Recruiting AFL Draft Watch 2022 - Tsatas, Hayes, Davey x2, Munkara & Montgomerie

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[andleanback]

I think he would be, but it is probably immaterial as it would only effect how many rookie spots we have open.

We get 4 picks on my estimation regardless of which list he is on.

If we want to keep list spots open and not delist players that we want to keep no need to upgrade him yet.

 

[TheGrizz]

If we want to keep list spots open and not delist players that we want to keep no need to upgrade him yet.

We will have have to potentially delist someone anyway.
You max out at 42 spots (36+6, 37+5, 38+4)

If Martin is on the Senior list = 33 listed players, 5 listed rookies, 4 list spot left for draft picks

If Martin is on the rookie list = 32 listed players, 6 listed rookies, 4 list spots left to draft

Makes no difference. However if we delist a Menzie/Brand/Eyre, we get 5 list spots, and if we only draft 4 guys at the ND we can pick them up as a rookie.

 

[Lads2023]

We will have have to potentially delist someone anyway.
You max out at 42 spots (36+6, 37+5, 38+4)

If Martin is on the Senior list = 33 listed players, 5 listed rookies, 4 list spot left for draft picks

If Martin is on the rookie list = 32 listed players, 6 listed rookies, 4 list spots left to draft

Makes no difference. However if we delist a Menzie/Brand/Eyre, we get 5 list spots, and if we only draft 4 guys at the ND we can pick them up as a rookie.

 

[andleanback]

We will have have to potentially delist someone anyway.
You max out at 42 spots (36+6, 37+5, 38+4)

If Martin is on the Senior list = 33 listed players, 5 listed rookies, 4 list spot left for draft picks

If Martin is on the rookie list = 32 listed players, 6 listed rookies, 4 list spots left to draft

Makes no difference. However if we delist a Menzie/Brand/Eyre, we get 5 list spots, and if we only draft 4 guys at the ND we can pick them up as a rookie.

I know it makes no different to total list spots but it does make a difference to guys that are senior listed, if we upgrade Martin that’s 1 less spot for a draft pick or a guy who hasn’t been recontracted yet. It has to be noted that menzie and waterman are rookie list spots and brand, ham and eyre are senior list

 

['51 Bewick]

Parish to be gone as a FA next year fingers crossed.

Can we trade you instead?

 

[ILikeCheese]

Parish to be gone as a FA next year fingers crossed.

If he chooses Geelong and it’s true what they pay their players, I wonder if we’d even be awarded Band 1 compo?

 

[andleanback]

If he chooses Geelong and it’s true what they pay their players, I wonder if we’d even be awarded Band 1 compo?

We’d probably have to match. Really depends on how he plays in 2023

 

[TheGrizz]

I know it makes no different to total list spots but it does make a difference to guys that are senior listed, if we upgrade Martin that’s 1 less spot for a draft pick or a guy who hasn’t been recontracted yet. It has to be noted that menzie and waterman are rookie list spots and brand, ham and eyre are senior list

But it's not one less pick if he is on the main list.

If he is a rookie, then that is 6 rookies (assuming we retain Menzie), which puts us at the maximum amount allowed for the rookie list. We are also allowed only 36 senior listed players. We currently have, by my calculation, 32 listed - meaning 4 list spots available for picks.

If he is on the main list, that means we have 5 total rookies, and 33 listed players, but can still take up to 4 picks to the draft because, theoretically, you can have a 37-5 split if you draft 4 guys.

If we wanted to open up a list spot, we could delist someone from either list (Menzie on the RL/Brand or Eyre on the ML) and we would still fall within the 36-6 to 38-4 parameters if we used 5 picks. Martin being on either list doesn't make a difference.

I don't know much clearer I can make it.

 

[eth-dog]

But it's not one less pick if he is on the main list.

If he is a rookie, then that is 6 rookies (assuming we retain Menzie), which puts us at the maximum amount allowed for the rookie list. We are also allowed only 36 senior listed players. We currently have, by my calculation, 32 listed - meaning 4 list spots available for picks.

If he is on the main list, that means we have 5 total rookies, and 33 listed players, but can still take up to 4 picks to the draft because, theoretically, you can have a 37-5 split if you draft 4 guys.

If we wanted to open up a list spot, we could delist someone from either list (Menzie on the RL/Brand or Eyre on the ML) and we would still fall within the 36-6 to 38-4 parameters if we used 5 picks. Martin being on either list doesn't make a difference.

I don't know much clearer I can make it.

They should just abolish the Cat A rookie list, increase the salary cap to adjust for the wages being outside it and have it as a 42-44 (if they ever restore it) player list with up to 2 or 3 Cat B rookies. The function of the rookie list has ceased to be relevant.

 

[TheGrizz]

They should just abolish the Cat A rookie list, increase the salary cap to adjust for the wages being outside it and have it as a 42-44 (if they ever restore it) player list with up to 2 or 3 Cat B rookies. The function of the rookie list has ceased to be relevant.

Amen.

Though, you would get push back from clubs as there is no required 2 year contract for rookies, which allows for some level of risk taking if you are only on the hook for one year.

 

[eth-dog]

Amen.

Though, you would get push back from clubs as there is no required 2 year contract for rookies, which allows for some level of risk taking if you are only on the hook for one year.

