Coach Adam Simpson Megathread est. 2017 - Staying for 2024, Lyon’s Cryin’

[squashface]

I recall in 2004 when Neil Craig took over Adelaide Crow from Gary Ayre, he claimed that there is no need to go to the bottom to rebuild.
In 2005, Adelaide Crow was the minor premier jumping from the 12th poistion in 2004. Don Pyke was the assistant coach to Neil Criag in 2005.

It appears that anything good that has ever happened in football can be attributed to the lord and saviour, Don Pyke.

Except for the complete and utter destruction of the Adelaide Football Club post 2017, of course

 

[FKASC]

I think he has done a great job up till 2018, but post 2018 things have wained and each season since it's seems to be getting worse.
He is a good coach and as you rightly point out, history shows that, can he make the necessary changes to his game plan to move this group forward ??? .... now - thats the pertinent question.
That said I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt and let's see what 2022 has to offer.

While the current situation frustrates and annoys the **** out of me I am not advocating that he be sacked, however a direct and firm ultimatum needs to be delivered to him to rectify the situation otherwise the Club has no alternative than to make the necessary coaching adjustments to move forward.

I think most on here would agree that with the talent on our list, that Simpson has at his disposal, these last three seasons has not performed anywhere near it's capacity.

In many ways, the current plight we face as a Club has been a byproduct of our success, in so much as our competitive advantage has lead to other teams counteracting and neutralising our strength. In our glory period, under Simpson, we as a team have ruled the air and our overhead contested marking has been the dominant benchmark : Kennedy Darling and Ryan in the forward line and McGovern, Barrass and Hurn in defence have been second to none.

In many ways it's a copycat league and other teams have adopted similar games styles and delivery as we did, so other teams have developed strategies to counter this style and each year since 2018, across the competition teams have become better and more effective at negating this game style.

One of the ways teams counteract our defences now, is to bring the ball in super quickly and keep it low so that the likes of McGovern, Barrass and Hurn don't have the opportunity to pick of the long bomb into their forward line, similarly opposition defences now put in extra effort to block our key forwards leading lanes and destroy the ball in the air before our forwards clunk the mark.
This has been very successful and the fact that we don't have strong crumbers has assisted oppositions to negate our forward thrusts.
Of course our slow ball movement into our forward line play right into their plans.

Much has already been said about our very predictable set ups from kick ins ........ we are just so predictable that its comical and easy for opposition teams week after week to counteract and plot against our kick in structures and we wonder why it's hard to get the ball out of our defensive half.

I could go on but with more examples of predictable play, that is just so easy to coach and plot against.

Other than players which is a given : In theory a coach needs three things to effectively win games:

1. A definitive game plan thats communicated to all players so that they are all on the same page.
2. Strategies to implement the game plan, as flexibility and styles need a tweek depending on the competition, weather and conditions.
3. Tactics within the strategies, creating mismatches and a variety of set plays, to utalise effort and mix up the method so as to avoid predictability.

Simpson has tinkered with 2 and 3 of the above in the last two seasons, but that has only got him so far, because - 1. his game plan needs a serious overhaul, as its been worked out, plotted against and its demise mastered by most teams.



I don't think the majority on here are airbrushing out a period of a really strong football, in fact, most here acknowledge and applaud the period of dominance and success.

As far as people being split on what to do and where to go from here, thats a pretty fair concern to be honest, as the last two years performances, in particulars, have left a lot to be desired and have produced a bitter after taste of underachievement and not ceasing the day.

Simpson has shown in the past that he has the capacity to analytically devise and implement a new and successful game plan, he NOW needs to urgently do that, his number 1 priority over the post season is to right a badly listing ship otherwise both the team and he are sunk.

Making it difficult for him is the recruitment decisions the club has made around him. Our ability to somehow jag a couple of absolute guns in the draft - Port Adelaide 2018 style - could be a defining moment in his career.

 

[Balls In]

Well the current coach is contracted until 2024 so he ain’t going anywhere. Is it essential that we bring in a new one, or can the current one implement the new game plan and add role players over the offseason?

Look I like Simmo and applaud everything he has done for the club but yes, I really do think its essential that we get a new coach. In addition to this hideous game plan he's got us playing he is also too close to the player group. Everything is stale and stodgy and won't change under Simpson. The players like but don't respect him. The age demographic of the list demands it be done now.

 

[Monocle]

Making it difficult for him is the recruitment decisions the club has made around him. Our ability to somehow jag a couple of absolute guns in the draft - Port Adelaide 2018 style - could be a defining moment in his career.

Sure while that would help it wont alter us much without the game plan changing.

