Anthony Albanese - How long? -3-
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ABC is the largest progressive outlet and even then it's conditional, and less so in recent times. I.e. they are reasonably progressive on social issues, the environment etc, but less so on economic issues, unions etc. Similar to American media that people call left-wing like CNN. Socially more progressive, but in favour of the pro corporate economic status quo.
There's The Guardian, The Conversation, a few other smaller independent journalists/commentators like Michael West, friendlyjordies (more left on unions, economics than social issues).
None can really compete with NewsCorp, NineFairfax (not as conservative, but for the status quo), commercial TV (often just sensationalist fluff that ends up favouring the status quo), talkback radio etc.
You guys have spammed the thread with the rubbish and ruined it, I'm just calling it out.
Tbf most of them blaming the media are Greens voters sad pathetic people , imagine voting for the Greens being on an anonymous site you can hide that fact.
He "produces" media that favours corporate and powerful special interests that seek to exploit people and/or resources, instead of serving the majority of the populace which news media is supposed to represent (along with government).
So much of the crap posted on here is stuff you would just get laughed out of the room if it was said out in real life.
News media should be apolitical and serve the populace in a healthy democracy, not those at the top. The ABC as I've just posted about, does a mixed job of this, but better than NewsCorp.Didn’t realise news corp is required to be A Political. Guess we have the ABC for that
ABC has pockets of significant left wing bias but overall on most important basic reporting I think it's very balanced. Definitely the go to spot for news.
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Could have just said Option 3.
So Guardian and Shanks can offer one sided commentary but Murdoch can't? It appears the crime isn't providing one sided commentary (because that would be quite hypocritical) the crime is just that he does it successfully and is a different political persuasion. I am sure if Shanks or Guardian held more market share there wouldn't be an issue from those that sprout Newscorp crap.
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Friendlyjordies backs up what he says with fact
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It's perhaps instructional to look at the Murdoch response to second Gulf War and washup in the UK and Australia. Where Howard is still deified by his press here, Tony Blair is constantly condemned by his UK titles for doing pretty much the same thing.
I didn't just say option 3 because, I'm unaware of what you considered to be right-wing. If my response is what you consider to be right-wing, then sure.
I've already stated that news media should be apolitical and serve the people (in a healthy democracy), rather than the most rich and powerful. If there are political parties that do this, or are better than alternatives, then I would hope news media comes down "on their side" most of the time, rather than spruik policies/positions that disproportionately favour the most rich and powerful.
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He dresses up lies as jokes and puts special effects and a special voice on. Yes the viewer can tell its a bit jokey but theres still un underlining 'hidden truth' behind it.
I got through 1m35sec of his latest political video 'Why Is Australia Playing a Dangerous Game'
Mastercard, QANTAS etc "don't pay shit in tax". The article he is referencing is about income tax. They probably pay GST.
A fake retort by Sky News about comfy business class chairs. Yes we know its a joke but its riles up viewers to hate Sky News.
Sky News 'where schizophrenia meets dementia' can you imagine a traditional media making this joke. It would raise eyebrows for sure but because of the voice and SFX its ok. Also can we fact check the claim?
Pay 'fair share or dine and dash'. Wouldn't a fair share be what is legally allowed with the rules?
Says 'those that aren't paying what they should be paying is around 100%'. Sorry where is that based on fact? Again yes we can tell its a bit jokey, but it still gives off a vibe to the viewer. I couldn't make it past there as it was too funny you said he deals in facts then he threw this out there.
You realise this whole joint is just a safe space bubble?
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All of the above.
All of which is neither here nor there until considered in the light of the other fact, that appears to have escaped you (or perhaps you’re playing dumb?) namely that he does all this with a particularly unethical line of journalism.
It’s easily verified that Murdoch’s journals are caught out lying more than many others. Count how often they have to issue a retraction compared to a journal like The Guardian.
Perhaps you’re unfamiliar with Fox News having to cough up a whopping $787 million to Dominion Voting Systems for the phenomenal number of flat-out lies Fox told about the 2020 US election? (After it had initially endorsed the result, and then, wait for it - seen its viewership numbers plummet as a consequmce of that endorsement)
As Fox News settles its lawsuit with Dominion, will it make any difference to how it reports?
The news channel broadcast many lies about the 2020 US presidential election – and it has a swathe of other legal action waiting for it.
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It’s easily verified that his tabloids engage in gutter journalism. The appalling phone hacking saga is just one example.
It’s easily verified that the notion of “balance” in The Australian, his so-called “quality” broadsheet, often comprises one journalist examining the merits of a politician or a policy in considered fashion, and half a dozen other rabid attack dogs lining up to viciously tear the poor subject to shreds, day after relentless day.
Hey, how’s about we stop this silly dancing around and you just come out with your point? I’m tired of explaining things which are common knowledge to an anonymous schmoe.
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Given many of us who still prefer Labor over the Coalition, are unhappy with Labor and attack them from the left (given their conservative shift), I mean, you can have whatever misconceptions you want to have I guess.
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You’re welcome to point out just how wrong everyone is here in the so-called echo chamber, but I note that you haven’t addressed anything, so put up or jog along.Na just describing these threads, it’s nothing but an echo chamber but if it makes you feel good hanging
Around holding each others hands whilst blaming everything bad on Dutton, Abbott and even Howardyou do you. Its actually funny
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A sense of history is well worth developing. Your posts might actually start to hold some weight.
Albo’s done some good things and has been a big disappointment in many ways, Dutton’s a dreadful amoral alternative, whose signature nuclear policy attempts to ignore the laws of mathematics.
Is that so hard to fathom?
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Thats his style though. He knows what he's doing and does it well.
Na mate i know I can’t have a balanced discussion here so I prefer not. It’s like arguing with the cheerleaders about the quarterback. Weight of numbers are against me so I’ll let you guys have your little book club.
Makes me laugh that you can call out Dutton for all his wrong doings yet still be so threatened by him.
