AFL Round 14 Melbourne V Brisbane Lions Official Thread

[charles202]

I would agree that most of our team is carrying injury niggles at the moment. However i fear that both Black and Adcock are geting up to the severe niggle stage, and neither are players we can afford to be without for an extended period of time.

Hopefully, both Sherman and TJ will be back this week and those are pretty good ins to replace those guys. Not to mention the return of Roe.

However, i wouldnt be surprised to see both of them play to try and secure the wii.

 

[dlanod]

However, i wouldnt be surprised to see both of them play to try and secure the wii.

I'm assuming a BOG award or something, but the thought of them playing just to try and get it is funny in it's own right.

 

[Grimreepah]

I wouldn't have thought too much would change. If you're passed fit you play, if not you don't. IMO we should play the best side possible to give us the best chance of winning.

 

[Homer Jnr]

Hopefully Bradshaw is fit, he loves Melbourne. And if Brown is marked by a debutant, it could be very interesting.

Midfield needs to keep their guard up and stop their midfielders running forward and doing their scoring.

 

[Lace Out]

I'm assuming a BOG award or something, but the thought of them playing just to try and get it is funny in it's own right.

Pisser typo

 

[dlanod]

Pisser typo

That makes a hell of a lot more sense. Nintendo sponsors the Channel 7 coverage to some extant (their "Seven days in seven seconds" or whatever that they show on Sundays is "brought to you by Nintendo Wii"), hence my extended confusion.

 

[POBT]

It is just too hard to second guess the medical staff. We simply do not know. Moreover, our club is possibly the most secretive in the competition in terms of releasing information about a player's health. Adcock's injury at the beginning of the year had the qualified (Doc Larkins) and the unqualified (ie BigFooty posters) writing him off for weeks. He played 6 days later.

Unless you are a medical expert and have all of the relevant information at hand, it is simply guess work and so pronouncements of "this bloke should be rested" are empty. What I will say is that Black has looked like a player who is in need of a break. Whether he can get through another game or whether he really needs a 2 week break, that is for the club, on medical advice, to decide.

The quality of opposition is a factor in determining whether an injured player plays or not. However, it is such a minor factor compared to the medical diagnosis and treatment. Yes - we play Melbourne the week before a bye. Those two factors combined might make a slight difference in the club's decision making - slight.

 

[davey_magik]

Please don't risk Bradshaw.

Please.

 

[Duritz]

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Surely Bailey is taking the piss...

He's risen in my estimations, Bailey, for even suggesting that. Sure, Big Stef would get thumped but clearly Bailey is thinking. Top sign for the Dees, seriously.

 

[Duritz]

Please don't risk Bradshaw.

Please.

LOL... though I actually agree.

 

[xplo]

Clark was recruited after playing ff for his junior career. The doggies match he looked out of sorts and lost int he forward line.

That's like not feeding your dog and then telling the vet you don't know why he seems to have lost his appetite.

What can you do at FF when your midfield is getting pantsed?

 

[POBT]

That's like not feeding your dog and then telling the vet you don't know why he seems to have lost his appetite.

"lol" is highly over-used around here. I was just trying to think if I have ever "laughed out loud" at a post on BigFooty. Then I read this. Then I laughed out loud.

To use a Johnism, I don't wanna piss in your pocket but that is the best analogy I've heard for ages. Classic xplo!!!

 

[POBT]

On the issue though, I said some time ago that I had my reservations about Mitch Clark as a key position forward. I still have those same doubts. But I love the way he goes about his work as a second ruckman with a bit of a licence to roam around. His work as a resting ruckman against Adelaide up forward was excellent.

I just don't think he'll ever be the main man in a forward line. But I think he's shown enough to suggest that he'll be regular goal kicker for years to come, whilst contributing in other roles like in the ruck, in the backline or as a third tall forward to stretch the opposition's defence. A very handy player in development.

