Winter Beijing 2022 4th Feb to 22nd preview and general discussion thread

[dusty1234!]

Quite rightly so.
Makes up for the absolute farce last time around

 

[dusty1234!]

Isn’t it telling that this time not 1, not even 1 Chinese player made it to the final?

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Judge is back at it again trying to get people disqualified to get the Chinese through to the final.

What the Chinese have been allowed to get away with is criminal.

Everything they touch is corrupt. It's disgusting.

 

[myblueroan]

What the Chinese have been allowed to get away with is criminal.

Everything they touch is corrupt. It's disgusting.

Free Tibet!! (sorry mods, that just slipped out) won't happen again.

 

[Satan]

bit of controversy in team figure ice skating medal ceremony , been delayed, allegedly doping involved by one of the medalists , wont name names because dont want chief to be sued

 

[hawkman]

bit of controversy in team figure ice skating medal ceremony , been delayed, allegedly doping involved by one of the medalists , wont name names because dont want chief to be sued

It is the young Russian girl

Olympic storm explodes as teen is named in fresh Russian doping controversy

Olympic storm explodes as teen is named in fresh Russian doping controversy

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Satan]

It is the young Russian girl

Olympic storm explodes as teen is named in fresh Russian doping controversy

Olympic storm explodes as teen is named in fresh Russian doping controversy

www.foxsports.com.au

having angina at 15 is a worry

 

[JackNah_8]

having angina at 15 is a worry

Is this a similar drug used by Sharapova?

 

[hawkman]

having "angina" at 15 is a worry

EFA

 

[Drummond]

Can’t be true. I’m going to back her in.

 

[drd23]

Is this a similar drug used by Sharapova?

Same drug that got Sun Yang banned in 2014

 

[Satan]

Same drug that got Sun Yang banned in 2014

So all 3 had “angina” glad im not super fit like them

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Go Chloe

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Is this a similar drug used by Sharapova?

From the Foxtel story
Russian newspapers RBC and Kommersant said Valieva had tested positive to Trimetazidine, a drug used to treat angina — a chest pain caused by lack of blood flow to the heart.

Sharapova - 2016 story from The Guardian

What is meldonium and why did Maria Sharapova take it?

Meldonium is also known as mildronate, it increases exercise capacity in athletes and the Olympic figure skater Ekaterina Bobrova admitted to testing positive to the drug on Monday

www.theguardian.com

Meldonium is also known as mildronate, it increases exercise capacity in athletes and Sharapova claimed she had been taking the drug for 10 years because of a magnesium deficiency and family history of diabetes.

Meldonium is used to treat ischaemia: a lack of blood flow to parts of the body, particularly in cases of angina or heart failure.

It is manufactured in Latvia and only distributed in Baltic countries and Russia. It is not approved by the Food and Drug Administration for use in the United States and is not authorised in the rest of Europe.

It increases blood flow, which improves exercise capacity in athletes.

Wada found “evidence of its use by athletes with the intention of enhancing performance” by virtue of carrying more oxygen to muscle tissue.

The decision to add meldonium to the banned list was approved on 16 September 2015, and it came into effect on 1 January 2016. Wada had spent the previous year monitoring the drug before adding it to the banned list.

The drug was name-checked in the latest investigative documentary on Russian doping reforms by the German Hajo Seppelt on Sunday. The documentary referred to a 2015 study in which 17% of Russian athletes (724 of 4,316) tested were found to have meldonium in their system. A global study found 2.2% of athletes had it in their system.

L’Equipe reported that the scientific advisor to the French Agency Against Doping (AFLD), Professor Xavier Bigard, said in interviews with athletes at last year’s European Games in Baku that a wide proportion of athletes admitted taking meldonium.

It is classed as an S4 substance under the Wada code, which addresses hormone and metabolic modulators.
The standard ban under the World Anti-Doping Code is four years.

A memo was sent out to athletes by Russia’s anti-doping agency last September informing them of the decision to ban its use.

Sharapova claimed she had been taking the drug for 10 years because of a magnesium deficiency and family history of diabetes.

 

[JackNah_8]

From the Foxtel story
Russian newspapers RBC and Kommersant said Valieva had tested positive to Trimetazidine, a drug used to treat angina — a chest pain caused by lack of blood flow to the heart.

Sharapova - 2016 story from The Guardian

What is meldonium and why did Maria Sharapova take it?

Meldonium is also known as mildronate, it increases exercise capacity in athletes and the Olympic figure skater Ekaterina Bobrova admitted to testing positive to the drug on Monday

www.theguardian.com

Meldonium is also known as mildronate, it increases exercise capacity in athletes and Sharapova claimed she had been taking the drug for 10 years because of a magnesium deficiency and family history of diabetes.

