Are Hawthorn going to do a Brisbane?

[frenchfri12]

By which I mean drop off a cliff. Maybe not this year, but all their key players, espically their midfield are old, and there's every chance they could all retire/have a huge form drop all at the same time. Simple question, are Hawthorn going to slowly slide down the ladder or are they going to crash from the top 4 to the bottom 4 over 12 months?

Brisbane 2001 and 2002 : Won the QF, PF, and won the GF
Brisbane 2003: Lost the interstate QF to Collingwood, won the SF, won an interstate PF against Sydney, who beat 1st placed Port in week 1, before slaughtering their QF opponent Collingwood by 10 goals.
Brisbane 2004: Won the QF and the PF, lost the GF

Hawthorn 2013 and 2014: Won the QF, PF and won the GF
Hawthorn 2015: Lost the interstate QF to West Coast, won the SF, won an interstate PF against the 1st placed team Freo, before slaughtering their QF opponent West Coast by 10 goals
Hawthorn 2016: Out in straight sets?

Notice how well they line up, espcially 2003 and 2015, one year before their dynasties ended?

 

[sobrave]

Probably. Who did freo do a?

 

[threesixpio]

Probably not. Not if Clarko stays around. Will hopefully do a Bulldogs. That's the way to do it.

 

[SilentHunter_]

Probably. Who did freo do a?

Freo.

 

[Van_Dyke]

Probably. Who did freo do a?

A titanic

 

[SA HAWK]

I have no doubt we will fall off the cliff next year.

Can't complain about the last 5-6 years though.

 

[RUNVS]

They will go down the ladder when Mitchell, Hodge, Gibson and Burgoyne all retire but I don't see them falling off a cliff.

 

[Old_Man_James]

One of the things that I think will prevent Hawthorn ever falling off a cliff, is that their forwards are all still young and usually very, very efficient. So even if they get smashed across the field from the few amounts of entries they get I think they will still win enough games to never go full Brisbane.

 

[Adz]

Hodge, Lewis, Gibson and Burgyone will all be gone by end of 2017.

 

[Wayne Swan]

Have a few getting old but they are still a destination club for FA and players wanting out of other clubs.

Dominant era may be closing but won't fall too far.

Fourth flag looking shaky, first final will tell the tale.

 

[SA HAWK]

Hodge, Lewis, Gibson and Burgyone will all be gone by end of 2017.

Probably and Mitchell too.

 

[Donakebab]

Hopefully.

 

[RUNVS]

Hodge, Lewis, Gibson and Burgyone will all be gone by end of 2017.

I think Lewis will still be around.

 

[SA HAWK]

Have a few getting old but they are still a destination club for FA and players wanting out of other clubs.

Dominant era may be closing but won't fall too far.

Fourth flag looking shaky, first final will tell the tale.

Are we still going to be a destination club when we slide that is the question?

 

[threesixpio]

One of the things that I think will prevent Hawthorn ever falling off a cliff, is that their forwards are all still young and usually very, very efficient. So even if they get smashed across the field from the few amounts of entries they get I think they will still win enough games to never go full Brisbane.

Need some talls. No one is making a bloody contest.

They ain;t so young either. Pops is getting on. Bruest, Cyril and Gunner have a few more years

 

[RUNVS]

Are we still going to be a destination club when we slide that is the question?

Will be for a year or two after the slide.

 

[Nankervis brothers]

You can guarantee it.

 

[Headless]

They'll miss the finals for a couple of years and then win the flag in 2021, 2022 and 2023. And we'll all still hate them for being good.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

Have a few getting old but they are still a destination club for FA and players wanting out of other clubs.

Dominant era may be closing but won't fall too far.

Fourth flag looking shaky, first final will tell the tale.

Not sure we are (destination club for FA). Frawley came to win flags (if we are crap that won't happen). Meanwhile, Franklin, Suckling, Young, Ellis and a handful of others have left through FA. 1 player in and 6 out does not sound all that destination to me, particularly if we are falling down the ladder.

 

[sonnywalters]

Probably not. Not if Clarko stays around. Will hopefully do a Bulldogs. That's the way to do it.

A Bulldogs? What is that? Never make a GF ever?

 

[RUNVS]

Not sure we are (destination club for FA). Frawley came to win flags (if we are crap that won't happen). Meanwhile, Franklin, Suckling, Young, Ellis and a handful of others have left through FA. 1 player in and 6 out does not sound all that destination to me, particularly if we are falling down the ladder.

Lake wanted to come to the Hawks to play in flags, and from memory so did Burgoyne.

 

[sonnywalters]

When Hodge, Gibson, Mitchell, Burgoyne and Lewis go the Hawks are stuffed.
And that time is very very close.

 

[RUNVS]

When Hodge, Gibson, Mitchell, Burgoyne and Lewis go the Hawks are stuffed.
And that time is very very close.

Have we actually seen a decrease in output from those guys though? To me Hawthorn's problem is not their senior players as they are still playing at a high level, it is their 17 to 22 players who are not as strong as they were in the past because of retirements and other clubs poaching them promising first team football. They just don't have the depth they had a year or two ago.

 

[DT2000]

They won't stay up the top whilst turning over talent/rebuilding but Brisbane is a basket case off the field and the Hawks are set for life so the answer would be simple, no.

 

[Smithdogmaddog]

Will do what Sydney have done twice in 10 years, Geelong did the past 2 seasons and Hawthorn did between 09 and 11 to an extent. Go down to the bottom part of the 8 or just outside and rebuild from there, dont need to necessarily completely bottom out.