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The A League wouldnt be happy with only 21,000 for the Sydney V Perth final at SFS and even if todays Victory game gets a full house at AAMI it will only be 30,000 obviously with the AFL now using Docklands and the G for H&A matches today that was not an option for the soccer.
Prices last night were a joke. FFA Greed as normal. Cheapest tickets (Corner flags) were $54 for Adult and $38 for a Child. If you wanted any seat with a decent view it was $64Ad, $44Ch & $123Family. Not good for a game which you need the casual fan to attend.

Victory are a different kettle of fish. 26,100 odd members which most will attend no matter how much the FFA shaft the fans.
 
Prices last night were a joke. FFA Greed as normal. Cheapest tickets (Corner flags) were $54 for Adult and $38 for a Child. If you wanted any seat with a decent view it was $64Ad, $44Ch & $123Family. Not good for a game which you need the casual fan to attend.

That doesn't really seem excessive TBH. That's about the cost of tickets to watch the Swans for just a regular season match.
 

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That doesn't really seem excessive TBH. That's about the cost of tickets to watch the Swans for just a regular season match.
My point is when Sydney FC only have 14k rusted on fans and you want to get 25-30k to a finals match charging the prices they did is ridiculous.
 
My point is when Sydney FC only have 14k rusted on fans and you want to get 25-30k to a finals match charging the prices they did is ridiculous.

If they halve the prices they might get an extra couple of thousand at the gate but lose hundreds of thousands at the box office.

Bear in mind A-League clubs are privately owned for profit ventures. There's a lot more pressure on the bottom line when it's actually the owners' pockets that are at risk.
 
If they halve the prices they might get an extra couple of thousand at the gate but lose hundreds of thousands at the box office.

Bear in mind A-League clubs are privately owned for profit ventures. There's a lot more pressure on the bottom line when it's actually the owners' pockets that are at risk.

True, although I think the FFA pockets all the revenue from finals games.
 
Only 20,000 at the soccer final at AAMI today best the A League finish their season well before the AFL,NRL and RU start theirs as they clearly cannot compete for crowds against the big boys.
 
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Only 20,000 at the soccer final at AAMI today best the A League finish their season well before the AFL,NRL and RU start theirs as they clearly cannot compete fo crowds.

I turned over to watch it , i thought it was boring as batshit and lacking in skill.

yet they tell me it its the beautiful game.

deliberately kicking the ball as far as possible out on the full, missing easy passes, everyone going to head it and everyone missing it

:rolleyes:
 
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After 9 Rounds of the 2017 NRL Season, Attendances remain down -5%. (1,129,427 at 15,686 ave, 2016 - 1,187,424 at 16,492). R9 up 1% on 2016.

7:01 PM - 30 Apr 2017

The boys over at LU wont be happy chappies considering they were told and expected to be averaging 20,000 per game by now!
Apparently the weather has been pretty bad during the NRL games as per usual :p
 
IMO that is just another weak excuse trotted out by RL fans, the NRL would be desperate to get as many to games as possible.

IMO the RL demographic in general just do not give a stuff about attending.

Weather, traffic, the NRL itself, it is everyone and everything rather than the fans.
It is a bit of a chicken and the egg type argument.

The easier money is in tv revenue, because the NRL didnt have as strong an attendance / membership culture as other sports.

The NRL then schedule matches on every Thursday night, friday at 6pm. Even the block buster SOO is on a wednesday night purely for tv purposes.

Meanwhile most saturday afternoons go past without a match.

Additionally if you were not in Sydney during march commenting on the weather during march is just ignorant.

This is not an excuse but a reality, in the NRL, the clubs have far to much say, with that say they push for decisions that benefit them but do not benefit the game as a whole. While on the other hand, the AFL have strong control over there clubs, which helps when it comes to building the sport as a whole....
 

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Just knocked up an interesting chart based on yesterdays ratings

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Should highlight that the chart makes some assumptions, almost all certainly incorrect, about the distribution of average ratings across the course of the game. What is does highlight is the the degree which the AFL is stronger in the norther cities than the NRL is in the Southern ones

Average rating comparisons between the NRL and the AFL are misleading as the latter goes for 50% longer, and most matches overlap at least to some extent. When represented across a timeline however, it is clear just how much more popular the AFL is in the northern states in a relative sense.

Though you suspect some of the AFL teams playing yesterday would have significant expat support in Sydney and Brisbane (Collingwood, bombers, tigers, crows), not one of the northern teams were playing. In the 4 oclock game in the NRL the melbourne storm played the dragons in a top of the table clash and the Warriors played the earlier game, who I suspect can draw on big communities in Melbourne and Perth
 
Only 20,000 at the soccer final at AAMI today best the A League finish their season well before the AFL,NRL and RU start theirs as they clearly cannot compete for crowds against the big boys.
And... do you think there will be under 20,000 at the A-league Grand final between Sydney fc vs Melbourne Victory on sunday?
 

Another 2 games that have just managed to make it over the 10k mark.

By my calculations that makes it about 16 games that have just made it over the 10 -11k mark and only 2 in the 9k range and one of them was in NZ.

Also interesting is the round figures, round one makes interesting reading, every round makes it over 100k, but round 1 is 100,435.

Round 5 102,000
 
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And... do you think there will be under 20,000 at the A-league Grand final between Sydney fc vs Melbourne Victory on sunday?

It will be pretty shocking if it gets less than 40,000 for the beautiful game!
I would have thought they would have needed to play such an important match at the 83,000 ANZ Stadium it is a GF after all.
 
Another 2 games that have just managed to make it over the 10k mark.

By my calculations that makes it about 16 games that have just made it over the 10 -11k mark and only 2 in the 9k range and one of them was in NZ.

Also interesting is the round figures, round one makes interesting reading, every round makes it over 100k, but round 1 is 100,435.

Round 5 102,000
Sounds like it needs your support not hate!
 
:D, yep fair enough.

Of course i am not making any claims here, just simply pointing out some weird coincidences.

You are free to draw your own conclusions.

I think there are bigger issues that you're ignoring

The size of the grounds most clubs played at we a lot closer to 10k than 70k, so that would have encouraged a tranditional level of support around that level

Also sydney is a ****ed up bitch to travel around, so youre much more likely to only go to the games if its in your local area. This therefore reduces significantly the catchment of potential attendees at some grounds.

Add to this the over reliance of leagues clubs meant there was no push to develop attendances or membership until recent years, and the sacrificing of everything to appease the c9 gods.
 
I think there are bigger issues that you're ignoring

The size of the grounds most clubs played at we a lot closer to 10k than 70k, so that would have encouraged a tranditional level of support around that level

Also sydney is a ****** up bitch to travel around, so youre much more likely to only go to the games if its in your local area. This therefore reduces significantly the catchment of potential attendees at some grounds.

Add to this the over reliance of leagues clubs meant there was no push to develop attendances or membership until recent years, and the sacrificing of everything to appease the c9 gods.

I think garlic is highlighting the statistical unlikelihood of so many crowds ending up between 10k to 11k when there have been only a couple just under
 
I think garlic is highlighting the statistical unlikelihood of so many crowds ending up between 10k to 11k when there have been only a couple just under

And im pointing out why that outcome isnt unlikely as he suggests

5 nrl grounds have a capacity of 20-22.5k, and and additional 5 are 30k or less

So a 10-15k attendance at these grounds is around half full, which isnt exactly shocking given the lack of push to boost attendances (until recent years) shit logistics, shit parking, and for several of them shit stadiums.

The fact these are historic averages also makes it more likely they are true - past regimes wouldnt have cared to bother ****ing with them tbh
 
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