best Harvey of his generation.

Still better than any Collingwood player he ever player against.

 

[Mr39]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but has been found guilty of striking 4 times in 350 games.

yeah, another Carl Ditterich.

Like I said previously, you don't have to be suspended to be considered dirty.

 

[Black Diamond]

You don't need to be suspended to be a dirty player. His tough guy act on Chad Wingard last year was embarrassing.

Ok. That's one incident. What are your thoughts on Chad Cornes?

 

[Chewy]

Entire thread was doomed due to the OP though, instead of praising a North Melbourne great, he has tried to place his name in company where it has never been referred to... The result being a thread which could have been celebrating the extensive achievements of boomer has been spoiled because the OP cannot help himself.

I disagree with this. It wouldn't have mattered whether the OP compared Boomer to Voss/Hird/Buckley or not. The thread was "doomed" because this is Big Footy. The negativity was inevitable. The OP probably hastened the bickering by about 20 minutes.

You had the chance to post something nice about Harvey, but instead, you elected to pot the OP

 

[Chewy]

There is no reason that I can think of why James Hird should be constantly talked up as one of the untouchable gods of football and Boomer Harvey constantly belittled and knocked off his Champion perch by non-North fans.

Both of them are champions of the game and in my opinion, there is not a whole lot separating them. Different skill sets and playing styles obviously. Both of them had a similar influence on games with their pure attacking genius and lack of defence.

I think the whole Hird/Voss/Buckley thing is a big wank. I rate Robert Harvey as better than all three. And I watched enough of all of them at close quarters to make that call. The Adelaide duo are right there with them also. I think if you scrutinise Hird's record closely, it's probably not as good as the others. Boomer Harvey's productivity over the years probably exceeeds Hird's.

Anyway, I'm probably speaking heresy. I would hate to speak out against the status quo. Boomer on the next rung down with Matthew Richardson and Gavin Wanganeen and Paul Roos and wank wank wank...

 

[Mr39]

Ok. That's one incident. What are your thoughts on Chad Cornes?

Similar mould, you love them on your team, hate them on others.

 

[Mr39]

Ok. That's one incident. What are your thoughts on Chad Cornes?

However, Chad was incredibly courageous. Not really a word i'd use to describe Harvey.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

The list of players who have played over 300 games throws up a varying mix, middle of the rung pluggers like Shaw Ashcroft Blakey Burke Simpson Grant Greene and Smith, to all time legends like Tuck Bartlett Matthews Watson Reynolds S Madden R Harvey and McLeod and Bradley.

B Harvey fits in the middle somewhere with HAwkins Rantall Akermanis West Cloke Quinlan J MAdden and Archer.

 

[royals1922]

I can run a pretty solid argument that Buckley is not on par with Boomer Harvey ( games won etc ) but all it would do is detract from the achievements of Buckley and Harvey. I could also run a decent argument about Voss and Robert Harvey and all that would do is say more about me than the players I make comments about. On other threads people have rubbished John Blakey when I remember him and he is a testament to the game.

13 blokes (including Boomer) will have played 350 games. It it is an achievement reached by few.

But BigFooty is ruled by partisanship and perception.

Boomer is a champion of the game as are the other 12 players to play 350 games...

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Nobody is doubting Harveys ability to last a long time. That is without question.

 

[royals1922]

Nobody is doubting Harveys ability to last a long time. That is without question.

As I said earlier I can run similar arguments about every other player named in this thread, the arguments I run, may be valid but might also do an injustice to players like Harvey etc.

What is truly objective is the fact that a player is in the Hall of Fame and many of the other players named in this thread are in the Hall of Fame.

 

[royalsfan]

Good player who ha played an awful lot of footy. That's it.

 

[invinciBlues]

Out of interest, how the hell was Hird's Norm Smith contentious?

Blumfield had it all sewn up until they took him off. Probably still should've won it.

Pretty much this, no slight on Hird's achievement on getting the Norm Smith, but there's a pretty strong case that Blumfield had a hand already on the medal until Sheed's yanked it out of his reach.

 

[blackshadow]

Kudos to Nathan Brown for putting Boomer in the Voss/Hird/Buckley echelon of players.

He might know a thing or two.

 

[Donakebab]

Kudos to Nathan Brown for putting Boomer in the Voss/Hird/Buckley echelon of players.

He might know a thing or two.

If you've ever listened to him speak, you'd realise he doesn't.

 

[B 52]

Insignificant player from a insignificant club.

 

[Black Diamond]

Insignificant player from a insignificant club.

He'd be in every teams best 22 and he bent your mob over last time we played.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Kudos to Nathan Brown for putting Boomer in the Voss/Hird/Buckley echelon of players.

He might know a thing or two.

Most people with a clue put him in the Nathan Brown echelon of players.

 

[WestCoastLeagle]

amazing player.

 

[ManOfClay]

Most people with a clue put him in the Nathan Brown echelon of players.

Harsh on Harvey. I put Brown in the Nathan Eagleton class. Eagleton wasn't a shit bloke, though.