AFL Round 22: Richmond v Essendon Friday 7:50pm AEST @MCG

[tugga]

Just be thankful you didn't start a supplements program with The Weapon. If BigFooty thinks Tigers fans had a lot to say after 37 years on the wagon, just wait until Essendon salutes.

as will be your right

 

[LB#16]

You mean the game we beat you by 71 points and had less frees than Essendon ? I’m struggling to find your point here..

Your lot sooking about umpires after shrugging off our complaints as nothing last time. Massive double standards. Got it yet?

 

[Grin]

Your lot sooking about umpires after shrugging off our complaints as nothing last time. Massive double standards. Got it yet?

But Essendon got more free kicks than Richmond last time as well as this time.

 

[TigerTime88]

But Essendon got more free kicks than Richmond last time as well as this time.

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

 

[AstuteTiger]

I was clearly talking about the absolute ride you got last time if you'd like to actually read my post. Richmond supporters told us not to complain while they were being given every free under the sun last time. This time Essendon supporters had no right to complain but Richmond fans calling them out when they were just as ignorant last time around is a laugh.

Fair enough my bad talking bout last time. But if you think we got a free ride then you're being delusional you do realise that ess had more frees at dreamtime and you have the audacity to say we had every free under the sun. Seriously bro take the rose coloured glasses off.
Ess were like witches hats that night, the umpires had no barring on the result but your club and fans did well to make it about rance and forgot how bad your team actually played. Last night brown got 2 bullshit frees which he goaled both and the broad free against was a fricken joke. Then hooker dives forward it was soft as butter but u guessed it another freebie goal.

 

[davis_756]

For the 0.5 of a second he was in play? That's not how they pay it 1000 times a year,

As I said in the original post "This should be paid more often"

Much rather see these then the ones where the player has no proir the ball gets pinged in but instead of blowing the whistle the ump stands there for 10 seconds and calls holding the ball.

 

[Tigerish Tiger]

I agree with Dimma, it wasn't a fun game to watch necessarily, and that really annoyed him. A contagiously awkward game.

The Tigers dominated the play, had they kicked straight they would have won by 40-50 points.

Tigers just have more class around the contest, they don't muck about moving the ball through the contest.

That's why Prestia and Cotchin so important more so Dion really clean around the contest and why Tigers so keen on Lynch to capitalise on the inside 50's even if he doesn't mark it we have the smalls to make it count and Jack would get the number 2 defender.

 

[LB#16]

But Essendon got more free kicks than Richmond last time as well as this time.

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

The free count never tells the full story. Richmond got the rub of the green last time and Essendon got it last night.

 

[LB#16]

Fair enough my bad talking bout last time. But if you think we got a free ride then you're being delusional you do realise that ess had more frees at dreamtime and you have the audacity to say we had every free under the sun. Seriously bro take the rose coloured glasses off.
Ess were like witches hats that night, the umpires had no barring on the result but your club and fans did well to make it about rance and forgot how bad your team actually played. Last night brown got 2 bullshit frees which he goaled both and the broad free against was a fricken joke. Then hooker dives forward it was soft as butter but u guessed it another freebie goal.

Exactly what I’m saying. Pissing and moaning about the Hooker dive and the free against Broad but very happy to shrug off the Dusty free on Hurley and Rance dive last time

 

[Grin]

Exactly what I’m saying. Pissing and moaning about the Hooker dive and the free against Broad but very happy to shrug off the Dusty free on Hurley and Rance dive last time

So no Essendon supporters winged about those things?
That's not how I remember it.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Exactly what I’m saying. Pissing and moaning about the Hooker dive and the free against Broad but very happy to shrug off the Dusty free on Hurley and Rance dive last time

Lollll nobody brushed it aside cause it was there the rane dive. And you're not getting it you still came up on top on the free kick count.
Why would you even bring up the dusty free when u lost by 12 goals seriously if u lost by 2 or 6 points one could see the argument at hand but 12 goals geez let it go!

 

[Grin]

In all fairness, LB#16 is like many, many other opposition supporters in that they feel that Richmond is not just the superior team, but that Richmond supporters are superior people. They expect far, far higher standards of behaviour of us than they do of anyone else. In this case, that Richmond supporters be nothing but complimentary about appalling umpiring. Now I don't think its bad behaviour to call a spade a spade. In fact it is entirely appropriate. However, in his deluded mind, he feels we should say only nice things about the umpires, particularly in games against Essendon, lest he feel aggrieved. Whilst the double standard seems breathtaking, remember, this is irrational hero worship.

It's kind of cute that he obviously looks up to us so much though.

 

[tony__montana]

In all fairness, LB#16 is like many, many other opposition supporters in that they feel that Richmond is not just the superior team, but that Richmond supporters are superior people. They expect far, far higher standards of behaviour of us than they do of anyone else. In this case, that Richmond supporters be nothing but complimentary about appalling umpiring. Now I don't think its bad behaviour to call a spade a spade. In fact it is entirely appropriate. However, in his deluded mind, he feels we should say only nice things about the umpires, particularly in games against Essendon, lest he feel aggrieved. Whilst the double standard seems breathtaking, remember, this is irrational hero worship.

It's kind of cute that he obviously looks up to us so much though.

Stunning isn’t it?

-110 differential yet somehow we’re lucky. Figure that one out. How any opposition supporter can sit there with a straight face and say anything but we get reamed week in week out is a troll, deluded or just doesn’t know
Footy.

The fact there can be 200+ frees difference between 2 sides over the course of a season is stunning. Given free kicks are counted as contested possessions one side is averaging approx 10 more contested possessions per game than the other based purely on free kick differential. That’s ****ing ridiculous in any language.

