Recruiting AFL Draft Watch 2022 - Tsatas, Hayes, Davey x2, Munkara & Montgomerie

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[Foxx]

Although I still think McKenzie is the safe bet as a no frills blue collar A grader. I'm on the Phillipou train now. He has that superstar attributes to be a great inside mid/fwd.
A beautiful left foot kick. Good decision maker, kick for goal.
The best comparison is Pendlebury. Who didn't have pace either, but had tonnes of composure in traffic. Although Pendles could rack up 35 touches. Not sure Phillipou could.

 

[FlyingV]

Tsatas is class, Polec never showed any of that.

What does that even mean?
Polec showed enough class to go pick 5 at the same age.

 

[Zach Package]

In the spirit of post 1 in this thread, going early on 2023.

For the watchers - thoughts on pairing Archer and Zach into the same team as either future bookends or a brotherly set of forwards?
Can't imagine we're much better than this year. Seems to be a top 10 pick and we need a decent KPF in the next couple of years.

Archer’s is forward that might be able to swing into the ruck but not back at this stage and Zach is most certainly a defender, so bookends.

Given what Reid did as an underager it wouldn’t be surprising at all to see him completely rip the arse out of next year and go pick 1 or close to it. He’s just turned 17 6 weeks ago, already 202cms and probably still growing and has the same long, telescopic arms his brother does. You’re looking at another Sam Darcy type prospect.

 

['51 Bewick]

Does anyone have a list of the players that have been invited to draft night, please?

 

[citizen-erased]

Archer’s is forward that might be able to swing into the ruck but not back at this stage and Zach is most certainly a defender, so bookends.

Given what Reid did as an underager it wouldn’t be surprising at all to see him completely rip the arse out of next year and go pick 1 or close to it. He’s just turned 17 6 weeks ago, already 202cms and probably still growing and has the same long, telescopic arms his brother does. You’re looking at another Sam Darcy type prospect.

time to tank him? or just tank ourselves let parish go via FA and bank 1 and 2 - Archer & Harley

I was more thinking I've seen mentioned that Zach can go forward. If Zerk & Cox turn out to be a solid pair, and Jones is (as I suspect) more a 3rd tall with mobility, then perhaps Wright & Zach evolves to Zach and Archer.

 

[JT_the_Man]

So how do we go about pairing up the Reid brothers AND getting Harley Reid next year just to add some extra confusion.

 

[citizen-erased]

So how do we go about pairing up the Reid brothers AND getting Harley Reid next year just to add some extra confusion.

tank and push Parish out via FA
picks 1 and 2. Easy peasy.
should apply for priority pick compensation too.

 

[The Prosecutor]

Humphrey > Phillipou >> Tsatas for me in terms of preference, though would be happy with any.

 

[Zach Package]

time to tank him? or just tank ourselves let parish go via FA and bank 1 and 2 - Archer & Harley

I was more thinking I've seen mentioned that Zach can go forward. If Zerk & Cox turn out to be a solid pair, and Jones is (as I suspect) more a 3rd tall with mobility, then perhaps Wright & Zach evolves to Zach and Archer.

Jones Reid Stringer
Wright Reid Baldwin

Land of the giants

 

[citizen-erased]

Jones Reid Stringer
Wright Reid Baldwin

Land of the giants

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Voss?

 

[Zach Package]

Voss?

Voss is a crumber compared to these long boys

 

[andleanback]

Granted by the guys who recruited 4 KPDs in 1 draft, at the start of a rebuild.

eyre was drafted as a forward
Cox and Reid were considered to be able to play anywhere.

 

[Booplaz]

Tsatas is class, Polec never showed any of that.

?

 

[ant555]

Granted by the guys who recruited 4 KPDs in 1 draft, at the start of a rebuild.

Did they ?
Eyre - forward
Cox - Forward and back
Reid - back forward and ruck.
Brand - back.
That is where they played before they where drafted.

 

[BrunoV]

Did they ?
Eyre - forward
Cox - Forward and back
Reid - back forward and ruck.
Brand - back.
That is where they played before they where drafted.

You know very well they all played best in defence.

