Best 22 for the start of 2017?

[elastic]

Don't know why we're bothering with any of this,

Just select the team based on their haircut.

I've pencilled in Fox based on his moustache.

 

[bungwahl]

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Here's me. I've named an extended bench. Join me over the next 3 weeks as that gets whittled down to 4, with a possible Foxy wildcard entry.

Horse sacked before round 1?

 

[sataris]

Horse sacked before round 1?

Towers to be the head coach

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[Banyo Bloods]

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Here's me. I've named an extended bench. Join me over the next 3 weeks as that gets whittled down to 4, with a possible Foxy wildcard entry.

Horse is unlucky

 

[J_Moore]

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Here's me. I've named an extended bench. Join me over the next 3 weeks as that gets whittled down to 4, with a possible Foxy wildcard entry.

A few people laughed at me for this.

Who's laughing now?

 

[S120]

A few people laughed at me for this.

Who's laughing now?

I for one welcome our new not-very-talented-whilst-playing overlord.

 

[J_Moore]

I for one welcome our new not-very-talented-whilst-playing overlord.

Playfairmentum

 

[Wayne Swan]

I've been worried about our bottom half dozen players the past few years but we've been saved by fringe players stepping up. I'm not sure this year has the same potential to cover lack of depth in our best 22. Here's how I roughly rate the list and you'll see about 19 ish and WITHOUT INJURIES we run out of AFL standard players needed to take us to a flag. If we have 3-4 players injured then we will have 6-8 very marginal AFL standard players in our team.

If you do a similar exercise on GWS, it's scary how far we are behind. So here's my list, no debate needed on where they are on the list, just that we have 19 who are definitely finals standard -
1. Kennedy
2. Buddy
3. Parker
4. Hanneberry
5. Rampe
6. Grundy
7. Tippett
8. Heeney
9. Mills
10. Aliir
11. Smith
12. K Jack
13. McVeigh
14. Reid
15. Rohan
16. Papley
17. Lloyd
18. Naismith
19. Jones
20. Laidler*
21. Hewett*

We then have unproven players, none of who at this stage really make me think they will be permanent fixtures in the future.
Cunningham
Towers
Robinson
Talia
Foote
Marsh
Newman

I know we have high hopes for this years draftees and O'Riordan but history shows that these players rarely play a part in finals. I am worried if injuries hit.

 

[Banyo Bloods]

I've been worried about our bottom half dozen players the past few years but we've been saved by fringe players stepping up. I'm not sure this year has the same potential to cover lack of depth in our best 22. Here's how I roughly rate the list and you'll see about 19 ish and WITHOUT INJURIES we run out of AFL standard players needed to take us to a flag. If we have 3-4 players injured then we will have 6-8 very marginal AFL standard players in our team.

If you do a similar exercise on GWS, it's scary how far we are behind. So here's my list, no debate needed on where they are on the list, just that we have 19 who are definitely finals standard -
1. Kennedy
2. Buddy
3. Parker
4. Hanneberry
5. Rampe
6. Grundy
7. Tippett
8. Heeney
9. Mills
10. Aliir
11. Smith
12. K Jack
13. McVeigh
14. Reid
15. Rohan
16. Papley
17. Lloyd
18. Naismith
19. Jones
20. Laidler*
21. Hewett*

We then have unproven players, none of who at this stage really make me think they will be permanent fixtures in the future.
Cunningham
Towers
Robinson
Talia
Foote
Marsh
Newman

I know we have high hopes for this years draftees and O'Riordan but history shows that these players rarely play a part in finals. I am worried if injuries hit.

Fair points and list

The following would be at least reasonable inclusions for certain outs from what we have seen.

Cunningham (Craps himself a bit but can cover a midfield or small forward role)
Towers (Leg Speed cover for say an injured Rohan real wild card of the bunch due to some howler moments)
Robinson (Midfield cover not like for like but would carry some weight)
Marsh (Proven cover as a defender at least worked well during the finals)

Just need a couple to stand up and step up from the rest of the list.

 

[6yearsold]

I've been worried about our bottom half dozen players the past few years but we've been saved by fringe players stepping up. I'm not sure this year has the same potential to cover lack of depth in our best 22. Here's how I roughly rate the list and you'll see about 19 ish and WITHOUT INJURIES we run out of AFL standard players needed to take us to a flag. If we have 3-4 players injured then we will have 6-8 very marginal AFL standard players in our team.

If you do a similar exercise on GWS, it's scary how far we are behind. So here's my list, no debate needed on where they are on the list, just that we have 19 who are definitely finals standard -
1. Kennedy
2. Buddy
3. Parker
4. Hanneberry
5. Rampe
6. Grundy
7. Tippett
8. Heeney
9. Mills
10. Aliir
11. Smith
12. K Jack
13. McVeigh
14. Reid
15. Rohan
16. Papley
17. Lloyd
18. Naismith
19. Jones
20. Laidler*
21. Hewett*

We then have unproven players, none of who at this stage really make me think they will be permanent fixtures in the future.
Cunningham
Towers
Robinson
Talia
Foote
Marsh
Newman

I know we have high hopes for this years draftees and O'Riordan but history shows that these players rarely play a part in finals. I am worried if injuries hit.

why does hewett have an asterisk next to his name?

 

[bungwahl]

I've been worried about our bottom half dozen players the past few years but we've been saved by fringe players stepping up. I'm not sure this year has the same potential to cover lack of depth in our best 22. Here's how I roughly rate the list and you'll see about 19 ish and WITHOUT INJURIES we run out of AFL standard players needed to take us to a flag. If we have 3-4 players injured then we will have 6-8 very marginal AFL standard players in our team.

