Play Nice 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: If you want Capitalism, you got it

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USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

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USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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< - Trump 19 is back there.

 

[Festerz]

 

[magpie_marty]

Is it really worth accepting modern slavery/indentured servitude of illegal immigrants, just so everyday Americans can get groceries a little cheaper?

You understand that these people have zero rights, correct?

This is what's happening in modern America.

Also, illegal immigrants keep the minimum wage down, so it's a complete juxtaposition for groups from the same side of politics to protest about deporting illegals, then complain about the minimum wage being so low at the same time.

Partly correct but they also pay taxes.

Tax Contributions

Do undocumented immigrants pay taxes? Undocumented immigrants play a crucial role in the U.S. economy, not only through their labor but also through substantial tax contributions that support public services and government programs. In 2022, households led by undocumented immigrants paid $75.6B...

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

How do Undocumented Immigrants Pay Federal Taxes? An Explainer | Bipartisan Policy Center

As Tax Day 2018 approaches, it is worth exploring a pressing question that is widely misunderstood: do undocumented immigrants pay federal taxes?

bipartisanpolicy.org

 

[bzparkes]

Partly correct but they also pay taxes.

If they're lucky enough to get paid, because they don't pay income tax.

 

[Satan]

Tariffs on danish pron , Barron will be devasated

 

[campbell]

I'm just saying...


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That aint Melania.
Different body shape, and facial bone profile.
oops.

 

[magpie_marty]

If they're lucky enough to get paid, because they don't pay income tax.

Actually they do.

 

[campbell]

Actually they do.

Dumb arse is decreasing the actual taxation revenue received by the government.

but.

This is the guy setting up an external tarriff department.

 

[ShadowCat]

How is this not the biggest news story around the world?

We literally have a supposedly 'democratic' country, threatening another country, in order to seize their land - by force if necessary. An ally no less.

This is the end of America as we know it. Democracy is falling across the world. Soft autocracy is the new world order.

I'd weep for humanity, but it's really our fault that we let our individualist nature trump (no pun intended...or who knows maybe it is, lol), the search for a greater good for all.

Make no mistake, this is happening in our country too, and elsewhere abroad. This is not an aberration. The elite have taken everything, so now predictably we target each other as designed...and bow to the very people who ****ed our lives up in the first place.

Bring on anarchy.

 

[bzparkes]

Actually they do.

How do they pay income tax when they're illegally working?

I'm gonna need this explained to me here.

 

[campbell]

How do they pay income tax when they're illegally working?

I'm gonna need this explained to me here.

yes they do.

Tax Contributions

Do undocumented immigrants pay taxes? Undocumented immigrants play a crucial role in the U.S. economy, not only through their labor but also through substantial tax contributions that support public services and government programs. In 2022, households led by undocumented immigrants paid $75.6B...

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

 

[bzparkes]

yes they do.

Tax Contributions

Do undocumented immigrants pay taxes? Undocumented immigrants play a crucial role in the U.S. economy, not only through their labor but also through substantial tax contributions that support public services and government programs. In 2022, households led by undocumented immigrants paid $75.6B...

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

Have you got a more reliable source than a 100 word 'yes they do' article and a link that doesn't open, by any chance?

 

[ShadowCat]

Have you got a more reliable source than a 100 word 'yes they do' article and a link that doesn't open, by any chance?

It's a dot org article specifically answering the question of immigrant tax contributions, what the hell more do you want?

 

[magpie_marty]

Have you got a more reliable source than a 100 word 'yes they do' article and a link that doesn't open, by any chance?

https://www.thecommonwealthinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Tax-Contributions-of-Undocumented-Immigrants-2015_V1.pdf

 

[bzparkes]

It's a dot org article specifically answering the question of immigrant tax contributions, what the hell more do you want?

Definitive proof

 

[bzparkes]

https://www.thecommonwealthinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Tax-Contributions-of-Undocumented-Immigrants-2015_V1.pdf

Could you kindly explain to me how an illegal immigrant in the USA is meant to pay income tax when they don't have a social security number?

Just trying to understand this part.

 

[magpie_marty]

Could you kindly explain to me how an illegal immigrant in the USA is meant to pay income tax when they don't have a social security number?

Just trying to understand this part.

I honestly give up.
Its pointless
I have showed 3 clear articles that explain.
Next you will ask me do they have a drivers license and receive health care.
I will let you do your research and discover.

 

[bzparkes]

I honestly give up.
Its pointless .

My understanding is that you need a social security number to pay tax in the USA.

Illegals can't get a social security number.

So I want to know how it's possible that they can pay income tax.

If you could provide info not sourced by some random blog, that'd be appreciated.

 

[Chicago1]

I wonder who will replace the people deported to do such manual jobs?
Abattoirs,Construction,Delivery Drivers,People that work the fields picking vegetables,
The list is endless.

Who's going to clean the rooms in Vegas?

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[bzparkes]

How is the below 'definitive proof' by the way?

Tax Contributions​

Do undocumented immigrants pay taxes?​

Undocumented immigrants play a crucial role in the U.S. economy, not only through their labor but also through substantial tax contributions that support public services and government programs.

• In 2022, households led by undocumented immigrants paid $75.6B in total taxes. This includes $29.0B in state and local taxes and $46.6B in federal taxes.
• In 2022, approximately 4.5% of the U.S. workforce was undocumented.
• 89.8% of undocumented immigrants are of working age.

Our Map the Impact tool shows the tax contributions of immigrants at the national, state and local level.

 

[bzparkes]

Who's going to clean the rooms in Vegas?

 

[Royces Hart]

My understanding is that you need a social security number to pay tax in the USA.

Individual taxpayer identification number (ITIN) | Internal Revenue Service

An ITIN is a 9-digit number the IRS issues if you need a U.S. taxpayer identification number for federal tax purposes, but you aren’t eligible for a Social Security number (SSN). Find if you need one and how to apply.

www.irs.gov

 

[Gough]

To paraphrase Lip Gallagher, jobs for people where English isn't their first language and it's an entire class over there now. Trump is now trying to deny the existence of it despite being more than happy to hire from that particular pool of workers.

 

[Satan]

Individual taxpayer identification number (ITIN) | Internal Revenue Service

An ITIN is a 9-digit number the IRS issues if you need a U.S. taxpayer identification number for federal tax purposes, but you aren’t eligible for a Social Security number (SSN). Find if you need one and how to apply.

www.irs.gov

So you dont need a social security number after all to pay tax

 

[Spearman]

I hadn't realized the PM was female. Oh I just bet that call went swimmingly.

 

[ShadowCat]

Definitive proof

What source would you consider definitive? Does it have to be Fox News approved?

Just as a little educational piece, .org sites are trustworthy enough to be used in academic theses/essays etc. A dot org is usually a registered organisation that is a non-profit, that is designed to provide some sort of information relative to their purpose as a website.

If you don't trust a dot org site, there's nothing you'll trust, unless it confirms your implicit bias to your own logic.