Meldonium is used to treat ischaemia: a lack of blood flow to parts of the body, particularly in cases of angina or heart failure.

It is manufactured in Latvia and only distributed in Baltic countries and Russia. It is not approved by the Food and Drug Administration for use in the United States and is not authorised in the rest of Europe.

It increases blood flow, which improves exercise capacity in athletes.

Wada found “evidence of its use by athletes with the intention of enhancing performance” by virtue of carrying more oxygen to muscle tissue.

The decision to add meldonium to the banned list was approved on 16 September 2015, and it came into effect on 1 January 2016. Wada had spent the previous year monitoring the drug before adding it to the banned list.

The drug was name-checked in the latest investigative documentary on Russian doping reforms by the German Hajo Seppelt on Sunday. The documentary referred to a 2015 study in which 17% of Russian athletes (724 of 4,316) tested were found to have meldonium in their system. A global study found 2.2% of athletes had it in their system.

L’Equipe reported that the scientific advisor to the French Agency Against Doping (AFLD), Professor Xavier Bigard, said in interviews with athletes at last year’s European Games in Baku that a wide proportion of athletes admitted taking meldonium.

It is classed as an S4 substance under the Wada code, which addresses hormone and metabolic modulators.
The standard ban under the World Anti-Doping Code is four years.

A memo was sent out to athletes by Russia’s anti-doping agency last September informing them of the decision to ban its use.

Sharapova claimed she had been taking the drug for 10 years because of a magnesium deficiency and family history of diabetes.

Thanks for the links.

Tricky situation because she's only 15 yr old and considered "protected person "

 

[myblueroan]

Can’t be true. I’m going to back her in.

Unfortunately it does support and improve blood flow. However reports say a miniscule amount was found som time ago. It does not affect her artistry and talent...but perhaps endurance. I'm worried.
Selfishly I want to see her skate the individual event. She has been the number 1 delight for me of these games.
Just so disappointed.

 

[CURVE]

So, for those who no nothing about the halfpipe was that a good run from Chloe?

Because I have no idea listening to the commentary, these goons have less personality than a zombie and get about as excited as one. Terrible.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Thanks for the links.

Tricky situation because she's only 15 yr old and considered "protected person "

At the Sydney Olympics a young 16 year old Romanian gymnast Andreea Raducan won the all round gold medal. Her Romanian teammates won silver and bronze.

She tested positive to pseudoephedrine and was stripped of her gold medal, as the team doctor gave her some Nurofen tablets for a fever and a cough she had, a few hours before the competition. The Romanians argued as a minor and that she was following medical advice, Raducan shouldn't be stripped of her gold medal. The IOC said otherwise.

Here is a cut and paste of what happened on appeal to CAS from her wiki page. As a result of this case the treatment of liability for minors was changed in respect of post competition bans, but not losing medals. The doctor got a long ban from sports, but because he prescribed an over the counter medicine he didn't receive any professional penalty.

Andreea Răducan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Aftermath​

Răducan's case was brought before the Court of Arbitration for Sport in late September 2000. While the arbitration panel did concede that Răducan had not gained any advantage by taking the pseudoephedrine, and that she was an underage athlete who had followed her team physician's instructions, they also upheld the IOC's decision. The basis for their decision was the belief that the Anti-Doping Code of the Olympics had to be enforced "without compromise", regardless of the intentions or age of the athlete.[9][10][17]

Răducan was exonerated of any personal wrongdoing by the Romanian Olympic Committee, and therefore was not subjected to the sporting ban usually imposed on athletes involved in doping cases. However, Ion Ţiriac, the president of the Romanian Olympic Committee (ROC), resigned over the scandal.[18] The Executive Committee of the International Gymnastics Federation (FIG) also unanimously decided not to impose any suspension or punishment on Răducan, taking the stance that losing her medal "was punishment enough for an athlete who was innocent in this situation".[7][19]

The FIG, IOC and ROC all agreed with the punishment and suspension of Dr. Oana, viewing him as the guilty party for administering the banned substance to Răducan and her teammate. Oana was permitted to keep his medical license and was cleared of malpractice by the Deva Physicians' Association, who stated that he had not committed any offense "from a medical perspective".[18]

Despite the controversy, Răducan was still seen as a positive and even sympathetic figure. She received a significant amount of support in Romania,[14] and members of the gymnastics community, including Nadia Comăneci, publicly expressed their support.[9] On returning to Romania with her teammates, she was personally greeted and presented with flowers by Romanian President Emil Constantinescu.[14] Răducan was given a replacement medal in pure gold by a Romanian jeweler; she also received several endorsements and sponsorships. At one point, a Răducan doll was even rumored to be in the works.[11] In addition, the prize money she would have been awarded from the Romanian Olympic Committee for her all-around gold was replaced, and doubled, by a group of Romanian businessmen.[20] She, along with Amanar, was awarded a diplomatic passport by the Romanian government for being a "good ambassador for Romania".

