Traded Adam Cerra traded to Carlton for pick #6 and F3

[LongJohnStone]

Setterfield netted GWS two second round picks didn't he? Schache was pick #2 and cost a second and third when he left after two seasons. Aish was pick #7 and got two seconds when he left after two years. Scrimshaw got a third round pick upgrade after two seasons. Ebert was a pick #13 and was traded for a 2nd and a 3rd after four seasons. Sydney accepted a teens pick for Mitchell.

I think he's worth more than a top 10 pick right now. I think that's all you'd be able to negotiate for.

Literally every single one of those players except for Mitchell was a bust.
Mitchell was traded for a first rounder because Sydney was under cap pressure.

 

[Daka]

Pick 6 and pick 7 is two first rounders, pick 12 and pick 18 is also two first rounders, one is worth about 3 times as much as the other. Saying he's not worth "two first rounders" doesnt mean much. I'm confident if you did land him, you wont have a first round pick this year.

His value is closer to that of Treloar from GWS (who was also traded after 4 years), then any of the other players mentioned here

We gave up pick 6 for Dion Prestia everyone said we paid overs for that. I doubt we'd pay too much more than that points wise.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

We gave up pick 6 for Dion Prestia everyone said we paid overs for that. I doubt we'd pay too much more than that points wise.

My memory is that everyone said that's what you'll pay and its a fair price but you were probably more invested so remember better.

Pointswise means little when you get that high, there is like a 30-40% premium to move up high. For example, it would likely cost pick 12 and 18 to move to pick 6.

 

[Joao]

Setterfield netted GWS two second round picks didn't he? Schache was pick #2 and cost a second and third when he left after two seasons. Aish was pick #7 and got two seconds when he left after two years. Scrimshaw got a third round pick upgrade after two seasons. Ebert was a pick #13 and was traded for a 2nd and a 3rd after four seasons. Sydney accepted a teens pick for Mitchell.

I think he's worth more than a top 10 pick right now. I think that's all you'd be able to negotiate for.

JFC, could you have come up with a more irrelevant list of players? You'd swear you've never actually watched football but just read some wiki pages and thought you had a good feel for it.

 

[rgauci]

Given the choice between keeping Cerra and getting Shai Bolton. I’d choose Cerra every single time. Cerra is pure class, has height, knows where to find the ball. Durable. Is almost a year younger than Bolton and has finished top 3 in our best and fairest the year he turned 21. Bolton has the dazzle but is the icing not the cake. Fremantle needs the cake. Bolton would be like Des Headland in our side. I’m not saying Bolton can’t perform in a poor side, he’s great, but I wouldn’t trade Cerra for him. One kids in night clubs fighting and the other is captain material.

 

[Charlie Pannam]

Given the choice between keeping Cerra and getting Shai Bolton. I’d choose Cerra every single time. Cerra is pure class, has height, knows where to find the ball. Durable. Is almost a year younger than Bolton and has finished top 3 in our best and fairest the year he turned 21. Bolton has the dazzle but is the icing not the cake. Fremantle needs the cake. Bolton would be like Des Headland in our side. I’m not saying Bolton can’t perform in a poor side, he’s great, but I wouldn’t trade Cerra for him. One kids in night clubs fighting and the other is captain material.

Ok I’m obviously biased but Bolton well and truely has Cerra covered.
Shai is a dynamic mid inside and outside, is quick, evasive and great overhead. Also a very dangerous small forward.

He was instrumental last year when we had injuries to key mids in winning us 50/50 games and his finals performance including GF was top shelf.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Bolton for Cerra is a fairly even straight swap tbh as an unbiased party

 

[tiger_tough]

Bolton for Cerra is a fairly even straight swap tbh as an unbiased party

We'll have both....

 

[Jcpdragonx]

Cerra is not on Boltons level at the moment but has a lot of scope. I don't think either club would want to do a straight swap.

