Shame for rovers to squander a great win with the unhealthy smell lingering over the club.
Your lot keep bringing up the stbedes issues.We have no problems with Stbedes because they always meet you face to face!!
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Shame for rovers to squander a great win with the unhealthy smell lingering over the club.
Your lot keep bringing up the stbedes issues.We have no problems with Stbedes because they always meet you face to face!!
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We got smashed yesterday. Old Ivanhoe had it over us all day. We didnt take many positives out of the match.
As for this incident everyone is talking about? I doubt some bloke from Rovers would king hit a bloke for no reason.
What is with the people out Essendon way. Both St Bernards and Old Essendon, you just seem to whinge and complain a lot.
Perhaps it's a case of, you can give it but cant take it???
As for this incident everyone is talking about? I doubt some bloke from Rovers would king hit a bloke for no reason.
What is with the people out Essendon way. Both St Bernards and Old Essendon, you just seem to whinge and complain a lot.
Perhaps it's a case of, you can give it but cant take it???
Let me firstly say the reason i dont and wont post on this thread anymore is because of the likes of yourself ,Hawks 09 and Carlton Draught and after this post you reptiles will probably come for me but here goes .
1.I am a long time VAFA supporter and caught the last quarter and a half at OEG after work and stood between the goals and Hamptons coaching bench at the school end . I saw the young kid [and i mean young] and let me make this very clear number 24 bumping and pushing each other whilst the ball was up the other end of the ground they stopped the boy turned his back and moved toward the play and was king hit by a huge right hand to the right side of the temple .The young lad then started convulsing on the ground .I along with many others will be supplying evidence to Keith Goullet at OEG who i know as an ex president at St Bernards .
2.I suppose what disgusted me more was that Robbins walked 30 metres toward the interchange bench after taking and let me make this very clear number 24 off the ground and physically hugged and congratulated him with huge applause from the football group , supporters and reserve players .
3. No young player deserves what happened to him and you cannot justify it by saying oeg are not clean skins or it was done in retaliation which definately was not the case .
4.If Hampton are a strong club number 24 needs to be removed , Robbins needs to start showing some strong leadership or this is going to keep happening .
5.Lets not dismiss this issue as 'its a part of footy ' the young boy could have died .
Local Footy
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Firstly i agree behind the ball incidents are no good, but let's get a couple of things straight; the rovers player DID get punched first and has a cut lip to prove it, and then he retaliated and clearly got him a little too well & i really hope the OEG player is alright because we dont want anyone hurt and taken to hospital, that's not what our game is about. To say it could be taken further well that is ridiculous as it would been seen as self defense. To Cardio Carl, you are a moron, the St Bernards boys didn't have video evidence because it was never produced at the vafa because there was none, i was involved in the process - get your facts straight.
Kid Boga, i agree that it shouldn't happen and the incident tarnished a great game, however i thought it was a little ordinary that your captain number 1 ushered his players away from our guys when they were trying to shake hands, this was an incident between two players not the other 21, unfortunately his leadership obviously proved very costly as you could have sealed the game with the goal & his transgression reversed the goal opportunity and changed the game!!
Let's hope both teams play well for the rest of the year and play finals.
Kid Boga, i agree that it shouldn't happen and the incident tarnished a great game, however i thought it was a little ordinary that your captain number 1 ushered his players away from our guys when they were trying to shake hands, this was an incident between two players not the other 21, unfortunately his leadership obviously proved very costly as you could have sealed the game with the goal & his transgression reversed the goal opportunity and changed the game!!
Let's hope both teams play well for the rest of the year and play finals.
I feel i must respond to your post local.How did the oeg player provoke the hampton rovers player when his back was turned.No this was violence at its worst.The rovers player did not get punched his face always looked like that.I believe the oeg players should be congratualated on the behaviour following the incident.
Sounds like it tarnished Hampton Rovers, not the game.
And Local Footy, a claim of self defence against a civil charge of assault is a legitimate one given that the retaliation was Justifiable and whether it was Reasonable Force or Excessive Force that was used.
I wasn't there but based on the hearsay in here, I'd have thought your call of a cut lip vs a guy who spent the night at the Alfred Hospital might be a battling one.
MurphysLaw
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you blokes just dont get it... you just cant kinghit someone... you cannot justify it... it is pretty simple....get it through your heads.
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Further to above. Would hope that the tribunal is the appropriate body to sort this out and not the courts but the above comment by LF that self-defence is available is wrong. The defence of self-defence relies on proportion, imminent threat and other factors. Even accepting that the alleged offender in this case had copped a smack TFW is right – a cut lip versus being knocked unconscious is not proportionate. Would hope it doesn’t go that way but an eye for an eye is not a valid defence in a criminal jurisdiction.