 

[Satan]

At the Sydney Olympics a young 16 year old Romanian gymnast Andreea Raducan won the all round gold medal. Her Romanian teammates won silver and bronze.

She tested positive to pseudoephedrine and was stripped of her gold medal, as the team doctor gave her some Nurofen tablets for a fever and a cough she had, a few hours before the competition. The Romanians argued as a minor and that she was following medical advice, Raducan shouldn't be stripped of her gold medal. The IOC said otherwise.

Here is a cut and paste of what happened on appeal to CAS from her wiki page. As a result of this case the treatment of liability for minors was changed in respect of post competition bans, but not losing medals. The doctor got a long ban from sports, but because he prescribed an over the counter medicine he didn't receive any professional penalty.

Andreea Răducan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Aftermath​

Răducan's case was brought before the Court of Arbitration for Sport in late September 2000. While the arbitration panel did concede that Răducan had not gained any advantage by taking the pseudoephedrine, and that she was an underage athlete who had followed her team physician's instructions, they also upheld the IOC's decision. The basis for their decision was the belief that the Anti-Doping Code of the Olympics had to be enforced "without compromise", regardless of the intentions or age of the athlete.[9][10][17]

Răducan was exonerated of any personal wrongdoing by the Romanian Olympic Committee, and therefore was not subjected to the sporting ban usually imposed on athletes involved in doping cases. However, Ion Ţiriac, the president of the Romanian Olympic Committee (ROC), resigned over the scandal.[18] The Executive Committee of the International Gymnastics Federation (FIG) also unanimously decided not to impose any suspension or punishment on Răducan, taking the stance that losing her medal "was punishment enough for an athlete who was innocent in this situation".[7][19]

The FIG, IOC and ROC all agreed with the punishment and suspension of Dr. Oana, viewing him as the guilty party for administering the banned substance to Răducan and her teammate. Oana was permitted to keep his medical license and was cleared of malpractice by the Deva Physicians' Association, who stated that he had not committed any offense "from a medical perspective".[18]

Despite the controversy, Răducan was still seen as a positive and even sympathetic figure. She received a significant amount of support in Romania,[14] and members of the gymnastics community, including Nadia Comăneci, publicly expressed their support.[9] On returning to Romania with her teammates, she was personally greeted and presented with flowers by Romanian President Emil Constantinescu.[14] Răducan was given a replacement medal in pure gold by a Romanian jeweler; she also received several endorsements and sponsorships. At one point, a Răducan doll was even rumored to be in the works.[11] In addition, the prize money she would have been awarded from the Romanian Olympic Committee for her all-around gold was replaced, and doubled, by a group of Romanian businessmen.[20] She, along with Amanar, was awarded a diplomatic passport by the Romanian government for being a "good ambassador for Romania".

Ion tirac , a tennis man blast from the past

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

CBC reporter is at the daily IOC / BOCOG presser and he tweeted this a couple of minutes ago so no doubt in about 10-15 minutes all the questions about ROC figure skater Kamila Valieva.

 

[JackNah_8]

Another case


Iranian skier Hossein Saveh Shemshaki has tested positive for steroids – one of the first announced at the Beijing Olympics.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/winter-olympics/winter-olympics-rocked-by-positive-drug-test-as-iranian-skier-returns-steroid-result/news-story/4464214197220df32be11bd2a69cc346

 

[AdelaideGT]

Great free skating routine for the Aussie flag-bearer Kerry.

Probably his last international comp (certainly his final Olympics) and what a way to go out - absolutely nailing his routine and demolishing his personal best/highest ever score.

He will also finish in his highest ever position at the Games - 17th (or better).

 

[Satan]

Another case


Iranian skier Hossein Saveh Shemshaki has tested positive for steroids – one of the first announced at the Beijing Olympics.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/winter-olympics/winter-olympics-rocked-by-positive-drug-test-as-iranian-skier-returns-steroid-result/news-story/4464214197220df32be11bd2a69cc346

Only 1 iranian sportsman

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

We won't see one cheating Chinese sanctioned, will we?

They should just declare this Olympics the farce that it is and erase it from the record books* (the Chinese know a thing or two about how to do that).

*Australian medal winners exempt.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

So, for those who no nothing about the halfpipe was that a good run from Chloe?

Because I have no idea listening to the commentary, these goons have less personality than a zombie and get about as excited as one. Terrible.

Very technical with tricks no one else has. If anything was underscored thought it was a 96-97.