AFL Top 10 players

[Big Fat Hutchy]

Brian Lake? From the Dogs I'd have Boyd, Aker, Higgins and Hargrave before Lake. I have Lake just scraping into the top 50. He has been awesome the last two weeks but over the entire season there have been plenty better.

Yes they have all been great maybe Higgens before Lake but thats it i have watched him all season an the way he sets up plays from the backline is quiet unbeliveable an will not be suprised if he takes the best an fairest at the dogs this year.

 

[Abstract]

If the match is a draw - both teams’ best five players score 10,8,6,4,2
If the margin is 1-9 points - winners get 10,8,6,4,2; losers get 9,7,5,3,1
If the margin is 10-29 points - winners get 10,9,6,5,2; losers get 8,7,4,3,1
If the margin is 30-59 points - winners get 10,9,8,4,3; losers get 7,6,5,2,1
If the margin is 60-99 points - winners get 10,9,8,7,6; losers get 5,4,3,2,1
If the margin is 100+ points - winners get 10,9,8,7,6,5; losers get 4,3,2,1

AFL TOP 10 PLAYERS
Leaderboard After Round 15
1. Chris Judd (Carlton) 96
2. Dane Swan (Collingwood) 92
3. Gary Ablett (Geelong) 83
4. Nick Riewoldt (St Kilda) 80
5. Brad Sewell (Hawthorn) 74
6. Dean Cox (West Coast) 70
7. Kane Cornes (Port Adelaide) 68
7. Nick Dal Santo (St Kilda) 68
9. Sam Mitchell (Hawthorn) 67
10. Jonathon Brown (Brisbane Lions) 63
10. Adam Goodes (Sydney) 63
10. Steve Johnson (Geelong) 63
10. Marc Murphy (Carlton) 63
10. Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood) 63

Decent voting system - makes sense Just out of curiosity who are Adelaide's top five vote getters?

On the Adelaide board the POTY using a 5,4,3,2,1 voting system following round 15 is as follows:

1st Jason Porplyzia 25.5
2nd Scott Thompson 24
3rd Kurt Tipett 22.5
4th Tyson Edwards 19.5
5th Bernie Vince 18

Using your system I would very surprised if there are any crows over 40 votes with the possibility of several hovering around the 30 vote mark.

 

[Here It Is]

If the match is a draw - both teams’ best five players score 10,8,6,4,2
If the margin is 1-9 points - winners get 10,8,6,4,2; losers get 9,7,5,3,1
If the margin is 10-29 points - winners get 10,9,6,5,2; losers get 8,7,4,3,1
If the margin is 30-59 points - winners get 10,9,8,4,3; losers get 7,6,5,2,1
If the margin is 60-99 points - winners get 10,9,8,7,6; losers get 5,4,3,2,1
If the margin is 100+ points - winners get 10,9,8,7,6,5; losers get 4,3,2,1

AFL TOP 10 PLAYERS
Leaderboard After Round 16
1. Chris Judd (Carlton) 106
2. Dane Swan (Collingwood) 92
3. Gary Ablett (Geelong) 91
4. Nick Riewoldt (St Kilda) 84
5. Nick Dal Santo (St Kilda) 76
6. Sam Mitchell (Hawthorn) 75
7. Brad Sewell (Hawthorn) 74
8. Brendon Goddard (St Kilda) 71
9. Dean Cox (West Coast) 70
9. Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood) 70




As requested:


ADELAIDE CROWS BEST PLAYERS
Top 10 After Round 16
22. Tyson Edwards 58
40. Nathan Bock 49
58. Simon Goodwin 41
62. Michael Doughty 39
66. Bernie Vince 37
82. Scott Thompson 31
94. David Mackay 28
95. Kurt Tippett 28
123. Ben Rutten 21
126. Patrick Dangerfield 20

Porplyzia has just 16 points and is ranked 152.

 

[Here It Is]

If the match is a draw - both teams’ best five players score 10,8,6,4,2
If the margin is 1-9 points - winners get 10,8,6,4,2; losers get 9,7,5,3,1
If the margin is 10-29 points - winners get 10,9,6,5,2; losers get 8,7,4,3,1
If the margin is 30-59 points - winners get 10,9,8,4,3; losers get 7,6,5,2,1
If the margin is 60-99 points - winners get 10,9,8,7,6; losers get 5,4,3,2,1
If the margin is 100+ points - winners get 10,9,8,7,6,5; losers get 4,3,2,1

AFL TOP 10 PLAYERS
Leaderboard After Round 19
1. Chris Judd (Carlton) 121
2. Dane Swan (Collingwood) 111
3. Sam Mitchell (Hawthorn) 96
4. Gary Ablett (Geelong) 95
5. Nick Riewoldt (St Kilda) 93
6. Brendon Goddard (St Kilda) 91
7. Nick Dal Santo (St Kilda) 85
8. Matthew Boyd (Western Bulldogs) 81
9. Simon Black (Brisbane Lions) 80
9. Jonathon Brown (Brisbane Lions) 80

 

[Dojo]

This is my top 10 based on this year performances.

