Team Mgmt. An early crack at 2017 best 22

[WWSD]

Essendon's 2016 best 22

B: Mark Baguley, Cale Hooker, James Gwilt

HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Michael Hurley, Michael Hibberd

C: Brendon Goddard, Jobe Watson, David Myers

HF: David Zaharakis, Patrick Ambrose, Jayden Laverde

F: Shaun Edwards, Joe Daniher, Orazio Fantasia

R: Matthew Leuenberger, Dyson Heppell, Zach Merrett

INT: Craig Bird, Brent Stanton, Travis Colyer, Kyle Langford


Depth
Tom Bellchambers (79 games)
Nick O'Brien (14 games)
Adam Cooney (230 games)
Jason Ashby (10 games)
Tayte Pears (70 games)
Jackson Merrett (43 games)
Alex Browne (11 games)
Ariel Steinberg (10 games)
Elliot Kavanagh (12 games)
Martin Gleeson (31 games)
Nick Kommer (19 games)
Heath Hocking (124 games)
Ben Howlett (117 games)
Will Hams (5 games)
Shaun McKernan (43 games)


Predictions
Ladder Position: 7th-9th
Club Best & Fairest: Dyson Heppell
Leading Goal Kicker: Joe Daniher (37)
All-Australian contenders: Dyson Heppell, Cale Hooker, Michael Hurley, Mark Baguley
Most Brownlow votes: Dyson Heppell (15-20)
Most Improved player: Orazio Fantasia

 

[Cristiano Ronaldo]

Essendon's 2016 best 22

B: Mark Baguley, Cale Hooker, James Gwilt

HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Michael Hurley, Michael Hibberd

C: Brendon Goddard, Jobe Watson, David Myers

HF: David Zaharakis, Patrick Ambrose, Jayden Laverde

F: Shaun Edwards, Joe Daniher, Orazio Fantasia

R: Matthew Leuenberger, Dyson Heppell, Zach Merrett

INT: Craig Bird, Brent Stanton, Travis Colyer, Kyle Langford


Depth
Tom Bellchambers (79 games)
Nick O'Brien (14 games)
Adam Cooney (230 games)
Jason Ashby (10 games)
Tayte Pears (70 games)
Jackson Merrett (43 games)
Alex Browne (11 games)
Ariel Steinberg (10 games)
Elliot Kavanagh (12 games)
Martin Gleeson (31 games)
Nick Kommer (19 games)
Heath Hocking (124 games)
Ben Howlett (117 games)
Will Hams (5 games)
Shaun McKernan (43 games)


Predictions
Ladder Position: 7th-9th
Club Best & Fairest: Dyson Heppell
Leading Goal Kicker: Joe Daniher (37)
All-Australian contenders: Dyson Heppell, Cale Hooker, Michael Hurley, Mark Baguley
Most Brownlow votes: Dyson Heppell (15-20)
Most Improved player: Orazio Fantasia

Not a bad effort I'd take out Ambrose and put in McKernan and also find room for Hocking and Gleeson.

 

[Its Manbearpig]

Essendon's 2016 best 22

B: Mark Baguley, Cale Hooker, James Gwilt

HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Michael Hurley, Michael Hibberd

C: Brendon Goddard, Jobe Watson, David Myers

HF: David Zaharakis, Patrick Ambrose, Jayden Laverde

F: Shaun Edwards, Joe Daniher, Orazio Fantasia

R: Matthew Leuenberger, Dyson Heppell, Zach Merrett

INT: Craig Bird, Brent Stanton, Travis Colyer, Kyle Langford


Depth
Tom Bellchambers (79 games)
Nick O'Brien (14 games)
Adam Cooney (230 games)
Jason Ashby (10 games)
Tayte Pears (70 games)
Jackson Merrett (43 games)
Alex Browne (11 games)
Ariel Steinberg (10 games)
Elliot Kavanagh (12 games)
Martin Gleeson (31 games)
Nick Kommer (19 games)
Heath Hocking (124 games)
Ben Howlett (117 games)
Will Hams (5 games)
Shaun McKernan (43 games)


Predictions
Ladder Position: 7th-9th
Club Best & Fairest: Dyson Heppell
Leading Goal Kicker: Joe Daniher (37)
All-Australian contenders: Dyson Heppell, Cale Hooker, Michael Hurley, Mark Baguley
Most Brownlow votes: Dyson Heppell (15-20)
Most Improved player: Orazio Fantasia

Quite a good effort there but I'd also agree with what Cristiano Ronaldo said above for changes.
I also expect more goals out of Daniher rather than just equalling this years total.