No matter how much skill the new recruits have our obsession with Barrass, Rotham, McGovern, Cole and company, playing kick to kick for five minutes each quarter in the back half still hurts us.

 

[flyinghi64]

Wow that Sheed interview, circle work anyone?
They can't try any harder week in week out as they try their hardest all the time, just sometimes they lack the energy.
W.T.F !!

 

[southcoast]

Just on Sheeds tripe.

Thinking that will appease 100k members after the last few weeks & last Saturday, in particular. Shows how out of touch the club is.

The bigger question is where are the elected/nominated leaders in this? Shuey? Gov? Kennedy?

Their absence from the ‘blow-torch’ is very telling.


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[EagleEgo]

Wow that Sheed interview, circle work anyone?
They can't try any harder week in week out as they try their hardest all the time, just sometimes they lack the energy.
W.T.F !!

I dont understand how he can argue lack of energy is not the same as lack of effort.
Sorry to be a bit technical:
1. Effort is defined as: "conscious exertion of power"
2. Power = Energy/time
3. For the duration of an AFL game, time is constant.
4. Hence Power is directly porportional to Energy.
5. This means Lack of Energy is Lack of Power is Lack of Effort.

 

[RookiePick]

I dont undetstand how he can argue lack of energy is not the same as lack of effort.
Sorry to be a bit technical:
1. Effort is defined as: "conscious exertion of power"
2. Power = Energy/time
3. For the duration of an AFL game, time is constant.
4. Hence Power is directly porportional to Energy.
5. This means Lack of Energy is Lack of Power is Lack of Effort.

 

[Gods_Son23]

Sheed.. lol. I wonder if someone from the club told him to say that crap. If so, cut them at the end of the season too.

Is he blaming the club's dieticians?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

I think my stance on Simmo’s future has been made pretty clear by now, but wherever you fall on the question of what we do going forward, let’s not go rewriting history.

2018 we were great, we did not simply get hot at the right time, we won 10 straight games to (essentially) open the season and finished a rightful second.

It also wasn’t a one season wonder, despite the (fair at the time) sentiment that we were absolutely on the decline post 2017.

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Going forward, I understand people are split on what to do and where to next. But let’s not airbrush a really strong period of football because it appears to be coming to an end.

We won a flag, outside of 2018 with our list it has been pretty woeful. Hardly a strong period removing the flag. Very disappointing period in my eyes and makes it worse that we won a flag in this time. Happy about that though

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Look I like Simmo and applaud everything he has done for the club but yes, just my opinion (and I hope I'm proved wrong if we stick with him) I really do think its absolutely essential that we get a new coach. In addition to this hideous game plan he's got us playing he is also too close to the player group. Everything is stale and stodgy and won't change under Simpson. The players like but don't respect him. The age demographic of the list demands it be done now.

Pretty much anyone could get it sorted if he is given the next 3 years plus.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

I think he has done a great job up till 2018, but post 2018 things have wained and each season since it's seems to be getting worse.
He is a good coach and as you rightly point out, history shows that, can he make the necessary changes to his game plan to move this group forward ??? .... now - thats the pertinent question.
That said I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt and let's see what 2022 has to offer.

While the current situation frustrates and annoys the **** out of me I am not advocating that he be sacked, however a direct and firm ultimatum needs to be delivered to him to rectify the situation otherwise the Club has no alternative than to make the necessary coaching adjustments to move forward.

I think most on here would agree that with the talent on our list, that Simpson has at his disposal, these last three seasons has not performed anywhere near it's capacity.

In many ways, the current plight we face as a Club has been a byproduct of our success, in so much as our competitive advantage has lead to other teams counteracting and neutralising our strength. In our glory period, under Simpson, we as a team have ruled the air and our overhead contested marking has been the dominant benchmark : Kennedy Darling and Ryan in the forward line and McGovern, Barrass and Hurn in defence have been second to none.

In many ways it's a copycat league and other teams have adopted similar games styles and delivery as we did, so other teams have developed strategies to counter this style and each year since 2018, across the competition teams have become better and more effective at negating this game style.

One of the ways teams counteract our defences now, is to bring the ball in super quickly and keep it low so that the likes of McGovern, Barrass and Hurn don't have the opportunity to pick of the long bomb into their forward line, similarly opposition defences now put in extra effort to block our key forwards leading lanes and destroy the ball in the air before our forwards clunk the mark.
This has been very successful and the fact that we don't have strong crumbers has assisted oppositions to negate our forward thrusts.
Of course our slow ball movement into our forward line play right into their plans.

