Player Watch #37: Cooper Harvey - signs 1yr extension - Roo til end 2025

[The Nostradamus]

Not talking bout aflw here buddy

You not familiar with the artist?

 

[trooroo4life]

He has more talent and upside than both of Drury and Laz combined. Not saying he is a top prospect, far from it, but a 1 year deal sounds about right.

Have no issue they were let go, don’t rate either of them. But Coop should be joining them, I’m not sure where anyone sees “high upside”, he’s far too slow to be a small forward in the modern game and doesn’t really have scope to move into the midfield at this level.

Let’s not sugar coat it, he’s got an extra year because of who his old man is.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

He has more talent and upside than both of Drury and Laz combined. Not saying he is a top prospect, far from it, but a 1 year deal sounds about right.

How is he more talented? Physically he has the same limitations as the other two and is less professional.

 

[Krakouer Bonar]

Should have gone

Maybe there was a petition to keep him.

Or arrange one for him to go.

 

[kangatragic]

Absolutely idolized his dad and so wanted Cooper to make it but unfortunately just don't think he has it and to me a waste of a list spot. But I'd love to be proven wrong

 

[justroyal]

How is he more talented? Physically he has the same limitations as the other two and is less professional.

He can mark and makes kicking look super easy.
But he does seem way too nonchalant for my liking - especially compared to the other two

 

[shintemaster]

Wake up call or gone in 12 months. Ball is well and truly in his court.

 

[kangatragic]

As far as I'm concerned we will be going into 2025 with Cooper Harvey and CCJ not being up to it, Taylor Goad a long way off being ready and George being injured for the year and that's just for starters.

 

[krakouers]

As far as I'm concerned we will be going into 2025 with Cooper Harvey and CCJ not being up to it, Taylor Goad a long way off being ready and George being injured for the year and that's just for starters.

Somehow, still better than years previously though

 

[Horace]

It may have escaped some people but each week, we, as do all clubs, are only allowed to send 23 players out to contest a game. Which means in a perfect no-injuries world, with our extra 2 spots, 21 players are missing out.

So if for arguments sake, after another 12 months on the list, Cooper doesn't make it, is that all that much of a problem? Its not as if he is taking a spot that we might have otherwise filled, with say a top 30/40 draftee, because we don't have a pick in that range.

Every year, every club, has one or more players on their list, who never makes it, never even plays a game. Have a look at this years list of retirements and delistings. There are names on there, as there are every year, who are in that boat, who get delisted and the vast majority of us have never even heard of them.

Every one of those no name, no game, delisted footballers, is the ultimate definition of a list clogger.

On balance of probability, if something doesn't change over the next 12 months, Cooper will get his chance to participate in that list. The ball is absolutely in his court.

But if not him, who else should we have there?

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[TennisPlayerAndy]

Not good enough for a HF spot, not fit enough for midfield time.

Quality extension.

 

[Midas]

He does have some raw skills that neither Blake or Laz have shown.

Wasn't a fan of us re-signing him but in the scheme of things, he uses the ball well, can find the goals and just maybe the upside of him pulling his finger out could give us an excellent piece up forward who turns his career around and becomes a defence first forward.

His upside is double the other two, I am in the wait and see camp now. If we don't hear he has worked his arse off and completely changed his body shape then we know where we are at.

If he has who knows ....

 

[Archer_11]

Cooper is 20 still figuring out his place in the world. Not only does he have his old man's genes, but he has his jeans as well. Or at least access to them.

Our recent track record is dire, 30+ recruits the past eight years that have added very little. I know we need higher standards but right now I think there are worse gambles we could take.

 

[Amicalola]

It may have escaped some people but each week, we, as do all clubs, are only allowed to send 23 players out to contest a game. Which means in a perfect no-injuries world, with our extra 2 spots, 21 players are missing out.

So if for arguments sake, after another 12 months on the list, Cooper doesn't make it, is that all that much of a problem? Its not as if he is taking a spot that we might have otherwise filled, with say a top 30/40 draftee, because we don't have a pick in that range.

Every year, every club, has one of more players on their list, who never makes it, never even plays a game. Have a look at this years list of retirements and delistings. There are names on there, as there are every year, who are in that boat, who get delisted and the vast majority of us have never even heard of them.

Every one of those no name, no game, delisted footballers, is the ultimate definition of a list clogger.

On balance of probability, if something doesn't change over the next 12 months, Cooper will get his chance to participate in that list. The ball is absolutely in his court.

But if not him, who else should we have there?