1. Gary Ablett
2. Chris Judd
3. Nick Riewoldt
4. Paul Chapman
5. Lenny Hayes
6. Aaron Sandilands
7. Brendon Goddard
8. Leigh Montagna
9. Dane Swan
10. Matthew Boyd

Give or take a few places...

I would have the exact same players, in the same order except I'd have Hayes over Chappy.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Here's mine:

1. Judd
2. Hayes
3. Selwood
4. Ablett
5. Riewoldt
6. Goddard
7. Brown
8. Goodes
9. Black
10. Swan

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Are these lists based on FORM, or just in general?

Form:
1. Swan
2. Brown
3. Didak
4. Selwood
5. Judd
6. Montagna
7. Goodes
8. Dal Santo
9. Pendlebury
10. Reiwoldt

GENRALLY:
1. Judd
2. Ablett
3. Reiwoldt
4. Brown
5. Selwood
6. Hodge
7. Fevola
8. Franklin
9. Goodes
10. Didak

 

[ant22]

Your stats tell the world what they already knew - that Swann is a sheepdog. That's the role the club gives him, so no shame. Every club gives players the role either permanently or week to week of running around behind the herd flicking the ball from side to side looking for an opening. These players are stat flattered in some or all of total touches, (uncontested) marks and effective disposal.

The other thing these guys have in common is that they are not the true match winners. Never comparable to the guys who spend all day winning ball and/or moving it forward.

Your post tells us exactly what you are- another ignorant carlton supporter who cannot possibly give credit were its due when collingwood is involved.


Please explain to me einstein how one can be a sheepdog and be 4th in contested possies and I believe he may be number 1 in clearances(if not number 1 in the top few) ?????????????? He wins alot more contested footy than murphy and gibbs do.

 

[AG]

Are these lists based on FORM, or just in general?

GENRALLY:
1. Judd
2. Ablett
3. Reiwoldt
4. Brown
5. Selwood
6. Hodge
7. Fevola
8. Franklin
9. Goodes
10. Didak

For the whole season. Put Pavlich and Black in for Hodge and Didak and then I'd agree with that list.

This year
1. Nick Riewoldt
2. Gary Ablett
3. Leigh Montagna
4. Dane Swan
5. Lenny Hayes
6. Chris Judd
7. Joel Selwood
8. Nick Dal Santo
9. Jonathan Brown
10. Matthew Boyd

 

[Blues_Man]

Your post tells us exactly what you are- another ignorant carlton supporter who cannot possibly give credit were its due when collingwood is involved.


Please explain to me einstein how one can be a sheepdog and be 4th in contested possies and I believe he may be number 1 in clearances(if not number 1 in the top few) ?????????????? He wins alot more contested footy than murphy and gibbs do.

Possessions mean nothing these days...and swans stats reveal why ..getting cheap possies across haf back with no opponent does not make you a great player ..otherwise Joel Bowden would be a superstar ...Judds possessions are much more damaging than Swans and even Abletts .....must pundits agree.

 

[ant22]

great top ten. but i woul have B.Lake in there over D.Swan i rate D.Swan but when i see him play he get alot of cheap touches but he is still a good player but i think B.Lake should be there.

Obviously missed it when your mob played us and swan had a massive and almost unheard of 17 contested possessions and 7 clearances. If lake has had a better season than swan then I am a monkeys uncle. Swans weakness is that he is not a good long kick although he is a pretty good kick inside 40 metres. This theory that he is just a sheepdogs he gets cheap kicks could not be further from the truth. Stats dont always tell the true story but if in this case(the amount of contested footy and clearances he wins) they tell the exact story. Anyone who does not have swan in their top 10 players of this years based on form has NFI.

 

[ant22]

Possessions mean nothing these days...and swans stats reveal why ..getting cheap possies across haf back with no opponent does not make you a great player ..otherwise Joel Bowden would be a superstar ...Judds possessions are much more damaging than Swans and even Abletts .....must pundits agree.

you are seriosuly dumber than the last bloke. HE IS 4TH IN CONTESTED POSSESSIONS CONTESTED CONTESTED CONTESTED. He had 13 against your bunch of pretenders which I am tipping is more than anyone in your side had that night. He has been tagged most game in the last 6 weeks. He breaks is tag byt the 2nd quarter and clubs realise it is a waste of time trying to go with him. shirley(one of the best taggers going around) went with him the whole night on sat and he still got his 30 ps. He is also 4th in effective kicks and I think he might even lead goal assists.