 

[blitzer]

Anyone watching that game would have seen that most of the free kicks awarded to Essendon were from holding the ball and being tackled and since Richmond are so handball happy that's probably always going to happen against a team that lays lots of tackles. A kicking team has turnovers, a handball team gives up frees for holding the ball. The only other notable ones were Riewoldt who kept trying to get away with shoves in the back but got caught multiple times. Don't blame him for trying but that sort of stuff you're just hoping the umps don't catch you.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Anyone watching that game would have seen that most of the free kicks awarded to Essendon were from holding the ball and being tackled and since Richmond are so handball happy that's probably always going to happen against a team that lays lots of tackles. A kicking team has turnovers, a handball team gives up frees for holding the ball. The only other notable ones were Riewoldt who kept trying to get away with shoves in the back but got caught multiple times. Don't blame him for trying but that sort of stuff you're just hoping the umps don't catch you.

Of course how could we not see all that now do urself a favour and watch it again as perhaps you can explain these 4 howlers, broad pinned for holding the ball when as soon as he got tackled went over the behind line shouldve 100% been a behind not holding the ball. Mitchell Brown 2 frees which weren't there for the slightest of touches even commentators spoke of them just soft as butter and he got 2 goals gifted. Hooker dives forward i think we all saw what his intention was and he got the free and goal. Theirs 4 frees just there resulting in 3 goals and a behind.

 

[LB#16]

In all fairness, LB#16 is like many, many other opposition supporters in that they feel that Richmond is not just the superior team, but that Richmond supporters are superior people. They expect far, far higher standards of behaviour of us than they do of anyone else. In this case, that Richmond supporters be nothing but complimentary about appalling umpiring. Now I don't think its bad behaviour to call a spade a spade. In fact it is entirely appropriate. However, in his deluded mind, he feels we should say only nice things about the umpires, particularly in games against Essendon, lest he feel aggrieved. Whilst the double standard seems breathtaking, remember, this is irrational hero worship.

It's kind of cute that he obviously looks up to us so much though.

I sat there during both games commenting about how bad the umpiring was. Essendon supporters around me were commenting that our boys were getting a ride on Friday. Richmond supporters think so highly of themselves that they only see an injustice when their team is infringed and think only they have the right to bemoan the umpires. A very high sense of self importance. Whether mediocre or dominating, Richmond supporters generally struggle to remain unbiased.

 

[THE THIN MAN]

A very high sense of self importance. Whether mediocre or dominating, Richmond supporters generally struggle to remain unbiased.

Essendon supporters still think Hird was innocent......

 

[Grin]

I sat there during both games commenting about how bad the umpiring was. Essendon supporters around me were commenting that our boys were getting a ride on Friday. Richmond supporters think so highly of themselves that they only see an injustice when their team is infringed and think only they have the right to bemoan the umpires. A very high sense of self importance. Whether mediocre or dominating, Richmond supporters generally struggle to remain unbiased.

So I think we've established that, in your mind, Essendon supporters are allowed to complain when there are arguably a couple of poor decisions against them in a game where they generally got the rub of the green, but Richmond supporters aren't in a game where the umpires went in dry.

OK. But excuse me if I disagree.

 

[TiggyTig]

Your lot sooking about umpires after shrugging off our complaints as nothing last time. Massive double standards. Got it yet?

So you’re saying a 19-22 free kick count is equal to a 15-27 count? Both times Essendon had more btw

 

[LB#16]

So I think we've established that, in your mind, Essendon supporters are allowed to complain when there are arguably a couple of poor decisions against them in a game where they generally got the rub of the green, but Richmond supporters aren't in a game where the umpires went in dry.

OK. But excuse me if I disagree.

No, that's not what I mean. Most supporters can recognise when their team is being favoured heavily, Richmond supporters completely ignore it and tell other fans to stop whinging as if it never happened and then turn around and bitch and moan when it happens to them.

 

[TiggyTig]

No, that's not what I mean. Most supporters can recognise when their team is being favoured heavily, Richmond supporters completely ignore it and tell other fans to stop whinging as if it never happened and then turn around and bitch and moan when it happens to them.

So you’re saying Richmond were favoured heavily last time we played? Rance took a dive and Dusty had a soft holding paid that was still there in a game that was won by 12 goals and Essendon still had more free kicks. Got it

 

[smasha]

No, that's not what I mean. Most supporters can recognise when their team is being favoured heavily, Richmond supporters completely ignore it and tell other fans to stop whinging as if it never happened and then turn around and bitch and moan when it happens to them.

Odear.

 

[Andronicus]

Are Richmond fans really complaining about a Hooker dive?

 

[Grin]

No, that's not what I mean. Most supporters can recognise when their team is being favoured heavily, Richmond supporters completely ignore it and tell other fans to stop whinging as if it never happened and then turn around and bitch and moan when it happens to them.

But Richmond clearly weren't being heavily favoured in that game. Essendon got most of the free kicks. There were a couple of arguable ones in Richmonds favour and and several were missed that Richmond should have got. In the end the umpiring still favoured Essendon, but you lot carried on like it was the biggest injustice in AFL history. It's like you expect the umpires to do absolutely everything they possibly can to blatantly favour club in every game, and if they only favour a little, you feel horribly cheated.

I don't think it's the umpires job to try their hardest, including blatant cheating, to try to win games for Essendon. Clearly we disagree.

 

[Andronicus]

It's like you expect the umpires to do absolutely everything they possibly can to blatantly favour club in every game, and if they only favour a little, you feel horribly cheated.

I don't think it's the umpires job to try their hardest, including blatant cheating, to try to win games for Essendon. Clearly we disagree.

When you finish with this it becomes pretty obvious that regardless what your point may be, you aren't able to engage in reasonable discussion.