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[Snake Charmer]

Patrick Taban - Williamstown Football Club

Williamstown Football Club home of the Seagulls since 1864.

www.williamstownfc.com.au

Have a mate that watched Casey vs Williamstown game on the weekend. Said Taban did a good job on Ben Brown

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Ben Brown

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

2.2

5star

D

7.9

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.6

1star

M

3.7

4star

T

0.9

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

. I can’t find the score so not sure what Brown kicked

I think we lack a decent tall defender with Reid still an unknown. taban could be one for VFL watchers to keep an eye on

 

[andleanback]

2021. Honestly think Bell is one of the worst players on an AFL list.

Bad take. Plentyyy of players that don’t have the tools he has.

 

[ghostdog]

I forgot to like. I was just intending to supplement what you were saying.

$700k to $750k a year vs, what, $500k to $550k? It's a lot but not that much when you're trying to coax a guy out of what appears to be the earlier part of a premiership dynasty. The Brayshaws are a loyal bunch, from what I understand, and they're extremely solid citizens. Then you throw in the post playing network.

I don't think you get Brayshaw's manager to talk to you for less than $850,000. He's 'reduced' to being a role playing wingman and half back at the moment. It wouldn't surprise me if he pushed a Brownlow or 2 if he was given the time to play in the middle.

Mmmmm... I'm not sure you offer 850k to a guy to play an inside role whose success has primarily been found playing on a wing.

 

[citizen-erased]

Mmmmm... I'm not sure you offer 850k to a guy to play an inside role whose success has primarily been found playing on a wing.

He was an excellent inside mid. But oliver, viney and tracc......

Id almost grab him to be an elite winger.

 

[andleanback]

Mmmmm... I'm not sure you offer 850k to a guy to play an inside role whose success has primarily been found playing on a wing.

No one will be offering 850. It’ll likely be 650-750 v 500 odd at melb. Only place I could realistically see him going is freo to play with his brother, plus it’s a team on the up.

 

[ghostdog]

I understand wanting to change the dynamic of our midfield. I don't understand why we do that by getting rid of the one who's actually good defensively.

I'd be happy to trade Shiel back for Green but I don't think they'd entertain that.

 

[eth-dog]

Bad take. Plentyyy of players that don’t have the tools he has.

I'm pretty comfortable in saying that. Bloke is soft, doesn't find the ball all that often and has kicked multiple goals once in his 5 year career, playing almost entirely as a forward.

 

[citizen-erased]

Whats shiel worth?
Whatever we get i imagine lose when he leaves.
Just need to find the midfield to unlock his forward running.

I think its caldwell, parish and shiel. Ideally we find out in the near term.

 

[faible]

Whats shiel worth?

Probably less to another side than he is to us.

We're not getting massive trade offers for Shiel, and it would set us back to a shallower group of genuine midfielders.

We're likely better off keeping him than trading him. He's played some massive games for us, but people just remember the bad kicks.

 

[citizen-erased]

Probably less to another side than he is to us.

We're not getting massive trade offers for Shiel, and it would set us back to a shallower group of genuine midfielders.

We're likely better off keeping him than trading him. He's played some massive games for us, but people just remember the bad kicks.

I liked his game on the weekend

Would like to look at how we unleash it further.

 

[ghostdog]

Probably less to another side than he is to us.

We're not getting massive trade offers for Shiel, and it would set us back to a shallower group of genuine midfielders.

We're likely better off keeping him than trading him. He's played some massive games for us, but people just remember the bad kicks.

Shiel's been awesome this year. Starting to build some continuity after a couple of injury interrupted years. Merrett and Stringer out might be a blessing in disguise for all of them in terms of building chemistry. Shiel and Andy have started to work well together, as have Caldwell and Parish.

 

[Milanista28]

Yeah Shiel has been one of our better mids this year, game flows when he's involved.

 

[ant555]

Whats shiel worth?
Whatever we get i imagine lose when he leaves.
Just need to find the midfield to unlock his forward running.

I think its caldwell, parish and shiel. Ideally we find out in the near term.

The other part is how bad is our depth if we let him go ? We had zero AFL listed midfielders play VFL last weekend.

 

[ghostdog]

He was an excellent inside mid. But oliver, viney and tracc......

Id almost grab him to be an elite winger.

I'm happy to keep the dough for a key position player and watch Martin and Durham develop as our wings.

 

[citizen-erased]

The other part is how bad is our depth if we let him go ? We had zero AFL listed midfielders play VFL last weekend.

Yep

Trading AFL standard mids is not a luxury we can afford

 

[Vindicater]

Trading Shiel would be stupid.

 

[Mikevk123]

We have quite a few players who are available to us through Father Son and NGA. Davey, Munkara and Misiti seem the most likely.

Getting an elite Key Forward should be our priority.

Alwyn Davey

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

Jnr
Anthony Munkara
Josh Misiti
Jaiden Davey
Matt Foley
Carlos Egan

 

[Mikevk123]

Midfield depth should be a must as well. Ely Smith would be my main target.

 

[ant555]

List spots may be an issue.(main list)
Ham - done.
Heppell - maybe retire but may not.
Hurley - depends on if he gets back on the park and what he does but retirement is on the cards.
Cutler - would be unlucky.
Francis - has to find some form and do we need him going forward as a half back.
Geulfi - fringe but is one of a very few that plays with a hard edge.
Stewart - another who does a reasonable job but may get squeezed out.
All fighting for a couple of spots.
Eyre and Brand the longer term prospects that we will get more of a look at as the year goes on but have not had much of a chance to get games and develop. We could delist and rookie but someone else may have a look. Personally would prefer to keep both.
Would be keeping Phillips as he is a cheap back up.

 

[naraku]

How is Dev Robertson fairing at Brisvegas?

 

[Bjchan13]

How is Dev Robertson fairing at Brisvegas?

To play what position? Cant add another 182cm midfielder to what we have

 

[TheGrizz]

How is Dev Robertson fairing at Brisvegas?

Would rather Ely Smith

 

[TheGrizz]

List spots may be an issue.(main list)
Ham - done.
Heppell - maybe retire but may not.
Hurley - depends on if he gets back on the park and what he does but retirement is on the cards.
Cutler - would be unlucky.
Francis - has to find some form and do we need him going forward as a half back.
Geulfi - fringe but is one of a very few that plays with a hard edge.
Stewart - another who does a reasonable job but may get squeezed out.
All fighting for a couple of spots.
Eyre and Brand the longer term prospects that we will get more of a look at as the year goes on but have not had much of a chance to get games and develop. We could delist and rookie but someone else may have a look. Personally would prefer to keep both.
Would be keeping Phillips as he is a cheap back up.

Brand and Eyre were always 3+year projects in terms of development due to their body types and not playing u18s due to Covid.

If we weren't committed to extending them past their 2 year draft deals then it was short sighted list management to draft them.

 

[Mikevk123]

Brand and Eyre were always 3+year projects in terms of development due to their body types and not playing u18s due to Covid.

If we weren't committed to extending them past their 2 year draft deals then it was short sighted list management to draft them.

Better served as key defenders as well imo.

 

[Bjchan13]

Would rather Ely Smith

Would be far cheaper too