 

[Loonerty]

Essendon's 2016 best 22

B: Mark Baguley, Cale Hooker, James Gwilt

HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Michael Hurley, Michael Hibberd

C: Brendon Goddard, Jobe Watson, David Myers

HF: David Zaharakis, Patrick Ambrose, Jayden Laverde

F: Shaun Edwards, Joe Daniher, Orazio Fantasia

R: Matthew Leuenberger, Dyson Heppell, Zach Merrett

INT: Craig Bird, Brent Stanton, Travis Colyer, Kyle Langford


Depth
Tom Bellchambers (79 games)
Nick O'Brien (14 games)
Adam Cooney (230 games)
Jason Ashby (10 games)
Tayte Pears (70 games)
Jackson Merrett (43 games)
Alex Browne (11 games)
Ariel Steinberg (10 games)
Elliot Kavanagh (12 games)
Martin Gleeson (31 games)
Nick Kommer (19 games)
Heath Hocking (124 games)
Ben Howlett (117 games)
Will Hams (5 games)
Shaun McKernan (43 games)


Predictions
Ladder Position: 7th-9th
Club Best & Fairest: Dyson Heppell
Leading Goal Kicker: Joe Daniher (37)
All-Australian contenders: Dyson Heppell, Cale Hooker, Michael Hurley, Mark Baguley
Most Brownlow votes: Dyson Heppell (15-20)
Most Improved player: Orazio Fantasia

Pretty good effort. Like the others have said, would throw in McKernan over Ambrose and make sure Hocking+Gleeson are in the side, probably for Dempsey and Langford.

 

[Halftimehero]

Essendon's 2016 best 22

B: Mark Baguley, Cale Hooker, James Gwilt

HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Michael Hurley, Michael Hibberd

C: Brendon Goddard, Jobe Watson, David Myers

HF: David Zaharakis, Patrick Ambrose, Jayden Laverde

F: Shaun Edwards, Joe Daniher, Orazio Fantasia

R: Matthew Leuenberger, Dyson Heppell, Zach Merrett

INT: Craig Bird, Brent Stanton, Travis Colyer, Kyle Langford


Depth
Tom Bellchambers (79 games)
Nick O'Brien (14 games)
Adam Cooney (230 games)
Jason Ashby (10 games)
Tayte Pears (70 games)
Jackson Merrett (43 games)
Alex Browne (11 games)
Ariel Steinberg (10 games)
Elliot Kavanagh (12 games)
Martin Gleeson (31 games)
Nick Kommer (19 games)
Heath Hocking (124 games)
Ben Howlett (117 games)
Will Hams (5 games)
Shaun McKernan (43 games)


Predictions
Ladder Position: 7th-9th
Club Best & Fairest: Dyson Heppell
Leading Goal Kicker: Joe Daniher (37)
All-Australian contenders: Dyson Heppell, Cale Hooker, Michael Hurley, Mark Baguley
Most Brownlow votes: Dyson Heppell (15-20)
Most Improved player: Orazio Fantasia

Bellchambers, Mckernan, Hocking and Gleeson in for Dempsey, Ambrose, Edwards and Stanton/Laverde/Langford

 

[nonamehack]

Bellchambers, Mckernan, Hocking and Gleeson in for Dempsey, Ambrose, Edwards and Stanton/Laverde/Langford

With a slowish midfield I don't think you can have 4 ruckmen in team (TBC leuy McK and Daniher) You cant always have one resting on the bench as it would stuff with rotations. Backs would have field day running out past TBC Daniher and McKernan

 

[harry_caul]

With a slowish midfield I don't think you can have 4 ruckmen in team (TBC leuy McK and Daniher) You cant always have one resting on the bench as it would stuff with rotations. Backs would have field day running out past TBC Daniher and McKernan

Oh haven't you been reading bigfooty? They're not all ruckmen. Daniher is a chf and should never be developed into a ruckman (his positioning is bad apparently). McKernan is a dynamic crumbing forward. Bellchambers is the spearhead of the attack. So there's only one ruckman in that side. Get it straight.

 

[Halftimehero]

Oh haven't you been reading bigfooty? They're not all ruckmen. Daniher is a chf and should never be developed into a ruckman (his positioning is bad apparently). McKernan is a dynamic crumbing forward. Bellchambers is the spearhead of the attack. So there's only one ruckman in that side. Get it straight.

Well Daniher isn't a ruckman, he is putrid when he goes in there. We need to play two ruckman in Luey and T Bell, then it leaves Mckernan or Ambrose as the other forward, give me Mckernan every day of the week.

 

[Iamcarlton]

FB Baguley Hooker Hibberd
HB Gleeson Hurley Goddard
C Stanton Heppell Colyer
HF Z. Merrett Daniher Zaharakis
FF McKernan Bellchambers Edwards
R Luenberger Watson Myers
INT Bird Hocking Laverde Langford

Could easily include guys like Fantasia, pick 4 and 5, etc.