Adjust the draft so anyone taken in the 5th round or later is an automatic 1 year contract.

First round 3/4 years, second through fourth 2 years and 5th onwards one year

 

[Corleone]

It would have to be a pretty good offer to trade Pick 4

If Wardlaw somehow slips surely we take him, and if both he and Sheezel are gone I'd hope they pick Clark and run.

 

[citizen-erased]

Interesting we have the points (54, 62, 68 and 72) to match a bid on Alwyn after 22.

Is Plan A to hope the bid comes late and we can take 22.
So its 4, 22, Davey, Munkara + Jayden as rookie

 

[Steve94]

Interesting we have the points (54, 62, 68 and 72) to match a bid on Alwyn after 22.

Is Plan A to hope the bid comes late and we can take 22.
So its 4, 22, Davey, Munkara + Jayden as rookie

Jon Ralph tweeted that clubs expected the bid to come after pick 22 obviously most draft rankings seem to have him before then but based on the picks we have it seems like we expect it to come after too.

 

[citizen-erased]

Jon Ralph tweeted that clubs expected the bid to come after pick 22 obviously most draft rankings seem to have him before then but based on the picks we have it seems like we expect it to come after too.

draft rankings tend to be a little biased on who the watcher has seen and not a lot of consideration given to who holds the picks.

Not sure anyone have Cadman going 1 (2), but he will.

So this is alright. given the amount of pick movement, we must be confident

 

[Keystone agony]

Interesting we have the points (54, 62, 68 and 72) to match a bid on Alwyn after 22.

Is Plan A to hope the bid comes late and we can take 22.
So its 4, 22, Davey, Munkara + Jayden as rookie

Which 3 of Waterman, Ham, Eyre, Brand, Menzies you delisting for good?

Also i think we just have scenarios in place based on a bid before and after

Bid Before: Trade 22 out to future pick around 30 + extra points late 2022

Bid After: Happy days

 

[citizen-erased]

Which 3 of Waterman, Ham, Eyre, Brand, Menzies you delisting for good?

Waterman, Ham and Brand (re-rookie Brand)

Menzie we can't be flippant on with lack of smalls
Ham/Waterman - meh

tough call on the talls, but it felt on draft night Brand was the one we weren't as sure on.

 

[TurnOnTheBrightLights]

Jon Ralph tweeted that clubs expected the bid to come after pick 22 obviously most draft rankings seem to have him before then but based on the picks we have it seems like we expect it to come after too.

Id happily part with 22 for a future pick - aim for Hawks future second (tied to the dogs). Obviously everyone is clambering over next years draft - This year Hawks have 6 then 24 then third rounders and beyond - they will look to add experience via the addition of DFA's id suspect and will be keen to add young talent this year to expedite development. This is where we need to be patient. We will get 1 of the fab five and Alwyn Jr - then we bolster next years hand. Expecting dogs F2 to be 25ish.

 

[Seb78]

Does anyone feel the Munkara bid will hold out past pick 40?

 

[Keystone agony]

Waterman, Ham and Brand (re-rookie Brand)

Menzie we can't be flippant on with lack of smalls
Ham/Waterman - meh

tough call on the talls, but it felt on draft night Brand was the one we weren't as sure on.

You cant re rookie Brand. Its gives us 1 too many players

 

[citizen-erased]

You cant re rookie Brand. Its gives us 1 too many players

then i guess you let Brand go
With Zerk, Reid and Cox, plus Stewart and Laverde, then Eyre as well. how many taller defenders do you need competing for 2 spots in the side.

 

[Keystone agony]

then i guess you let Brand go
With Zerk, Reid and Cox, plus Stewart and Laverde, then Eyre as well. how many taller defenders do you need competing for 2 spots in the side.

Yeh he may be the unlucky one. From what i saw if i was another team like North, Hawks id be picking him up

22 before Davey bid and no bid on Munkara still seems to good to be true

Or we could also take B.George at 22 and put him on the LTI to keep that extra spot allowing to keep Brand

 

[citizen-erased]

Yeh he may be the unlucky one. From what i saw if i was another team like North, Hawks id be picking him up

22 before Davey bid and no bid on Munkara still seems to good to be true

Or we could also take B.George at 22 and put him on the LTI to keep that extra spot allowing to keep Brand

like that.
Clark and George would be a tidy set of picks.

i get the feeling that we predict nothing on Davey until after 22 given we kept the pick. but then again, we may still be working on that.
so i guess it comes down to what happens between now and when Davey is bid on.

 

[Cup_o_Jobe]

I've heard a lot of talk that Munkara will struggle to adjust to AFL life. Also that Jayden's knees are already cooked. Beyond repair.

Everyone: be sure to repeat these rock solid factoids if you find yourself seated at the cafe next to an AFL recruiter in the coming weeks, OK.

 

[Ati Tude]

I've heard a lot of talk that Munkara will struggle to adjust to AFL life. Also that Jayden's knees are already cooked. Beyond repair.

Everyone: be sure to repeat these rock solid factoids if you find yourself seated at the cafe next to an AFL recruiter in the coming weeks, OK.

The only one I would recognise is Dodo but will be sure to mention it.