 

[whizkizz]

Pick the best team possible. Last time we played Melbourne we coasted out to a huge lead by half time. If we can get to a comfortable margin this time round then we can rest the stars.

I would hate to see us rest the likes of Adcock, Black and Bradshaw, have Melbourne think we're taking it as a walk in the park, and being pantsed by a motivated and pi$$ed off bottom team.

 

[mpal6]

Would rest Adcock and Black only if we get the right replacements -- TJ and Sherman.

 

[Duritz]

Pick the best team possible. Last time we played Melbourne we coasted out to a huge lead by half time. If we can get to a comfortable margin this time round then we can rest the stars.

I would hate to see us rest the likes of Adcock, Black and Bradshaw, have Melbourne think we're taking it as a walk in the park, and being pantsed by a motivated and pi$$ed off bottom team.

Problem is you can't rest four blokes for an entire half, because the 18 made to spend the whole half on the field will be knackered!

 

[Grimreepah]

He's risen in my estimations, Bailey, for even suggesting that. Sure, Big Stef would get thumped but clearly Bailey is thinking. Top sign for the Dees, seriously.

Seems a bit of a contradiction to me.

I guess the end result will determine how smart the move is.

 

[Tim the Toolman]

Would rest Adcock and Black only if we get the right replacements -- TJ and Sherman.

Sherman as a replacement for Adcock! That's like replacing Vossy with Moody?

 

[dlanod]

Obviously Sherman was meant as the replacement for Black.

What...?

 

[CaptainDavey]

I tell you what I like about you Brisbane lads? The lack of arrogance that you usually get from clubs supporters when they play against Melbourne. I haven't heard 'I won't be happy with anything less than a 10 goal win' yet and it's that kind of sportsmanship that the game lacks IMO. Kudos to you all.

But yeah, don't play Bradshaw. Just don't. Pllleeeeaaaaassseee...And don't read much into Bails putting Stef onto Brown, as I'd imagine we'll friggen quadrupole team Brown at every chance we'll get. Not that it'll stop him. Here's to a good game, or a spanking in the first half, a resurgent Melbourne in the third quarter and then a shoot out in the last

 

[dlanod]

I won't be happy unless Melbourne is left orbiting the moon because we kicked their arses so hard.

Better?

 

[Duritz]

Seems a bit of a contradiction to me.

I guess the end result will determine how smart the move is.

I don't think the end result is important. I think everyone knows that unless Melbourne do something extraordinary, or the Lions do something extra ordinary, then the Lions are going to win the game. At this point, it's not really Dean Baily's job to try to win as many games as possible, it's about sculpting the team, esp and most importantly the younger players, for the future. Tossing Stefan Edberg against Brown isn't going to win him the game, but it may teach Stefan things that win games down the track. To me, it shows he's thinking outside the square, not just going through the motions.

 

[Grimreepah]

To me, it shows he's thinking outside the square, not just going through the motions.

I would argue the square is there for a reason and generally it's better to develop players a step at a time. I also think players will learn more if there are adequate structures in place. If the Dees start haemorrhaging then I'm not sure what benefit that would be to the development of the kid or the rest of the team.

Not that I'm against trying something different, but I still think you want to be trying to operate within a logical framework.

 

[Dylan12]

Clark was recruited after playing ff for his junior career. The doggies match he looked out of sorts and lost int he forward line.

Clark may have played FF prior to his colts (u/18) career, but I saw quite a bit of Mitch in the 2 years leading up to him being drafted by the Lions and I don't remember him playing at FF. He mainly played as a CHF/Ruckman so not sure that is an accurate assessment.

That Dogs game should be thrown out the window, everyone was down and unfair to judge him on that game, plus the delivery inside 50 was atrocious to say the least.

 

[dtm06]

I don't want us to treat this match the way west coast treated our match at subi last year otherwise we are a serious chance of losing. We have to play the best fit team available. We do have the mid season break coming up straight after remember.