Much has already been said about our very predictable set ups from kick ins ........ we are just so predictable that its comical and easy for opposition teams week after week to counteract and plot against our kick in structures and we wonder why it's hard to get the ball out of our defensive half.

I could go on but with more examples of predictable play, that is just so easy to coach and plot against.

Other than players which is a given : In theory a coach needs three things to effectively win games:

1. A definitive game plan thats communicated to all players so that they are all on the same page.
2. Strategies to implement the game plan, as flexibility and styles need a tweek depending on the competition, weather and conditions.
3. Tactics within the strategies, creating mismatches and a variety of set plays, to utalise effort and mix up the method so as to avoid predictability.

Simpson has tinkered with 2 and 3 of the above in the last two seasons, but that has only got him so far, because - 1. his game plan needs a serious overhaul, as its been worked out, plotted against and its demise mastered by most teams.



I don't think the majority on here are airbrushing out a period of a really strong football, in fact, most here acknowledge and applaud the period of dominance and success.

As far as people being split on what to do and where to go from here, thats a pretty fair concern to be honest, as the last two years performances, in particulars, have left a lot to be desired and have produced a bitter after taste of underachievement and not ceasing the day.

Simpson has shown in the past that he has the capacity to analytically devise and implement a new and successful game plan, he NOW needs to urgently do that, his number 1 priority over the post season is to right a badly listing ship otherwise both the team and he are sunk.

Nice post mate

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Very disappointing period in my eyes and makes it worse that we won a flag in this time. Happy about that though

It’s more disappointing that we won a flag than if we’d not?

 

[FKASC]

Sure while that would help it wont alter us much without the game plan changing.

No matter how much skill the new recruits have our obsession with Barrass, Rotham, McGovern, Cole and company, playing kick to kick for five minutes each quarter in the back half still hurts us.

Of course - my point was premised on him overhauling the gameplan. If he doesn’t address that, then no amount of recruitment will make a difference

 

[FKASC]

 

[ziad]

Just on Sheeds tripe.

Thinking that will appease 100k members after the last few weeks & last Saturday, in particular. Shows how out of touch the club is.

The bigger question is where are the elected/nominated leaders in this? Shuey? Gov? Kennedy?

Their absence from the ‘blow-torch’ is very telling.


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Mmm
Spoke to an aging lady who is a member and attends every game. She doesnt have a footy background. Her observation after the pies game - there is something wrong IN the club.

The cat is out of the bag.

 

[kaiserchief13]

If Nisbitt isn’t going to sort this sh*t out, we’ve got no choice but to storm head office and promote kaiserchief13 to the throne by force. Then we’ll see some changes goddammit

Who was the one who said trade Gaff and McGovern last year?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

It’s more disappointing that we won a flag than if we’d not?

No I am just saying don’t make it sound like we have been a contender for a period of time. We contended and won in 2018, since then we have been below poor in performance based on the standards we ourselves set.
We basically had one good year in 2018

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Who was the one who said trade Gaff and McGovern last year?

I said trade McGovern for a few years now.

 

[Balls In]

Pretty much anyone could get it sorted if he is given the next 3 years plus.

In three years time this list will actually be toast and looking at our 50-100 gamers that rebuild looks like it might be long and painful. Thats part of the reason why we need a coach to have one last tilt.

 

[kaiserchief13]

I said trade McGovern for a few years now.

I bow to my master

 

[bh90210fan]

Who was the one who said trade Gaff and McGovern last year?

still a shit idea, don’t worry about it

 

[HoneyBadger35]

No I am just saying don’t make it sound like we have been a contender for a period of time. We contended and won in 2018, since then we have been below poor in performance based on the standards we ourselves set.
We basically had one good year in 2018

We have been below standard since 2018.

The post you were replying to explicitly shows that we didn’t just have one good year out of the blue in 2018. It was the culmination of continuing to throw one’s hat in the ring and being consistently good for years.

 

[ziad]

We have been below standard since 2018.

The post you were replying to explicitly shows that we didn’t just have one good year out of the blue in 2018. It was the culmination of continuing to throw one’s hat in the ring and being consistently good for years.

The problems we have now are not new. I am sure the reasons are multiple not justa simple single reason. For a start I will be interested to see at seasons end who is in for surgury and who has been badly hampered by injury.

It will also be good to see the Clubs responce across all areas.

Until then I will enjoy the speculation and wild and at times illogical ideas on here.

My uninformed gut feeling is that there are deeper issues.

 

[swingdog]

Wow that Sheed interview, circle work anyone?
They can't try any harder week in week out as they try their hardest all the time, just sometimes they lack the energy.
W.T.F !!

How is this all playing in the media in Perth? Are they applying the blow-torch?