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Confirmed Bailey Smith: 4-way trade: B. Smith (WB) & pick 45 to Geel / pick 38 to Carl / Macrae (WB) to StK / pick 17 & Kennedy (Carl) to WB
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17 and 2nd for Smith is about right for Smith.
Oliver the valuation of the asset needs to look at the full balance sheet as the sum of liabilities and equity. Don't think the trade happens because the liabilities aren't estimated transparently and so no one can accurately value the asset.
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If clubs knew how many strikes players had it would make things more transparent.
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Carlton don't have the cap room for Smith and even if they did they have bigger priorities list wise.
No one in the top 6 or 7 would pick Smith, gws won't touch it given their retention issues (which rules 15 or 16 out) neither will any interstate teams. Melbourne won't given their issues so it's probably very likely he gets to 17 if he frontloads the contract and refuses to talk to other clubs.
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They are offloading a number of players and the cap goes up a lot over thee next couple of years.
You'd make space for Houston and you'd make space for Smith.
Pretty much this. AFL are absolutely thirsty for attention and are dragging something that could be done in a max of two or three days out over three or four weeks.
After Wednesday night there's invariably going to be the many "how did your club fare during trade period?" puff pieces later this week, followed by next week's "which delisted free agents could improve your club?"
Then we'll get a month of draft prospects having smoke blown up them through Twomey and others doing their weekly phantom drafts while dribs and drabs of the fixture start getting 'leaked' out.
Then the fixture gets released in December with the replete "how difficult is your club's fixture?" articles to follow it.
Then the AFL takes a break over Christmas and NYE and cricket (which not long ago was the major summer sport for several months) gets their couple of weeks in the spotlight.
Then the AFL media cycle starts up again with the gushing "which young guns from your club are tearing up the track?" stuff in January and then a couple of weeks later the pre-season games are about to start again.
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I would be surprised of clubs weren't able to find out. More important than that is that clubs can't predict how a player goes in the future because past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. Or probably more accurately, the selling club may be able to paint a rosier picture to convince a club it's less significant than it is and it's hard to discern the truth between two sides of the story.
I mostly think that the MFC administration would rightly expect a round of sackings if they salary dumped Oliver. Dew and Buckley both sacked the following winter after losing Bowes and Grundy/Treloar. I expect Pert is likely holding on by the skin of his teeth as it is.
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Dogs to redraft smith
threenewpadlocks
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By virtue of having to nominate for the draft, he's in effect delisting himself from the Dogs, if no contract can be agreed upon.
The AFL can then place rules upon players seeking to enter the draft, that are reasonable, as they do to the 17 and 18 year olds:
The literal second question on the key questions section on their handbook listed above is:
With all the subsequent rules therein.
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So off the mark where do you start? “Hey Bailey come to one of the biggest clubs in the land just coming off major success where you will be the prime midfielder for the rest of your career playing in front of huge crowds on the MCG for exactly the money you want with tribal fans who will absolutely love you.” Ahhh no thanks I want to play for a lot less down at the dungheap.”
Also how do Geelong not lose out when just losing a prelim in the final minutes and they add pick 17 rather than an established 23 year old high talent mid? Would be a massive own goal.
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Wait which club are you talking about? We were the only Victorian club to make the prelim this year ?So off the mark where do you start? “Hey Bailey come to one of the biggest clubs in the land just coming off major success where you will be the prime midfielder for the rest of your career playing in front of huge crowds on the MCG for exactly the money you want with tribal fans who will absolutely love you.” Ahhh no thanks I want to play for a lot less down at the dungheap.”
Also how do Geelong not lose out when just losing a prelim in the final minutes and they add pick 17 rather than an established 23 year old high talent mid? Would be a massive own goal.
Your clearly not talking about HOKS when you say coming off major success right ? Making a semi final isn't the same as a premiership. Although maybe it is for the young HOKS.
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They don't have a r1.
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Players routinely refuse to have medicals with certain clubs or tell them if they draft them they won't stay. And the afl routinely does nothing so why in the world would you think this case would be different?
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Richmond - was a reference to them not taking him in the draft with a billion early picks and the success was their 2* flags. #covidflagsdontcount
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The Covid flag was actually pretty special, the fact that it actually evened everything out by having everyone stuck in the hubs was crazy. If anything, Melbourne's flag doesn't count for ... reasons.
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I think it's pretty obvious whether Smith wants to play for the Geelong "dungheap" or Richmond.
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Mackie told ya, 17 or nothing you nerds.
Massive, massive chance it is already sorted and the wait is to see what Cats have left in terms of picks towards the end of the trade period. Reckon there is a fair bit of angst between both supporter groups (and a few others) for nothing.
Yep, not to mention the afl needs the prime time last few hours deadline.
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although its more fun to believe two of the best list managers are going at it head to head and there will be only one winner!
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Look we all know Geelong will probably end up with the player but do their supporters have to be such pricks about it?
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Nothing is happening and the stalemate ensues, it looks like the Dogs are holding firm and Smith will go to the draft where Geelong will get him for nothing? !0% of something or all of nothing? The Dogs choice.
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Yes. It’s in their nature. Like losing prelims over and over and over again.
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Even if all Dogs get is pick 20 - nothing can compare to the catastrophe of an offer Eagles have just accepted for pick 3.
Helps the dogs save face and accept the 17 on offer from the Cats.
Sam Power a relieved man. All attention on the cokers...
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