If you do a similar exercise on GWS, it's scary how far we are behind. So here's my list, no debate needed on where they are on the list, just that we have 19 who are definitely finals standard -
1. Kennedy
2. Buddy
3. Parker
4. Hanneberry
5. Rampe
6. Grundy
7. Tippett
8. Heeney
9. Mills
10. Aliir
11. Smith
12. K Jack
13. McVeigh
14. Reid
15. Rohan
16. Papley
17. Lloyd
18. Naismith
19. Jones
20. Laidler*
21. Hewett*

We then have unproven players, none of who at this stage really make me think they will be permanent fixtures in the future.
Cunningham
Towers
Robinson
Talia
Foote
Marsh
Newman

I know we have high hopes for this years draftees and O'Riordan but history shows that these players rarely play a part in finals. I am worried if injuries hit.

Another aspect is that before last season we probably wouldn't have classified some of those players as being finals standard - Aliir, Naismith, Papley, Mills (massive potential, but still zero games to his name at this stage of 2016). I'm sure we'll be adding a couple more youngsters to this classification over the course of the season.

 

[BloodySwan]

Another aspect is that before last season we probably wouldn't have classified some of those players as being finals standard - Aliir, Naismith, Papley, Mills (massive potential, but still zero games to his name at this stage of 2016). I'm sure we'll be adding a couple more youngsters to this classification over the course of the season.

To add onto this I reckon Papley's final season was pretty good for a young kid. You don't finish first in the home and away when you don't have depth

 

[swansfan51]

I've been worried about our bottom half dozen players the past few years but we've been saved by fringe players stepping up. I'm not sure this year has the same potential to cover lack of depth in our best 22. Here's how I roughly rate the list and you'll see about 19 ish and WITHOUT INJURIES we run out of AFL standard players needed to take us to a flag. If we have 3-4 players injured then we will have 6-8 very marginal AFL standard players in our team.

If you do a similar exercise on GWS, it's scary how far we are behind.

I did this exercise since you got me curious.

1. Ward
2. Deledio
3. Shaw
4. Mumford
5. Johnson
6. Shiel
7. Coniglio
8. Scully
9. Cameron
10. Davis
11. Greene
12. D Smith
13. Griffen
14. Whitfield
15. Kelly
16. Haynes
17. A Kennedy
18. Patton
19. Tomlinson
20. Williams
21. Lobb
22. Wilson
23. De Boer
24. Mzungu

Everyone on that list has played 50+ games except Rory Lobb.

Not included:

Jacob Hopper (pick 7, 32 disposals with 17 contested, and 9 clearances on debut)
Tim Taranto (pick 2, 10 CPs and 6 clearances on JLT debut)
Matthew Kennedy (pick 13, 3 goals on debut)

And also:

Tim Mohr
Matthew Buntine
Sam Reid
Aidan Corr
Harrison Himmelberg
Will Setterfield

 

[BloodySwan]

Well this throws a spanner into the works
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2017-03-07/heeney-struck-down

 

[stew42]

Well this throws a spanner into the works
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2017-03-07/heeney-struck-down

So who replaces him? Florent? Cunningham?

 

[caesar88]

Far out that's actually 8 from our GF side out in rd 1. Our depth is gonna be tested and if we come out of it in a good spot we could have a similar year to last season (but hopefully a better outcome)

 

[BloodySwan]

So who replaces him? Florent? Cunningham?

With the way our injuries are going I wouldn't be surprised if both come in.

Alternately, push Mills into the midfield full time and bring in Laidler

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

****ity **** ****


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[Syd]

Glandular Fever FFS

 

[sataris]

Kissing girls will do that

or boys

 

[Wayne Swan]

Glandular Fever, grim, could be missing all year, really grim.

Our list is already short on depth and it's taking a big hit before a game is played in anger. McVeigh, Heeney, Rohan, Aliir (may be avail), Papley. Could start the season with 7-8 of our GF side missing and only replaced with players of doubtful standard or debutants very few of whom are yet to show they deserve a senior game, except for Melican.

A pre season game has never had so much riding on it as Sunday night's encounter with the Saints. Hell we'd want peripheral players to really show they've got something.

Grim, this is looking grim.

 

[scaryness]

B: Smith - Grundy - Rampe
HB: Jones - Aliir - Lloyd
C: Hannebery - Kennedy - Mills
HF: Rohan - Reid - K Jack
F: Tippett - Franklin - Papley
R: Naismith - Parker - Heeney
INT: Hewett - McVeigh - Towers - Laidler

Thinking maybe Cunningham, Florent, Robinson, Edwards and Melican?

 

[Syd]

B: Smith - Grundy - Rampe
HB: Jones - Aliir - Lloyd
C: Hannebery - Kennedy - Mills
HF: Rohan - Reid - K Jack
F: Tippett - Franklin - Papley
R: Naismith - Parker - Heeney
INT: Hewett - McVeigh - Towers - Laidler

Thinking maybe Cunningham, Florent, Robinson and Melican?

Also listed as likely to miss the season start

 

[BloodySwan]

B: Smith - Grundy - Rampe
HB: Jones - Aliir - Lloyd
C: Hannebery - Kennedy - Mills
HF: Rohan - Reid - K Jack
F: Tippett - Franklin - Papley
R: Naismith - Parker - Heeney
INT: Hewett - McVeigh - Towers - Laidler

Thinking maybe Cunningham, Florent, Robinson and Melican?

Marsh, Newman & Edwards could all fill in as well (especially as McVeigh is injured too

 

[Wayne Swan]

Marsh, Newman & Edwards could all fill in as well (especially as McVeigh is injured too

Grim ........