2nds AFC 2022 SANFL Thread

[hey shorty]

Maybe mcasey was dropped back to the amo's to find some form. Not sure about mcpherson.

Both the flu I believe

 

[LeftyLuke]

The most perennially overrated player on bigfooty

Does have a fair amount of talent though which we lack but he’s not ready , needs more time with Burgo

I'm not sure Burgo can fix all of his deficiencies.

 

[LeftyLuke]

Is this the only game ypu have watched. Has been good for last two seasons. Normally a strong performer

The concern I have will borlase is his lack of pace. I don't think he will make it along with mcasey who I'm certain will not make it. You can throw Frampton and Worrell in the same pile which means we must trade in a decent KPD from another club as a matter of urgency. If Butts and Murray went down god forbid we are completely stuffed.

 

[Carmo]

Not a good day but he's been pretty handy all season

He's been getting better and better until 3-4 weeks ago and since then he's been on a pretty bad downhill run. I dunno how much to take away from how he looked tonight, we did our dry weather seniors system and that needs the mid to pretty much break even or the forwards and defenders look terrible because of the breakdown. We got soundly beaten in there so who knows how to read it.

 

[Carmo]

Yeh the umpires cost us the game, it’s the sanfl’s fault we were shite…. Blah blah blah …. I want my dummy back…. Waaah


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No one's saying the umpires cost us the game but we are saying it is biased.

What about those stats showing the free kick differential over a couple of years.... all the normal SANFL teams, they're all pretty close, then port was like -200 and crows were like -500.

Theyre biased. I'm not even too bothered about that, i can accept the SANFL looking after their own, especially when weve got a strong team and they're doing evener uppers, but when it gets to "beyond farcical" it gets a bit annoying.

 

[Carmo]

With a few omissions we were a fair bit down on our normal roster and that hurt a bit.

I see a lot of people commenting here about the lack of form of some players and some of it is warranted (Pedlar) and some of it makes me wonder whether they've watched the games, especially recent ones. (McAsey).

On Pedlar, his main issue seems to be not getting enough of the ball. He might be relatively unfit, he looks like that at times where he drops away from following a contest even more than Strachany. Its hard to tell though, perhaps he's carrying an injury. I also think we look to have gone back more to doing the tap it down to the ruckmans feet and force a contest more in the SANFL in the last few weeks (one wonders if that was a product of us going away from that at AFL level there for a few weeks (most notably GWS game?). So that's going to make all our mids look pretty bad and none looked particularly good tonight, Taylor was around it but just couldn't get anything clean. Schoenberg was the best but he finished with less possessions that perenially low possession getters Chayce Jones

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Chayce Jones

Age

24

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.7

2star

T

1.9

4star

MG

178.6

3star

D

8.9

2star

K

4.9

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.4

2star

T

1.6

3star

MG

143.3

3star

D

9.4

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

175.0

3star

and Cook.

Anyway, was frustrated at watching the game and how it played out, but after calming down, with our gameplan, with us losing a fair roster of AFL guys, with us playing our dry weather AFL level game even in pouring rain, with a young team, with one sided umpiring, it probably wasnt that bad of a result.

 

[Crow till I die]

With a few omissions we were a fair bit down on our normal roster and that hurt a bit.

I see a lot of people commenting here about the lack of form of some players and some of it is warranted (Pedlar) and some of it makes me wonder whether they've watched the games, especially recent ones. (McAsey).

On Pedlar, his main issue seems to be not getting enough of the ball. He might be relatively unfit, he looks like that at times where he drops away from following a contest even more than Strachany. Its hard to tell though, perhaps he's carrying an injury. I also think we look to have gone back more to doing the tap it down to the ruckmans feet and force a contest more in the SANFL in the last few weeks (one wonders if that was a product of us going away from that at AFL level there for a few weeks (most notably GWS game?). So that's going to make all our mids look pretty bad and none looked particularly good tonight, Taylor was around it but just couldn't get anything clean. Schoenberg was the best but he finished with less possessions that perenially low possession getters Chayce Jones and Cook.

Anyway, was frustrated at watching the game and how it played out, but after calming down, with our gameplan, with us losing a fair roster of AFL guys, with us playing our dry weather AFL level game even in pouring rain, with a young team, with one sided umpiring, it probably wasnt that bad of a result.

Would pedlar benefit from being taken out ofthe SANFL side todo a mid season mini preseason something like tex did a while back. It might help him to an improved end of season leading into a big off season to get ready for next year. Play the long game as this year should be a development year

 

[Mutineer]

Should see Thebby Oval today....mudpile...

 

[aabp1978]

I get the feeling with Pedlar that it is really a Hatley type of scenairo...just hampered by injury. With an injury free pre-season I think we will see something...

I'm not sure Burgo can fix all of his deficiencies

 

[Mutineer]

Blizzard conditions at Thebby now..Can't say I've seen worse playing conditions than this...lights on now..

 

[cleanhands]

Blizzard conditions at Thebby now..Can't say I've seen worse playing conditions than this...lights on now..

