Paine is too slow. If the pill hits the ground he will watch his opponent take off-we can't afford to play another slow forward.
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I wouldn't mind seeing williams in, his attitude and attack on the ball could really lift our other players
Hopefully Goldsack is back too
Would also bring in didak to see how he goes, nothing to lose.
In: Williams Goldsack Didak
Out: Clarke(inj) Seedsmen Blair
No chance Ball will play as he only missed this week because he needs VFL games, and he hasn't played one yet.
Hopefully Goldsack is back too
Would also bring in didak to see how he goes, nothing to lose.
In: Williams Goldsack Didak
Out: Clarke(inj) Seedsmen Blair
No chance Ball will play as he only missed this week because he needs VFL games, and he hasn't played one yet.
I would like to see us limit the game plan that every team seems to implement against us in which they flood back leaving their forward line open exposing our lack of speed running back defensively.
We need to do the same and push numbers back heavily into opposition forward lines leaving our forwards with some area to work with. All too often i see our forward line jam packed full of players which forms packs and the opposition run it out easily into open areas as they stream forward. Its the slingshot sydney used last year and very effective against our shambles of a 'forward press'
We need to do the same and push numbers back heavily into opposition forward lines leaving our forwards with some area to work with. All too often i see our forward line jam packed full of players which forms packs and the opposition run it out easily into open areas as they stream forward. Its the slingshot sydney used last year and very effective against our shambles of a 'forward press'
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If it wasnt for the VFL bye, Ball probably would have played vs geelong. Ball, beams and hopefully young back vs the swans. A must win game.
In: Williams, Didak, Goldsack, Witts
Out: Mooney, Blair, Kennedy, Lynch (inj),
(If Clarke is injured, might need to consider someone like Sinclair or Russell. Would like Johnson, but he's missed, what, 3 weeks now? Would need a run in the two's surely?)
B: Shaw Brown Williams
HB: Maxwell Reid Seedsman
C: O'Brien J. Thomas D. Thomas
HF: Sidebottom Goldsack Elliott
F: Krakouer Cloke Witts
Foll: Jolly Swan Pendlebury
Int: Macaffer Dwyer Clarke
Sub: Didak
This is going to be such an awesome season...just you all wait.
Out: Mooney, Blair, Kennedy, Lynch (inj),
(If Clarke is injured, might need to consider someone like Sinclair or Russell. Would like Johnson, but he's missed, what, 3 weeks now? Would need a run in the two's surely?)
B: Shaw Brown Williams
HB: Maxwell Reid Seedsman
C: O'Brien J. Thomas D. Thomas
HF: Sidebottom Goldsack Elliott
F: Krakouer Cloke Witts
Foll: Jolly Swan Pendlebury
Int: Macaffer Dwyer Clarke
Sub: Didak
This is going to be such an awesome season...just you all wait.
forwardflanker
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It's not his pace that's the issue it's the lateral movement that was found out when he took Walters. Obviously it didn't work out however I think people are underselling Macaffer's game last night. He shut down Mundy who was bog in the first quarter and definitely needs to be continued as a tagger imo
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Is Lynch a definite out?
I am not convinced that a wholesale change of personnel is going to make us more competitive. Individual players need to focus on the flaws in their game. Elliott needs to be more 3 dimensional, O'Brien can't serve up another 6 critical errors from the wing, our mid-fielders have to tackle and harass like their lives depend on it, Krakouer needs to develop some intensity in his game when he doesn't have the ball and Maxwell should play better with a game under his belt.
There are players who could use a rest or are not capable of performing the roles they have been given. If Ball is back, Blair could be moved into the forward line where his tackling would be handy. Goldsack will hopefully return and Williams might get a job down back. Unfortunately, with no VFL game this weekend, there is only last week's VFL form on which to assess players.
There is no point making changes just for the sake of it. We thought Maxwell and Mooney might make a difference but they didn't. Many want Didak in the side, though his VFL form has been solid but not outstanding. The selectors this week have a difficult time ahead of them.
There are players who could use a rest or are not capable of performing the roles they have been given. If Ball is back, Blair could be moved into the forward line where his tackling would be handy. Goldsack will hopefully return and Williams might get a job down back. Unfortunately, with no VFL game this weekend, there is only last week's VFL form on which to assess players.
There is no point making changes just for the sake of it. We thought Maxwell and Mooney might make a difference but they didn't. Many want Didak in the side, though his VFL form has been solid but not outstanding. The selectors this week have a difficult time ahead of them.
B Shaw Brown Williams
HB Goldsack Reid Maxwell
C Obrien Swan Sidebottom
HF Didak Cloke Elliott
F Mooney D Thomas Krakour
R Jolly Pendlebury Mccaffer
Int Lynch Dwyer J Thomas
Sub Seedsman
Outs Blair (apart from first 3 rounds has done nothing)
Kennedy
Clarke inj
Ins Didak
Williams
Goldsack
Would give ball another game in vfl
HB Goldsack Reid Maxwell
C Obrien Swan Sidebottom
HF Didak Cloke Elliott
F Mooney D Thomas Krakour
R Jolly Pendlebury Mccaffer
Int Lynch Dwyer J Thomas
Sub Seedsman
Outs Blair (apart from first 3 rounds has done nothing)
Kennedy
Clarke inj
Ins Didak
Williams
Goldsack
Would give ball another game in vfl
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Pardon the intrusion.