I am not trying to argue against the merrits of ablett and judd being superb players and users of the ball. They are, although I dont think judd is a better user than ablett as you suggest. But the stats are concrete proof that swan wins plenty of his own footy, and that he is very damaging and at the very least has been in the top 10 players this year, of which I am sure MOST EDUCATED PUNDITS AGREE.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Please explain to me einstein how one can be a sheepdog and be 4th in contested possies and I believe he may be number 1 in clearances(if not number 1 in the top few) ?????????????? He wins alot more contested footy than murphy and gibbs do.

I think you'll find Judd is first in clearances (145 - next best Matt Boyd on 111 - that is a staggering difference). Swan is third on 107 (which I must add is not bad for a "sheepdog").
Boyd has more 1st possessions than Judd though (140 to 132 respectively).
I don't think until I saw these stats that I knew how good a year Matthew Boyd is having.
Judd is also ranked 1st in inside 50s and 3rd in scoring assists. Not saying the stats mean anything. Just putting them out there.
Swan leads the scoring assists, but is 48th in total contested disposals (at least according to pro-stats - if you can direct me to where you got your "4th" from I'll be happy to concede the point). He's ranked first in uncontested disposals in the competition and, although I hesitate to bring it up 1st in total skill errors (I suppose when you're getting the most disposals in the game you can butcher it a bit).
Anyway, these stats sort of put a perspective on things, I believe. Have fun.

 

[Hodgepodge]

Judds possessions are much more damaging than Swans and even Abletts .....must pundits agree.

Swan leads the league in assists.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Judd also leads the goal assists (30 - avg. 1.6 per game)

 

[AG]

I think you'll find Judd is first in clearances (145 - next best Matt Boyd on 111 - that is a staggering difference). Swan is third on 107 (which I must add is not bad for a "sheepdog").

That's a massive difference. I would have thought Boyd would be nearly 1st in that stat. Maybe I'm underrating Judd this year. Are you sure that's right though? 145 is a lot of clearances.

 

[Hodgepodge]

I think you'll find Judd is first in clearances (145 - next best Matt Boyd on 111 - that is a staggering difference).

You have to stop getting your information from pro-stats.

Use Champion Data (afl.com.au) stats.

 

[Hodgepodge]

That's a massive difference. I would have thought Boyd would be nearly 1st in that stat. Maybe I'm underrating Judd this year.

Boyd and Judd are virtually neck and neck in clearances. Judd's ahead by 5 or something like that.

Mitchell is the clearance king, despite playing a few games off half-back, still 3rd in clearances.

 

[Hodgepodge]

Judd also leads the goal assists (30 - avg. 1.6 per game)

lol . . .no

Brad Johnson is the leader with 26 goal assists for the year.

 

[Hodgepodge]

you are seriosuly dumber than the last bloke. HE IS 4TH IN CONTESTED POSSESSIONS CONTESTED CONTESTED CONTESTED. .

He's actually second in contested possessions.

A lot of misinformation floating around these parts . . .

 

[Hodgepodge]

Boyd and Judd are on 108 clearances each.

source: Champion Data stats.

 

[eaglespremiers]

http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_rankings?yr=2009&sp=SE&rt=LT&fc=E3 to check out pro-stats clearances.
How can two stats recorders be so different?

 

[Hodgepodge]

http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_rankings?yr=2009&sp=SE&rt=LT&fc=E3 to check out pro-stats clearances.
How can two stats recorders be so different?

Pro-stats can't even get total goals right

Go with Champion Data. They're the official statisticians of the AFL.

 

[AG]

I don't like putting too much of an emphasis on stats when rating players but these are the stats I would rate:

Clearences:
1. Chris Judd - 108
2. Matthew Boyd - 108
3. Sam Mitchell - 101
4. Jude Bolton - 99
5. Brett Kirk - 95
6. Matt Priddis - 95

I50's
1. Chris Judd - 117
2. Jason Gram - 106
3. Danyle Pearce - 97
4. Dane Swan - 97
5. Leigh Montagna - 96
6. Adam Goodes - 95

Contested Possessions:
1. Chris Judd - 209
2. Dane Swan - 200
3. Gary Ablett - 187
4. Joel Selwood - 184
5. Shane Tuck - 178
6. Adam Goodes - 173

Maybe Judd is the best player this year. I didn't think he would be top of all of them.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Fair enough.
Where is their website? The stats on the AFL website don't have any of the more interesting stats.