As a blues fan I hate to say it but not a bad side but as with us god help if you get many injuries look light on in KP and would doubt McKernan bellchambers and leunberger will play in the same side if so makes for a very slow fwd line

 

[nonamehack]

Well Daniher isn't a ruckman, he is putrid when he goes in there. We need to play two ruckman in Luey and T Bell, then it leaves Mckernan or Ambrose as the other forward, give me Mckernan every day of the week.

I agree Danaher isn't a ruckman, neither is McKernan(competes well). I was more just talking about mobility over positional.

My belief is to kick a winning score Hooker needs to play forward. Therefore you'd have Hooker Danaher and maybe third McKernan when resting Ruck. Only problem is only need to find AA replacement FB

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[harry_caul]

Well Daniher isn't a ruckman, he is putrid when he goes in there. We need to play two ruckman in Luey and T Bell, then it leaves Mckernan or Ambrose as the other forward, give me Mckernan every day of the week.

Well if Daniher isn't a ruckman he better hurry up and become one because he's not built to be a key forward and having ruck size players in key positions will go on killing us forever if we don't wake up.

 

[Smokin]

pretty hard to do without understading the Woosha football philosophy and style of play we will take into the season.

Will we go for 'best available' right now - or, like West Coast did numerous times under Woosha, play kids in positions and look to the future - which has seem him have quick turn arounds multiple times?

Where does he see guys like Stanton/Goddard/Jobe fitting in? For example, could we play Jobe predominantly as a deep forward, with lesser stints in the midfield in order to extend his career by a season or 2?

Where does Bird fit in? Is his best position a defensive forward? - attacking half backs had field days with us last year.

Modern footy - key offensive positions are attacking back line players - who are we going to use? Our release wingers - are we going to try to put young racehorses in the position to grow into ie Fantasia on a wing?

Is Mckernan viewed as a forwad (surely has to be)? If all rucks are fit, surely Tbell and he are fighting for one position. What do we make of Ambrose? Is Dempsey a fwd or back? What is the make up of our fwd line?

Will he have left field ideas from outside - and total surprise us?

I think it can be a really exciting year - a lot to work with, and a lot of young talent to bring through. How he handles this balance is gonna be intriguing.

 

[Halftimehero]

Well if Daniher isn't a ruckman he better hurry up and become one because he's not built to be a key forward and having ruck size players in key positions will go on killing us forever if we don't wake up.

Do you really not see Joe as a key forward?

 

[harry_caul]

Do you really not see Joe as a key forward?

I think he's done well considering his circumstances, but ruck sized key forwards are problematic for a number of reasons. The key defenders of the opposition cause all kinds of havoc against us. Look at the saints game when Delaney was bursting through the middle creating an option in the corridor on the counter and kicking lace out to Bruce 20m from goal. Look at Anzac day when Frost was peeling off to help out the other defenders spoiling Carlisle for instance on the odd occasion he did manage to get loose. Rance bombs us on the counter almost every time we play against Richmond. You just can't allow the opposition's biggest and strongest defenders to impose themselves like that. Whatever our gameplan happens to be at any given time it will be derailed.

 

[hurlygurdy]

pretty hard to do without understading the Woosha football philosophy and style of play we will take into the season.

Will we go for 'best available' right now - or, like West Coast did numerous times under Woosha, play kids in positions and look to the future - which has seem him have quick turn arounds multiple times?

Where does he see guys like Stanton/Goddard/Jobe fitting in? For example, could we play Jobe predominantly as a deep forward, with lesser stints in the midfield in order to extend his career by a season or 2?

Where does Bird fit in? Is his best position a defensive forward? - attacking half backs had field days with us last year.

Modern footy - key offensive positions are attacking back line players - who are we going to use? Our release wingers - are we going to try to put young racehorses in the position to grow into ie Fantasia on a wing?

Is Mckernan viewed as a forwad (surely has to be)? If all rucks are fit, surely Tbell and he are fighting for one position. What do we make of Ambrose? Is Dempsey a fwd or back? What is the make up of our fwd line?

Will he have left field ideas from outside - and total surprise us?

I think it can be a really exciting year - a lot to work with, and a lot of young talent to bring through. How he handles this balance is gonna be intriguing.

Hows this for a team that doesn't play the kids?
Put a loose man in defense (maybe Gwilt?) to play deep essentially assisting Pears. Look to play rebound footy with a speedy midfield and forward line that reeks of experience and muscle. Dempsey, Bird and Merrett to lock it in and crumb, Goddard/Mckernan to play the third tall. **** me, we might actually kick some goals!
FB Baguley Pears Gwilt
HB Stanton Hurley Hibberd
C Gleeson Heppell Colyer
HF Z. Merrett Hooker Bird
FF Dempsey Daniher Goddard
R Luenberger Watson Myers
INT McKernan Hocking Zaharakis Laverde

I'd like TRB to consider allowing a weakness (Pears) and then covering for it in such a way that it sets up play. The fact is, that if we could make it work, then we go from being a fundamentally flawed side, to being a side that looks like it could be anything.
Just look at that forward line again;
HF Z. Merrett Hooker Bird
FF Dempsey Daniher Goddard
Can't you almost taste it?