AFL Retirements, Delistings, Trades - AFL.com.au

The full list of all AFL Club retirements, delistings and trade for the current Toyota AFL Premiership Season.

www.afl.com.au

The interesting thing about it, to me, is that it suggests we are probably not splitting Pick 2. As far as I understand, we will take Stevens with pick 62, and we only have 2 spots left with Harvey resigned. Maybe it's just because there were no good offers (something people here forget sometimes, imo), but if there were, I would much rather have split the pick for two KPPs in the 10-15 range.

 

[muttley45]

Looks like Cooper is the new whipping boy, 3 games last year, and none this, with some injury problems.

Pretty small sample size to be passing judgement for me, hope he seize's the chance, iirc, both Xerri and Arch weren't that popular early doors either, and look at 'em now.

 

[showusyacunningt]

Dicey areas, don't mind it overall. Only because it's Boomer's kid.

Has the innate goal sense and ability in 1v1 contests. Players like that can be handy in modern transition football, even if they're not 6'3 or lightning quick. In order to make it he would have to become incredibly hard running and be efficient with the opportunities he gets. Not a lot of room for error in his game.

 

[chubbspeterson]

So who we delisting to have our mandatory 3 draft picks

Pay out Stevo. Fine with Cooper getting anothe year as he's got some talent, but needs to grab the opportunity.
Sometimes it takes players some time to figure out the work required, if he doesn't then he's gone end of 2025.

 

[perplexed]

Not sure why we didn't push him back to rookie list to create the minimum 3 main list spots.

 

[tricknologist]

One year for him? Really? He doesn't work hard enough, is athletically limited, and has tickets on himself. Honestly feels like a nepo extension.

 

[Nylex]

Looks like Cooper is the new whipping boy, 3 games last year, and none this, with some injury problems.

Pretty small sample size to be passing judgement for me, hope he seize's the chance, iirc, both Xerri and Arch weren't that popular early doors either, and look at 'em now.

If Cooper puts in the work X and Jacko put in, he will make it. It’s up to him now

 

[SunnyBoner]

Wake up call or gone in 12 months. Ball is well and truly in his court.

What a fantastic opportunity this also presents for Barlow and the rest of our development team. I hope he makes it, for some reason he reminds me of the way Paul Hudson played.

 

[ferball]

What a fantastic opportunity this also presents for Barlow and the rest of our development team. I hope he makes it, for some reason he reminds me of the way Paul Hudson played.

With metal stops in juniors?

 

[koshari]

Somehow, still better than years previously though

Agree, with 100percent fit list we are getting close to field 18 players of afl standard. But still miles off having depth to cover inevitable injuries. And that summary is being very kind to lmac.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Looks like Cooper is the new whipping boy, 3 games last year, and none this, with some injury problems.

Pretty small sample size to be passing judgement for me, hope he seize's the chance, iirc, both Xerri and Arch weren't that popular early doors either, and look at 'em now.

Yep there seems to be a real blood lust to purge players. If he goes end of 2025 then so be it, but just for some context here are some of his numbers compared with Blake and RHJ.

So Cooper's kicked 33 goals, 25 behinds, had 52 tackles in 26 VFL games. Also, played 3 AFL games.
In 2024 he played 14 VFL games, kicked 12 goals, 9 behinds and had 32 tackles. Had injury issues as well.
In 2023 at VFL level he played 12 VFL games, kicked 21 goals (2 x 5 goal games) and had 20 tackles.
In 2023 at AFL level he had 3 games, 28 disposals (17 kicks, 11 handballs), 11 marks, 1 goal and 6 tackles.

For comparison, Blake Drury kicked 18 goals, 15 behinds, 46 tackles from 23 VFL games. (Cooper has 33.25 scores)
Blake had 10 AFL games (6 in 23' & 4 in 24') with 90 disposals (51 kicks, 39 handballs), 3 goals, 2 behinds, 12 tackles.
Hansen Jnr has had 20 VFL games, 22 goals, 12 behinds and 36 tackles.
Hansen Jnr has had 8 AFL games, 59 disposals (30 k, 29 h), 4 goals, 4 behinds, 8 tackles.

So just on that Cooper has kicked more goals than Blake and RHJ and had more scoring shots.
Blake and Cooper have the same number of tackles (AFL/VFL) of 58 in total. Worth another year to me.

 

[koshari]

Looks like Cooper is the new whipping boy, 3 games last year, and none this, with some injury problems.

Pretty small sample size to be passing judgement for me, hope he seize's the chance, iirc, both Xerri and Arch weren't that popular early doors either, and look at 'em now.

Would you prefer we wait for 7 years to determine he isnt up to it like with ccj?