 

[THE_GUN]

You do realise dusty had no individual honours in an average team in his first 5 years.
cerra is halfway through his 4th year.
Cerra was pick 5 and looking every bit of that.
Even an an unknown pick 5 will get you 2 late first in a pick swap.
The uneducated talk down of cerra is funny

You not getting pick 5 or better for Cerra

The unknown pick 5 doesnt want to go home - yet

 

[db26]

Given the choice between keeping Cerra and getting Shai Bolton. I’d choose Cerra every single time. Cerra is pure class, has height, knows where to find the ball. Durable. Is almost a year younger than Bolton and has finished top 3 in our best and fairest the year he turned 21. Bolton has the dazzle but is the icing not the cake. Fremantle needs the cake. Bolton would be like Des Headland in our side. I’m not saying Bolton can’t perform in a poor side, he’s great, but I wouldn’t trade Cerra for him. One kids in night clubs fighting and the other is captain material.

Headland had nothing Bolton got I never rated him one bit.

 

[rgauci]

Headland had nothing Bolton got I never rated him one bit.

Never? Not even end of 2002 when he came 6th in the brownlow as a 21 year old in his 4th season in the afl.

 

[db26]

Never? Not even end of 2002 when he came 6th in the brownlow as a 21 year old in his 4th season in the afl.

Each to there own he was surrounded by stars at the Lions and when he got to Freo did nothing very average.

 

[Freoforever86]

You not getting pick 5 or better for Cerra

The unknown pick 5 doesnt want to go home - yet

we may.. we may not.
One thing for sure, is that if he chooses to go home, all 10 clubs will make offers.
Who ever he chooses will get it done. Teams won’t let a guy like Cerra get away, even if it means paying a touch over.

people worry about the draft picks too much. I’ll take a known commodity like Cerra based on his output and his age any day over a speculative top 5 pick.

obviously you get your sure things like Rowell, but they are rare.

 

[Big Flappy]

Each to there own he was surrounded by stars at the Lions and when he got to Freo did nothing very average.

thats the point

 

[Morro]

Pick 6 and pick 7 is two first rounders, pick 12 and pick 18 is also two first rounders, one is worth about 3 times as much as the other. Saying he's not worth "two first rounders" doesnt mean much. I'm confident if you did land him, you wont have a first round pick this year.

His value is closer to that of Treloar from GWS (who was also traded after 4 years), then any of the other players mentioned here

I didnt mention any other players? Someone else mentioned Dusty.

Treloar was an out and out Jet when traded from GWS, That comparison is not even close.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Each to there own he was surrounded by stars at the Lions and when he got to Freo did nothing very average.

That is also a risk with Bolton.

 

[tiger_tough]

That is also a risk with Bolton.

Bolton has always stepped up when the senior guys have missed.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Pick 6 and pick 7 is two first rounders, pick 12 and pick 18 is also two first rounders, one is worth about 3 times as much as the other. Saying he's not worth "two first rounders" doesnt mean much. I'm confident if you did land him, you wont have a first round pick this year.

His value is closer to that of Treloar from GWS (who was also traded after 4 years), then any of the other players mentioned here

No doubt our "better" 1st rnd pick would be part of the deal.
Personally i'd give you both our 1sts this year.
We have plenty of cover afterwoods with a few 2nd & 3rd rnd picks plus any of our other players being traded{CCJ/Caddy}.

 

[Smythe]

Cerra would be a nice Cotchin replacement....just saying

was hinting this to everyone early feb...feb 15 actually.....just saying

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Carlton would be offering more than Richmond, if he does go you would think we aren't the favourites.

I know he does barrack for us as a kid but that doesn't mean anything.

If he's going for Money.Blues & North favorites.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Bolton has always stepped up when the senior guys have missed.

Cerra has played plenty of good footy without a heap of senior talent around him.

I think both are comparable.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

we may.. we may not.
One thing for sure, is that if he chooses to go home, all 10 clubs will make offers.
Who ever he chooses will get it done. Teams won’t let a guy like Cerra get away, even if it means paying a touch over.

people worry about the draft picks too much. I’ll take a known commodity like Cerra based on his output and his age any day over a speculative top 5 pick.

obviously you get your sure things like Rowell, but they are rare.

Agree.

 

[tiger_tough]

Cerra has played plenty of good footy without a heap of senior talent around him.

I think both are comparable.

Yeah it was in refernce to the comparrison with Headland, not Cerra.

 

[LongJohnStone]

I didnt mention any other players? Someone else mentioned Dusty.

Treloar was an out and out Jet when traded from GWS, That comparison is not even close.

If he goes to Richmond, it will be two first rounders. Simple as that.