 

[Jade]

Well if Daniher isn't a ruckman he better hurry up and become one because he's not built to be a key forward and having ruck size players in key positions will go on killing us forever if we don't wake up.

Errr....... eh?

 

[harry_caul]

Errr....... eh?

I want key forwards that can change direction on the lead. This is the best way to get a yard on your marker. For a ruck sized forward this is difficult because a good key defender can change direction as sharply as any ruckman. It is also easier for the midfielder kicking inside 50 to have agile targets that can lead sharply in the direction of the ball carrier. ie: lead towards the boundary then cut back towards the kicker at the right moment makes the kicker's job easier. I also want forwards that continue to pose some threat when the ball hits the ground otherwise the defender's job becomes so much easier and he will attain the confidence to peel off and impose himself by counterattacking and assisting with counterattacks. Opposition defenders need to be distracted and rendered as uncomfortable as possible. They should not be allowed to feel they can do as they please because their direct opponent can only threaten at particular times and in singular circumstances. It is also easy for strong key defenders yo break the rythym of tall, ruck sized players by stepping into them or into their path at critical times as the ball is coming in. I don't expect you to understand what I'm saying, but I prefer a mobile forward line not one that is cluttered up with rucks. I want genuine key forwards like Hawthorn not makeshifts and rucks masquerading as key forwards.

 

[DapperJong]

ya dun goofed

 

[harry_caul]

ya dun goofed

Obla di obla da.

 

[half time raffle]

B: Baguley Hooker Francis
HB: Hibberd Hurley Fantasia
C: Colyer Watson Bird
HF: Laverde McKernan Zaharakis
F: Langford Daniher Edwards
R: Luenberger Heppell Z Merret
Bench: Myers, Goddard, Stanton, Bellchambers

Good balance between clearance and run, not too tall, I think the balance is right.

 

[harry_caul]

I want to hear dapper Jong's theory about how a key forward should operate.

 

[Jade]

I want key forwards that can change direction on the lead. This is the best way to get a yard on your marker. For a ruck sized forward this is difficult because a good key defender can change direction as sharply as any ruckman. It is also easier for the midfielder kicking inside 50 to have agile targets that can lead sharply in the direction of the ball carrier. ie: lead towards the boundary then cut back towards the kicker at the right moment makes the kicker's job easier. I also want forwards that continue to pose some threat when the ball hits the ground otherwise the defender's job becomes so much easier and he will attain the confidence to peel off and impose himself by counterattacking and assisting with counterattacks. Opposition defenders need to be distracted and rendered as uncomfortable as possible. They should not be allowed to feel they can do as they please because their direct opponent can only threaten at particular times and in singular circumstances. It is also easy for strong key defenders yo break the rythym of tall, ruck sized players by stepping into them or into their path at critical times as the ball is coming in. I don't expect you to understand what I'm saying, but I prefer a mobile forward line not one that is cluttered up with rucks. I want genuine key forwards like Hawthorn not makeshifts and rucks masquerading as key forwards.

Look mate, you're perfectly entitled to your opinion, and I respect that, but geez I disagree with so much of what you've said here.

For a start, if Gunston, Roughead and co all of a sudden put their hand up and declare an intent to play for Essendon, great, go out and sign them. Until then, claiming you want a forward line like the best forward line in the league is kind of...... odd.

I'd love young Gazza and ol' Fyfe as well.

Your assessment of Daniher is bizarre IMO. He's quick. Damn quick actually for a player of his size. Certainly quick enough to be problematic for any key defender in the league. His height, pace, and marking strength make him ideal as a leading forward.

As for below his feet, he's not Franklin by any stretch, but he's proven quite adequate at presenting a contest at ground level.

In short, Daniher is as promosing as any younger tall forward in the league. Maybe even more so considering that he's had to carry the forward line being fed by one of the poorest midfields in the league.

Just.... geez.....

 

[DapperJong]

I want to hear dapper Jong's theory about how a key forward should operate.

you'll have to woo me

i'm worth something you know

i don't just do anything that anyone asks me

 

[Big Fresh]

you'll have to woo me

i'm worth something you know

i don't just do anything that anyone asks me

How much do you charge per hour for footy analysis?

 

[DapperJong]

How much do you charge per hour for footy analysis?

coupla bucks

or a cig if you have one