Confirmed Baker (Rich), Owies (Carl), #12 & #73 to WCE, #14 to Rich, #3, #63 & #68 to Carlton

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Baker is a trier. A glue guy. A 27 year old (as of next season) mediocre but tough midget on the worst team in the league.

He's never won an award of any kind

Not mediocre but a versatile player who can play forward, back and midfield and has some of the cleanest hands in the comp. He was also a tough midget in the best team in the league.

Won the award for most courageous player in the league in 2022, voted on by his peers. Pretty prestigious award IMO.
 
Mate, Owies is a C tier small forward who will be 28 next year.

I'm not going to pander to this kind of delusional optimism. What need did he so desperately fill that it was worth breaking up pick 3, likewise Baker, who is at least closer to semi serviceable?

This isn't hate, they are simply lower end performers on not great teams. Moving to an even more hopeless squad (debatable between WC and Richmond). Putting 3 on the open market might actually have netted something of value.
Owies kicked more goals than any West Coast player Waterman in 2024. He’s not that bad.
 

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Why did West Coast not take Hawthorn’s F1 and F2 for Barrass before doing this deal. Then on trade Haw F1 to Rich for Baker. That way they get to keep pick 3. Am I missing something here or is this too simplistic.
Worse, they knocked back 14 + F2 because you wanted an F3 back.
They’re here because they refused to budge on F3.
 
Worse, they knocked back 14 + F2 because you wanted an F3 back.
They’re here because they refused to budge on F3.
It is likely tomorrow WC will end up with
  • Pick 12
  • Hawthorn F1
  • Hawthorn F2

When if they traded Barrass to Hawthorn last week, they'd have:

  • Pick 3
  • Hawthorn F2

No Hawthorn F1 as that's gone for Baker

So instead of pick 3, they have pick 12 and who knows what Hawthorn's F1 ends up at - my guess is around 10, so thats pick 10 and 12 for pick 3, which is a poor deal, though not horrendous, it's still poor
 
If they can land Bo Allen at 12 (14), I think they won't mind. His the best WA prospect and a safe one.
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Confirmed Baker (Rich), Owies (Carl), #12 & #73 to WCE, #14 to Rich, #3, #63 & #68 to Carlton

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