Autopsy Autopsy vs St Kilda - Round 11, 2021

[Not Snake Baker]

I missed the game but it looks like Mason Wood had a good game - 3 goals and lots of touches. Is this a case of North getting rid of someone then have him start playing better elsewhere? How did he go / is he going?

 

[rickety]

I missed the game but it looks like Mason Wood had a good game - 3 goals and lots of touches. Is this a case of North getting rid of someone then have him start playing better elsewhere? How did he go / is he going?

Deadset jammy bast@rd. A couple of shanks landed in his arms, perfectly scripted.

 

[Le Grille]

Well, it's both.

Noble's game plan screams of Clarkson's stuff which requires high level footy intelligence and precision disposal.

It doesn't come close to maximizing what we have right now.

I think you are right there, in terms of the game plan not maximising what we have but perhaps the team as you see it now won’t be the ones executing it in the medium to long term. Another poster raised a good point, do you install the plan now knowing the squad build isn’t ready but benefit the few long term players that will stay, and shape recruitment based on that plan or set the game plan then change as the personnel changes.

I think there are three current things that are making the game plan look poor. 1. Cattle, simply don’t have much, even what we have is decimated by injuries. 2. Poor poor disposal, particularly looking at players like Jy who has the ability to be cleaner (we’ve seen it) but is not executing simple foot passes is a worry. 3. Movement off the ball, on the face of it there doesn’t appear to be much and I’m not convinced the game plan is to stay stagnant.


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[hilly]

I missed the game but it looks like Mason Wood had a good game - 3 goals and lots of touches. Is this a case of North getting rid of someone then have him start playing better elsewhere? How did he go / is he going?

Anyone who watched the game would appreciate it was all arse.

 

[Lomas]

Anyone who watched the game would appreciate it was all arse.

And a classic case of the Korridge

 

[Samsquanch]

Anyone who watched the game would appreciate it was all arse.

Yep. 18 acidental possessions and three arsey goals.

 

[hilly]

Yep. 18 acidental possessions and three arsey goals.

Thought his first mark rivaled Riewoldt's today.

 

[SunnyBoner]

If you missed the game is it worth just watching the last quarter? Asking for a friend.

 

[Samsquanch]

Thought his first mark rivaled Riewoldt's today.

I saw it. I wonder if any of the North forwards would have even been in the spot if the boot were on the other foot?

I'm not grieving that we let him go - I also watched his last few games at North and it was clear, he had no right to be in the club colours. But he isn't useless.

 

[muttley45]

If Brad Hill is on $900,00k/year as often mentioned, yesterday's 6 posessions worth somewhere north of $6500 each, not a bad days work.

 

[rickety]

If Brad Hill is on $900,00k/year as often mentioned, yesterday's 6 posessions worth somewhere north of $6500 each, not a bad days work.

I can imagine Andrew Jarman telling his opponent how much he was earning per kick during a game, a deadset funny ******. "Mate, while you've been trying to get the ball, I've just earnt 25k and a new Jag. Why are you puffing?" hahahaha

 

[hilly]

But he isn't useless.

I think the stats sheet flattered his game. Yet to see anything to make me regret us delisting him.

 

[shinboner magic]

He's been serviceable; the kind of bloke you need in that #24-30 range (and you need that cohort, just as much as you need #1-10); problem at the moment is that we have so many of them playing in the ones. LMAC for Menadue, Polec for Young and both the ones and the VFL side take on a different complexion

Don’t know why they don’t swap menadue to the wing and young to halfback - it’s their preferred positions

 

[danj]

Most of what you said I agree with, but the last part was always eventually going to be a given. We need to replenish with top end talent. The "gem in the rough" approach should have ended with Stibbard. We got away with it for a while because we still had champions playing. Now we don't and it's like running out of a good bottle of Merlot, it has to be replaced.

Merlot? Seriously? My friend you need to watch the movie Sideways, and perhaps start expanding the pallet, a McClaren Vale Shiraz single block vintage would be a good place to start. To put it another way a Merlot is your Mason Wood (sometimes accidentally good) to your Robbie Tarrant, full bodied consistently good Shiraz

 

[Firebat]

Playing Menadue instead of Atu, Campbell instead of Xerri, leaving out Phillips again - its starting to resemble the Scott years - we are trying to minimise the losses rather than invest in/trust the kids to develop.