 

[Big Fresh]

You know very well they all played best in defence.

Doesn't everyone play best in defence?

 

[BrunoV]

Doesn't everyone play best in defence?

When the player swings between defence and attack, yes. These players are usually defenders aren't they?

Forwards tend not to play anywhere else and it's the same with rucks.

The only guy I can think of that was a defender who got drafted as a defender, played forward and did it really well is Naughton.

 

[Zach Package]

This is a really strange argument, I thought we were all in agreement that Laverde and Ridley were playing too tall and we needed to get some key defensive options into the club.

Reckon far stranger moves like bringing in Jake Kelly

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4star

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8.3

3star

HB

6.3

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M

4.6

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

157.8

2star

D

8.1

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.6

4star

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104.1

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14.8

4star

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9.0

4star

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5.8

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6.0

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T

4.2

5star

MG

107.0

2star

, flagging that Weideman ‘could play back’ and trying Stewart in defense have caused the Brand and Eyre delistings anyway so it’s all jumping at shadows stuff.

There should have been plenty of room on the list to persist with both of them, Brand in particular didn’t have a massively high ceiling but was as good as a lock to make it at AFL level as a dour shut down type.

 

[andleanback]

You know very well they all played best in defence.

Zach Reid played some of his best footy in the ruck
Cox played his best games underage as a forward

 

[Sporno 4 Pyros]

Do Carlton still want our pick 4??
If we can’t get Wardlaw or Sheezle I would move back for their P10 +future first.
Still pick up someone like Hollands (gut runner, competitive streak, had his best game in the wet).
3xtop 25 picks next year

 

[fishardansin]

When the player swings between defence and attack, yes. These players are usually defenders aren't they?

Forwards tend not to play anywhere else and it's the same with rucks.

The only guy I can think of that was a defender who go drafted, played forward and did it really well is Naughton.

No, it requires far more skill to beat someone when you're playing as a forward. It is why we see these dominating intercept defenders go to water when the opposition puts a defensive forward on them.

Defence only requires athletic capabilities and concentration.

 

[Duckworth]

Do Carlton still want our pick 4??
If we can’t get Wardlaw or Sheezle I would move back for their P10 +future first.
Still pick up someone like Hollands (gut runner, competitive streak, had his best game in the wet).
3xtop 25 picks next year

Pick 10 will get you one of the big mids, don't worry about Hollands.

 

[Keystone agony]

This is a really strange argument, I thought we were all in agreement that Laverde and Ridley were playing too tall and we needed to get some key defensive options into the club.

Reckon far stranger moves like bringing in Jake Kelly, flagging that Weideman ‘could play back’ and trying Stewart in defense have caused the Brand and Eyre delistings anyway so it’s all jumping at shadows stuff.

There should have been plenty of room on the list to persist with both of them, Brand in particular didn’t have a massively high ceiling but was as good as a lock to make it at AFL level as a dour shut down type.

Not really sure which or what your arguing here

We still have Cox, Reid, Zerk and Stewart on the list

I thought Stewart had shown a bit as a forward and preferred him there which probably means you dont need Weideman which would allow us to keep an Eyre or Brand on the list

Actually think Brand was showing himself to be a very capable intercept player down back in the VFL, not just a shutdown. I guess an AFL club will pick him up if he is a lock

What Bruno is arguing is fair, at the time many argued that 4 talls in the one draft wouldnt last long and was pointless. 3 were key defenders. I guess the club was happy if 2 of the 3 made it and Brand was hardly someone we spent large draft capital on but knowing he was coming means we couldve potentially altered our top end pick strategy...going smaller.

I guess if Zerk didnt come on leaps and bounds he probably wouldve been the one out and we couldve kept a Brand or Eyre

Reid, Cox and a Brand/Eyre couldve worked with Ridley as the 4th at some point down the line

 

[Bjchan13]

Humphrey > Phillipou >> Tsatas for me in terms of preference, though would be happy with any.

I cant split Tsatas and Phillipou. Last week or so been leaning towards Phillipou.

 

[GUMBLETRON]

Defence only requires athletic capabilities and concentration.

I feel very seen.