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How’s Geelongs salary cap situation ? Or is Nigel Austin taking care of that ?
Traded Bailey Smith: 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB
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Well if he hasn't requested a direct trade then fair enough.
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No, I can appreciate that position. And I also think that some of proposed offers here for Smith probably are pretty close to the mark. I'm just not sure it's a great idea for Geelong.
Assuming we're not big players in the 2024 and 2025 drafts and assuming retirements/delistings of Duncan, Blicavs, Guthrie, Stanley, Bews, Rohan and Parfitt, our round 1 2026 side (with potentially nothing of note in the wings from this year's draft and next) would be something like:
B: Stewart (33), J.Henry (28), O'Connor (29)
HB: Humphries (23), de Koning (25), Z.Guthrie (28)
C:: Dempsey (23), Bruhn (24), Bowes (28)
HF: Dangerfield (36), Cameron (33), Close (28)
F: Stengle (27), Neale (24), O.Henry (24)
R: Conway (23), Holmes (24), Smith (25)
I/C-sub: Mannagh (29), Atkins (30), Clark (22), O'Sullivan (21), Mullin (26)
A few red flags with Stewart, Cameron and Dangerfield on their last legs, practically no-one else outside the players mentioned who currently have any AFL experience (Knevitt and Clohesy the only ones who come to mind) and it's a bit problematic to say "Well 2026 is a long way away, I'm sure your depth will look a lot better then" because - once again - people are advocating for us to trade out of the first half of the next two drafts. So I don't really see where it will come from.
EDIT: Change to the 2026 team, O'Connor to BP, Mullin to bench, Knevitt out.
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The ironic thing is Geelong are well known for getting deals done unlike many other clubs, they will do what they can to get their guy.
Player managers like dealing with the Cats as they know there’s a strong likelihood their player whether moving in or moving out will get to where they need to be.
Was mentioned in Making Their Mark doco when talking about the Bowes deal.
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With Hawkins, Tuohy, Stanley and Parfitt departing, Rohan and Bews possibly joining them and maybe even someone like Duncan calling time? It's probably ok.
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When the only top 80 paid player from your team is Jezza and the next highest is Stewart at 81, that’s good cap management? They don’t overpay anyone (no one on deals longer than 5 years) and the only players who get that many years are superstars. Its been reported that Smith is only getting 4 years not 5 or 6 that was previously floated on much more manageable money than what initial reports made out.
They’ve had the cap structure in place since the Bartel, Chapman, Ling, Mooney days where players decided to keep a dynasty team together by taking less so they could keep the group on the same page as long as possible. If someone comes over the top and offers ridiculous money, Cats will let them go eg. Ablett and Suns in 2011 offseason.
Fair to say we manage it 1000% better than a Collingwood for example. No wastage on Grundy/Treloar types. Probably have 2 premiership defenders on a similar amount to one DMoore. Our veterans are all on unders and our kids don't get given ridiculous long term deals. Just re-signed Holmes and Stengle when highest bidders may have paid the best part of $1m between them a year to pry them away. That pays for Smith. We walk away from deals if they don’t stack up re Hopper(thank f#*k) Not rocket science, just a well run club.
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I have no doubt Geelong is a well run club.
It just gets a little help I feel (quietly)
from one of the countries richest men. 
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Out of all the 3rd party deals, the cotton on one is nearly the most legit in regards to the company getting value for what they're paying
They've been plastering him on billboards for years, having him involved in designing clothing lines etc. I don't see an issue with it if it stays at the same rate. It's not Judd doing 3 speeches about cardboard
They've been plastering him on billboards for years, having him involved in designing clothing lines etc. I don't see an issue with it if it stays at the same rate. It's not Judd doing 3 speeches about cardboard
Just fine. Only one player (Cameron) in the top 80 paid players in the AFL.
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You do realise that list is make believe guess work?
Right now they are. But with Macrae also seemingly wanting out, on a big contract apparently, and the Saints and Cats interested, I could see Geelong relieving the Bulldogs of Macrae's big contract in return for something a little less on the Smith deal. They'll need cap space for Darcy, Ugle-Hagan, any targets they might be considering and a few others, I'm sure.
Similar to Geelong helping Gold Coast.
Funny enough, they also mentioned Dogs aren’t worried about Macrae’s contract and will only accept a pick that benefits the club.
I know you're just passing the info along, so not a shot at you, but this rumour-mill and trash-talk of the highest order.
We have a 9-day trade period that doesn't start until the 9th of October (i.e. almost a month away), and media are already screaming "oh noes, he may go to the PSD!!!!!!1111" (and probably rubbing their hands with glee as to how they can dramatise the s**t out of this).
Sure, it's great theatre and gives everyone here the chance to blow this thread to page 500 before a deal is struck, but I'd be very surprised if the two clubs aren't privately discussing this firmly but respectfully.
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I'm sure that's what the dogs would be telling people
Fair. I can’t see us getting more than a second round pick for Macrae. He won’t be worth nearly as much as Baz.
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I think the picks cost will depend on how much contract St Kilda pays. I'd imagine the deal gets done with less fuss than others as he's effectively an in contract fringe player.
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There might be some other players that they have their eye on for future years that will need those picks
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I actually have no idea how to value Macrae. His contract is ok for a big ball winning midfielder, it's fine if he's the old Macrae. But you're playing a big, slowish, accumulator away from the guts so it looks to me like he is actively hurting you. But he's not zero value to other clubs so you should get something. I have no idea on that one truthfully.
If played in the guts, he’s still in the top echelon of midfielders. Could easily rack up over 30 damaging disposals. His problem is that he’s not super effective at any other role, too slow for the wing etc.
He’d do well at Saints or North, and they probably have plenty of room to fit his contract. Dogs would ask for a late first but would have to happy with anything from 20-40 considering that’s 700k we can put towards the Butters offer.
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