Your final sentence kinda contradicts your first point IMHO. This is Noble's first year coaching - arguably one of the most challenging jobs in the AFL, and in a COVID budget cut environment.

It's possible that he identified a mistake he's made when playing Philips he was limited in his senior game time in the midfield. I'm guessing here, but Nobes likely thinks it's best for Will's development to play full midfield time in the VFL. I don't think there is anything wrong with that..?

Playing Menadue instead of Atu is meh. He's probably at the stage where he needs to give guys an extended period playing together to see if there's 'something there'. I feel Atu will be back in the team before long and enjoy good 5 to 6 game stint.

Campbell over Xerri, I actually get it. Campbell is a senior guy who probably provides alot of intangibles on the field that aren't quantified in stats. Xerri will be in soon, I'd imagine, but surely it's excellent developmental wise to play as 1 ruck in the VFL...? I doubt it's going to hinder him, long term, particularly seeing as how we deliver the ball forward... He'd barely get his nose in.

 

[Gasometer]

I missed the game but it looks like Mason Wood had a good game - 3 goals and lots of touches. Is this a case of North getting rid of someone then have him start playing better elsewhere? How did he go / is he going?

Interesting name

 

[murray wrensted]

Your final sentence kinda contradicts your first point IMHO. This is Noble's first year coaching - arguably one of the most challenging jobs in the AFL, and in a COVID budget cut environment.

It's possible that he identified a mistake he's made when playing Philips he was limited in his senior game time in the midfield. I'm guessing here, but Nobes likely thinks it's best for Will's development to play full midfield time in the VFL. I don't think there is anything wrong with that..?

Playing Menadue instead of Atu is meh. He's probably at the stage where he needs to give guys an extended period playing together to see if there's 'something there'. I feel Atu will be back in the team before long and enjoy good 5 to 6 game stint.

Campbell over Xerri, I actually get it. Campbell is a senior guy who probably provides alot of intangibles on the field that aren't quantified in stats. Xerri will be in soon, I'd imagine, but surely it's excellent developmental wise to play as 1 ruck in the VFL...? I doubt it's going to hinder him, long term, particularly seeing as how we deliver the ball forward... He'd barely get his nose in.

some sense,

 

[Hojuman]

Interesting name

Beats " l'm Bake Snaker "

 

[The Anvil]

Marley was just one example. Pittard or McMillan would be better than Menadue.
I know Menadue is just a back up, but why is he on our list at all???

From memory Menadue was added due to the intent by list management to add pace to the team.


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[Masked Avenger]

From memory Menadue was added due to the intent by list management to add pace to the team.


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For me, Young's a better option down back and I'd be playing him on a wing. We need pace there with Dumont occupying one of those two positions.

I'd also play Atu down back at the expense of Atley.

 

[Snake_Baker]

For me, Young's a better option down back and I'd be playing him on a wing. We need pace there with Dumont occupying one of those two positions.

I'd also play Atu down back at the expense of Atley.

This would have a negative impact.

 

[Masked Avenger]

This would have a negative impact.

Not sure. But what I'm sure of is that it's a pointless exercize putting continual gametime into players who have proven they're not making a difference at the level (Atley) or playing guys who are not thriving in unfamiliar positions (Mahoney, Young and Menadue).

 

[Snake_Baker]

Not sure. But what I'm sure of is that it's a pointless exercize putting continual gametime into players who have proven they're not making a difference at the level (Atley) or playing guys who are not thriving in unfamiliar positions (Mahoney, Young and Menadue).

If you think that plucking out Atu & Young is going to solve anything then you're missing the elephant in the room.

You are not alone.

Week in, week out, we see these 1-3 team line up changes which are supposed to facilitate something, and 99.999% of the time they facilitate nothing.

WTF would it really matter to put Atu in the backline & Young on a wing? The answer is, nothing.

 

[Gasometer]

Beats " l'm Bake Snaker "

Potential for an Eminem song

 

[gokangas]

Potential for an Eminem song

I prefer Boney M's Snake Baker.