I’m sure you have at The Parade

 

[Magma]

i assume conditions are lovely at oval avenue too, south with 94 tackles to half time

 

[morris086]

i assume conditions are lovely at oval avenue too, south with 94 tackles to half time

Far out South with 200 tackles WWT with 139

 

[hey shorty]

28 to 27 final score

Great game to have on TV

 

[hugecannon]

How many tackles in the end??

 

[hey shorty]

327

 

[brucetiki]

i assume conditions are lovely at oval avenue too, south with 94 tackles to half time

Yep - absolute mud pile.

They may no longer have a proper visitors coaches box, or a surface that is up to SANFL standard, but they have lights

 

[Bazz_27]

Someone talk to me about Newchurch. From what i've seen he looks dangerous around goals and more or less averages around 2 goals a game. He is pretty quick from what I can tell as well and appears to have upped his tackling (more Mcadam level than Mchenry). Am I missing something? We don't need him to have 15 touches a game

 

[LeftyLuke]

Someone talk to me about Newchurch. From what i've seen he looks dangerous around goals and more or less averages around 2 goals a game. He is pretty quick from what I can tell as well and appears to have upped his tackling (more Mcadam level than Mchenry). Am I missing something? We don't need him to have 15 touches a game

Nicks doesn't care about class, skill and players that can kick goals. He feels that pressure alone will kick goals regardless how unskilled the player is. That's why Cook isn't in the side for starters. It's also why he puts out best and most skilled player in Dawson in a lockdown role down back where he is totally wasted. Newchurch should be getting a game. Unfortunately we have to put up with this shit until he is sacked either this year or next.

We should have Tex, McAdam, Fogarty, Cook, Newchurch, Gollant, Rachele in our forward line. That forward line can win games. Play Thithorpe further up the group if his form warrants it.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Someone talk to me about Newchurch. From what i've seen he looks dangerous around goals and more or less averages around 2 goals a game. He is pretty quick from what I can tell as well and appears to have upped his tackling (more Mcadam level than Mchenry). Am I missing something? We don't need him to have 15 touches a game

Shouldve been a lock for Saturday’s game.. was the perfect time to bring him in..

Home game against a bottom side in conditions that were more suitable to the smaller forwards.

But no.. we left him to wallow in the seconds..

Whilst our small forwards in Rowe, Murph and mchenry continued to provide **** all..

Tariak has kicked more goals in the sanfl than these other three blokes have kicked combined all bloody year!..

He’s also upped the parts of his game that were weaknesses last year.. second efforts, getting more involved and tackling/tackling pressure.. they were his weaknesses.. he hasnt completely erradicated them from his game but he’s improved on them markedly.. an 80-90% improvement.

Deserved a call up..

yet another dumb list management and selection call from this usless club.

 

[Gtowncrow]

Someone talk to me about Newchurch. From what i've seen he looks dangerous around goals and more or less averages around 2 goals a game. He is pretty quick from what I can tell as well and appears to have upped his tackling (more Mcadam level than Mchenry). Am I missing something? We don't need him to have 15 touches a game

I'd like to see him play against the Suns alongside Rachel, McAdam and the talls. It simply must translate to a higher scoring forward line.

 

[hey shorty]

I'd like to see him play against the Suns alongside Rachel, McAdam and the talls. It simply must translate to a higher scoring forward line.

It probably wont though

 

[BRL121]

I'd like to see him play against the Suns alongside Rachel, McAdam and the talls. It simply must translate to a higher scoring forward line.

I think that many recommending the promotion of Newchurch have not watched him closely enough. Admittedly, he can kick a few goals, but his MO is that he does very little apart from that. Can we afford zero effort/output apart from a couple of opportunities in the square?

To be fair, in exactly one SANFL game this year he played a complete game, with running, tackling, and goalkicking, so he can do it, but that was a big exception. I think he needs to stay in SANFL until he is more consistent with effort. I'm sure we don't want to see him spend an AFL game mostly ball/opponent watching and choosing when to go.

 

[DJ75]

Nicks doesn't care about class, skill and players that can kick goals. He feels that pressure alone will kick goals regardless how unskilled the player is. That's why Cook isn't in the side for starters. It's also why he puts out best and most skilled player in Dawson in a lockdown role down back where he is totally wasted. Newchurch should be getting a game. Unfortunately we have to put up with this shit until he is sacked either this year or next.

We should have Tex, McAdam, Fogarty, Cook, Newchurch, Gollant, Rachele in our forward line. That forward line can win games. Play Thithorpe further up the group if his form warrants it.

Can't possibly field that forward line.
Who will apply the relentless but futile pressure? Who will give away multiple free kicks a game through reckless effort? Who will miss the crumbs because they were so far up the ground? Who will push up ground to create extra numbers around the contest but not have any impact? Who will definitely miss set shots from 25 m out directly in front.

You have to be careful when making changes, you just never know what you might miss...

 

[hey shorty]

Can't possibly field that forward line.
Who will apply the relentless but futile pressure? Who will give away multiple free kicks a game through reckless effort? Who will miss the crumbs because they were so far up the ground? Who will push up ground to create extra numbers around the contest but not have any impact? Who will definitely miss set shots from 25 m out directly in front.

You have to be careful when making changes, you just never know what you might miss...

I know youre trying to be ironic, but the reality with Tariek at this point is that he gets a lot of goals cheaply