MurphysLaw
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idiotic comment
bouncing back
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hello 'sausage' - no hear from you lately.
don't feel too bad we all make a [SIZE=+2]blue[/SIZE] occasionally.
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i wasn't at the game either so can't comment on the incident other than to say any behind the play act outside the laws of the game should be penalised severely.
i don't have any probs with a reasonable discussion about it. but as usual the serial pest ' cardio snarl' returns to the forum causing dissension by smearing an entire club. the forum was operating in good natured harmony for months during the absence of the serial pest so let's all ignore him in the hope he'll improve the forum by disappearing up his own clacker and we'll never hear from him again.
don't get sucked into to a discussion with the nuff-nuff, l.c and cubzy'. as the saying goes 'never wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty and the pig enjoys it.'
I understand your point that we hope the the tribunal hand out a punishment (if it sees fit) but what if the victim can't earn an income or has to eat into sick/annual leave to get paid? What about out of pocket medical expenses?
I hope that, should he be financially impacted, that he can get this covered. And if the courts are the avenue then so bit it.
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I think you will see that I have actually agreed that there is no substance to a self defence argument here. We hate these incidents occurring and my point was simply that if every technical assault goes to court then local footy is finished. Usually tribunals are the appropriate body to deal with these matters but I agree that this appears to be a serious breach and the points you raise are very valid.
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I enjoy reading the VAFA forum but I agree the Cardio Carl bloke is a bitter abusive ignorant man who lowers the tone of the forum. If he is ignored he might get the message.
solidbuild
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so you're saying that the VAFA will do the right thing and take one persons would vs another and guess..b/c there is no video?
If something happened, why werent the umps involved? or is it mob rule at Old Ess?
I say just let it go and move on...talk about the quality footy across the round!
Mate we will move on when justice has been done.How do you expect us to recruit young men when an incident happens like this.Umpires normally do not look and can not look 100- 150 metres behind play.I have faith in the vafa, i hope they get it right as this is the most serious incident i have seen in the ams.
VAFA Investigations into these types of incidents are quite common. All a club need do is put in notification to HQ of the need for an investigation and gather together witnesses who have observed an incident not reported by umpires on the particular day.
Once the clubs have got their respective positions sorted on the issue, presuming the VAFA have determined the matter warrants a investigation, they then usually sit down on a Wednesday night (usually 11 days after the incident) and the matter is determined.
If it does involve a king hit behind the play, and the evidence is weighed up in favour of that having occurred, then the player involved will receive a suspension.
Many hurdles to be overcome first though.
In summary, the absence of video evidence or an umpires' report is not a bar to sanctions being taken if warranted.
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Gees Coughlan will be a good player when he finds his feet and gets up to the speed of B grade.
Both skevvies and Bernies will be up there. That on-ball brigade is very very good for skevs. A few blokes for Bernies needed the run so it was a good hitout for all.
Both skevvies and Bernies will be up there. That on-ball brigade is very very good for skevs. A few blokes for Bernies needed the run so it was a good hitout for all.
The Spanner
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Gees Coughlan will be a good player when he finds his feet and gets up to the speed of B grade.
Both skevvies and Bernies will be up there. That on-ball brigade is very very good for skevs. A few blokes for Bernies needed the run so it was a good hitout for all.
Coughlan BOG skevvies on ball brigade the envy of the comp. the Bernies need to control their Aggression cost them the game. 2 send off's not good eneogh in a tight game.
Well done to Oakleigh seems they will be hard to beat at Scammel.
Scribe has got it right. There's a recent precedent when Collegians asked for an investigation following a behind the play incident involving an Old Brighton player. The investigation led to the OBG player going before the VAFA Tribunal and copping four weeks. No umpires saw the incident. The fact the Collegians player incurred an injury as a result of the incident was an important factor.
I too am tired of C.Cs badmouthing.
I too am tired of C.Cs badmouthing.
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hello 'sausage' - no hear from you lately.
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mmm. I wonder how many tipped Oakleigh? No "blue" there bouncing!!
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Agree re my old mate Carl, used to be an inciteful poster, now it seems spiteful...lift mate and don't lower yourself.
We all need to be careful what we say re the weekends incident at OEG, this should not be a kangaroo court.
Nice pic of the Markologist in the HS today, PLAY ON!!!
We all need to be careful what we say re the weekends incident at OEG, this should not be a kangaroo court.
Nice pic of the Markologist in the HS today, PLAY ON!!!
Privateye
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Any word on how the lad is from OEG?
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