I have read this thread and find it interesting that you dont rate your smaller faster younger players. I have not see much of them this year but thought they were not bad early on - you see them week in and out so obviously you know more.
Think it will be a great game and we are certainly not underestimating you guys. I expect a tough contest and lets face it, Swan, Pendles, Cloke, Harry O etc will be gunning for us. Also you need the win and I can't see you guys just falling away. Too good for that.
As an aside, could you draw a comparison between Pies 2013 and Geelong 2010? We were slow and stuck in a rut a bit and needed more pace which we got going more in 2011. You have been concerned about pace etc and have the newer breed coming in...
I just cant write you off...
Good luck
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I have read this thread and find it interesting that you dont rate your smaller faster younger players. I have not see much of them this year but thought they were not bad early on - you see them week in and out so obviously you know more.
Think it will be a great game and we are certainly not underestimating you guys. I expect a tough contest and lets face it, Swan, Pendles, Cloke, Harry O etc will be gunning for us. Also you need the win and I can't see you guys just falling away. Too good for that.
As an aside, could you draw a comparison between Pies 2013 and Geelong 2010? We were slow and stuck in a rut a bit and needed more pace which we got going more in 2011. You have been concerned about pace etc and have the newer breed coming in...
I just cant write you off...
Good luck
GO Catters
You forgot Christensen and Stokes who are going through the middle too.
Swans have Jack, Hanneberry and McGlynn.
Hardly all if bodies. Yes we have too many but other sides do have some. The key point is if they are small they need some key attributes like foot speed, ball winning ability and/or good kicking skills.
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Yeah, you are right, which means Didak might come into contention simply based on the need for anyone who can kick accurately for goal, and because of his experience in big games.
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Is Ball any chance to come back in?
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We will almost certainly lose against Geelong without Ball. We will probably lose anyway, but a least his presence at clearances gives us half a chance.
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We are NO chance to win this one. Geelong are just in too good of form to let this one slip. I just hope they don't flog us by too much.
Will be VERY surprised if we win.
Will be VERY surprised if we win.
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We need to do a 360 if we want to be Close to winning.
IN: Witts Goldsack Didak
OUT: Lynchc Clarke Krakouer
I would not Drop Kennendy as he was descent and Deserves to keep playing
IN: Witts Goldsack Didak
OUT: Lynchc Clarke Krakouer
I would not Drop Kennendy as he was descent and Deserves to keep playing
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If we have any heart we will come out snarling in this game.
Ball should come in after having a heavy training week just gone.(according to Eade last week)
That would in turn, create a sort of domino effect.
It will release either Pendles or Swanny from the coal face and allow them more freedom from the grunt work in the middle.
Blair or Sidebottom would then go back to the forward line to be at the feet of Cloke.
Krak will hopefully get a huge kick up the arse and be told to defend as well. He provided no defensive pressure at all last night. He would be lucky to keep his spot if I had any say in it.
I'd like to see them bring in Paine to provide some relief for Trav, especially when Lynch goes into the ruck.
In: Ball, Goldsack, Paine.
Out: Clarke , Krakouer, ???
Ball should come in after having a heavy training week just gone.(according to Eade last week)
That would in turn, create a sort of domino effect.
It will release either Pendles or Swanny from the coal face and allow them more freedom from the grunt work in the middle.
Blair or Sidebottom would then go back to the forward line to be at the feet of Cloke.
Krak will hopefully get a huge kick up the arse and be told to defend as well. He provided no defensive pressure at all last night. He would be lucky to keep his spot if I had any say in it.
I'd like to see them bring in Paine to provide some relief for Trav, especially when Lynch goes into the ruck.
In: Ball, Goldsack, Paine.
Out: Clarke , Krakouer, ???
Buckley said in his presser that Ball and Didak are in the selection mix. Ball has had two games in the VFL, played well, has had a week of to get over any soreness, can't see why he wouldn't play. I also think both Ball and Didak were already selected straight after the Freo game, to face the Cats.
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Changed it to Didak then
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IN: showmanship
OUT: Lazy arse footballers
OUT: Lazy arse footballers
IN: DIDAK, WILLIAMS, BALL
Out: DON'T CARE! Just a bloke in who has some speed and mongrel and can play on Motlop. Get a bloke in who can direct a ****ing leather thing to a player on his own team...And get the biggest heart pumping in our team.
Out: DON'T CARE! Just a bloke in who has some speed and mongrel and can play on Motlop. Get a bloke in who can direct a ****ing leather thing to a player on his own team...And get the biggest heart pumping in our team.
