Australian Wrestling thread

[nobbyiscool]

I really rate him and hope he continues to do great but you yourself would know that BJW is firmly an independent promotion that doesn't really compare to globally recognised brands such as AEW, NJPW, NOAH, WWE etc.



All Japan I think for the most part is a legacy brand now. Kistan could probably tell us more but I don't really consider them a big deal so much in 2024, 25-30 years ago though is a completely different story.



Xena trained with PWA and wrestled with them and their affiliates for the first 3 years of her career. She worked 10 Black Label shows, not one. She also wrestled at MCW 5 times, not just once. After she left, apart from one off appearances in Newcastle, Perth and Sydney her Australian resume boasts 10 FWA matches (Which is a relationship she got from being PWA affiliated). If she isn't a PWA wrestler what would you associate her as? An FWA wrestler?

My point is that all the best talent aren't in those 5 promotions. Do you genuinely think that none of Australia's best wrestlers wrestle outside of those 5 promotions? What about when one of the big 5 recruit from elsewhere?



This is a good example of my above point, you really rate Eugenie, Eugenie has predominantly wrestled for All Star out of Sydney (Who MCW got Erika Reid Vs Eugenie from) and IPW out of the Gold Coast. She has now been recognised by the "bigger" promotions. Was Eugenie always a star or did she only become one when MCW and PWA booked her?

You know, if you're going to re-write/reinterpret what people have written to suit your own asinine argument you're just going to go back on block. It's insincere, it's akin to lying.

 

[itchee40]

All Japan is the biggest gainer of the last 2 years. They pretty much sell out Korakuen 95% of shows now. Best young stars + 2 of their top guys have a regional travel program in the Sendai region and that's pushed them to number 3 behind Stardom and Njpw. They've developed 6 people at once and all come up together. Really changed the game for them.

Bjw still gets sponsors and funding (I sponsor one of the part time guys there) but I've been to shows that have drawn 50 people this year. That's said if I had to pick somewhere to learn it would be BJW. Zeke is very lucky he gets endless reps there with Nomura, Abe and co.

BJW are also one of the few companies left that still do long tours, so he gets more bang for his buck


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[auswrestlinginsider]

All Japan is the biggest gainer of the last 2 years. They pretty much sell out Korakuen 95% of shows now. Best young stars + 2 of their top guys have a regional travel program in the Sendai region and that's pushed them to number 3 behind Stardom and Njpw. They've developed 6 people at once and all come up together. Really changed the game for them.

Bjw still gets sponsors and funding (I sponsor one of the part time guys there) but I've been to shows that have drawn 50 people this year. That's said if I had to pick somewhere to learn it would be BJW. Zeke is very lucky he gets endless reps there with Nomura, Abe and co.

I wasn't aware of the rise of AJPW so going off what you're saying I'd count them as major also I guess, they definitely weren't major when Slade Mercer wrestled there though.

You know, if you're going to re-write/reinterpret what people have written to suit your own asinine argument you're just going to go back on block. It's insincere, it's akin to lying.

Misinterpretation happens sometimes, my point is simply there are wrestlers outside of the top 5 promotions deserving of big overseas opportunities. Sure, the "bigger promotions" should have it happen more frequently but we as a group can't come up with anyone outside of those 5 promotions who has got one ever, I'm sure there's someone but not in the past 10-15 years.

 

[Cleavy]

All Japan is the biggest gainer of the last 2 years. They pretty much sell out Korakuen 95% of shows now. Best young stars + 2 of their top guys have a regional travel program in the Sendai region and that's pushed them to number 3 behind Stardom and Njpw. They've developed 6 people at once and all come up together. Really changed the game for them.

Bjw still gets sponsors and funding (I sponsor one of the part time guys there) but I've been to shows that have drawn 50 people this year. That's said if I had to pick somewhere to learn it would be BJW. Zeke is very lucky he gets endless reps there with Nomura, Abe and co.

never hear any buzz for All Japan though.

 

[kistan]

never hear any buzz for All Japan though.

They've sold out Shin-Kiba tonight and almost sold out Korakuen next Tuesday. https://www.ajpw.tv/ great shows. So easy to watch.

 

[Poison]

It is remarkable that two blokes from YouTube are about 100x better than that fella from Qatar.

 

[kistan]

****ing hell. What a show

 

[kistan]

Nobby man. You missed out. The show was incredible

 

[nobbyiscool]

Watching the twitter feed tonight, I can only imagine that Rocky also forgot that there was a Wrestle Rampage show tonight that Tommy was booked on.

There were a few people that made sense as the 5th man, this wasn't one of them!

 

[Poison]

I know this is inexorably heading toward Ugg/Slex but the bloke I reckon they should put the rocket on is Gabriel Aeros. He is so good and so popular.

Alas, we’ve got a three stages of hell tag match instead. I have no idea what that entails but it’d be great if the final stage was decided by a penalty shootout.

Rapid v Waterman was every bit as good as advertised. It almost made me forget about his match against “the first wrestler in Qatar” (though we might reasonably expect that fella to improve when he finds a second to practice with).

Finally, special mention to Lucas Fantasia - on a quality show, coming in without being known to the audience, he was really good.

There was no one match as good as Brooks/Ali, but it was stronger top to bottom than the last show. Though I would be helped to understand the finish to Tuckman v Lucky. I assume Tuckman falling off the ropes was a spot but I looked away.

Endgame should be fun. I like that it’s a Sunday too.

 

[kistan]

Watching the twitter feed tonight, I can only imagine that Rocky also forgot that there was a Wrestle Rampage show tonight that Tommy was booked on.

There were a few people that made sense as the 5th man, this wasn't one of them!

Mikey Broderick was amazing in the role... just wait to see it first

 

[nobbyiscool]

Mikey Broderick was amazing in the role... just wait to see it first

I don't doubt it for a second, Mikey is incredible, it's never made sense that he isn't a regular cos he's over as hell. (I wonder if we all should've guessed it with his boy Fantasia on the show.)

But when you've spent the whole year telling a story, and you get to the penultimate show and don't have the elements of that story in place to piece together? That has to be considered a fail.

They must've known for a couple of months they wouldn't have Tommy. They have known for months that they wouldn't have Delta. I guess the next most obvious was Buddy, and maybe he's a guy they wouldn't have been able to book til the last minute, if at all. If they'd pulled a lever earlier in the show, it could've even been Jarvis. And after that (I have no idea whether he was on WR's show tonight) you're probably just reaching for an Adelaide connection that the crowd is familiar with, so Nick Armstrong probably might've made the next most sense.

Lucky for them they had Ugg I guess, it would've been pretty easy to bail on the show and spend a few days in Japan on holiday, or even looking for more bookings.

How did the NCs vs M3 come across? Was it just a retcon from the last show?

While I wasn't keen on going, I look forward to watching it when the stream's available. I could potentially be swayed into the Pavillion if this show is as amazing as you make it sound.