Competitions Best ever Crows players - FINAL - A. McLeod vs M. Ricciuto - Mea Culpa for ruining our season with the delay :(

Who was the better player?

  • Andrew McLeod

  • Mark Ricciuto


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Luke Beveridge got very angry at Daniel Talia so that elevates his standing significantly but it's probably not quite enough
 
Talia got off a speeding fine by saying he was distracted by his sick cat vomiting in the back-seat. First class bullshittery, and it worked. Nearly enough to earn the vote here
 
Daniel Talia
200 games
6 goals
All-Australian 2014, 2016
Best and Fairest 2014
Rising Star winner 2012
4th B&F 2013, 2016


Vs

Ben Hart
311 games
45 goals
All-Australian 1992, 1993, 1999, 2002
Best and Fairest 1999, 2002
Premiership player 1997, 1998
3rd B&F 2001
4th B&F 1997
5th B&F 1992, 2000
2x number of All Australians & B&F says it all.
 

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Lasting memory of Stevens has to be all those injuries. Laying on the ground at Waverley trying to whack his knee cap back into place Darren Cresswell style and it not going back in not knowing he just had to straighten up his leg and it would’ve gone straight back in.

Also even though he was a relatively ‘good-ish’ kick for goal I swear he hung around with Ian Perrie too much when at the Crows because his goalkicking action did turn a little awkward looking compared to when he first came over from North Melbourne.
I was at Dockland round 20 2001. Crows smashed Kangas to seal a finals berth, we kicked 25 goals, with 3 players kicking 5 each (Roo, Stevens and Perrie).

Mc Leod played the perfect game. 35 possessions including a “delicious“ goal according to Bruce and without a shadow of doubt was either BOG or 2nd BOG (Roo with 5 happy to say was best). The Age the next days headline was “Footballs New King” (referring to McLeod overtaking Carey as the best in the game). Come Brownlow night a very confused Macca saw each of the guys kicking 5 getting votes and him missing out, EVERYONE at the game or reporting on the game knew McLeod was at least 2 votes on the night, inc Akka who won the award acknowledging McLeod was robbed (or words to that effect)
 
I was at Dockland round 20 2001. Crows smashed Kangas to seal a finals berth, we kicked 25 goals, with 3 players kicking 5 each (Roo, Stevens and Perrie).

Mc Leod played the perfect game. 35 possessions including a “delicious“ goal according to Bruce and without a shadow of doubt was either BOG or 2nd BOG (Roo with 5 happy to say was best). The Age the next days headline was “Footballs New King” (referring to McLeod overtaking Carey as the best in the game). Come Brownlow night a very confused Macca saw each of the guys kicking 5 getting votes and him missing out, EVERYONE at the game or reporting on the game knew McLeod was at least 2 votes on the night, inc Akka who won the award acknowledging McLeod was robbed (or words to that effect)
I was at that game too - was a demolition job. Very enjoyable.
 
I was at that game too - was a demolition job. Very enjoyable.
Some legend has uploaded on YouTube a number of older games including this one. When you 30 minutes+ over summer just watch the first quarter if not the whole game,

Man, footy was better back then (OK, I acknowledge i must be getting old saying this) in the 1990s/early 2000’s before the Swans / Craigys defensive tactics kicked in. The first quarter alone is probably as breathtaking as ANY quarter of 2023. Fast moving, frenetic, harder with big bumps. Less structured keeping off possessions the main difference IMO. Also less congestion and repeat ball ups.

This game shows just how much talent we had - our most ever elite players. Through initial concessions and shrewd trading in 1990’s. Almost all the Big Guns including Mc Leod, Roo, Jars, Smart, Goody, Edwards, Sugar Kane, Hart, and then also a terribly undersized Bassett playing FB on S Rocca. A very talented young Welsh (very excited by his sons genetics based on how talented Scotty was) . Perrie and M Stevens, Burton before he became a disliked figure…(Rehn and Mods the only missing legendary figures from the 1990’s)

King Carey, Archer, Blakey, Mc Kernan, Grant and Harvey also playing for Roos.

 
I was at Dockland round 20 2001. Crows smashed Kangas to seal a finals berth, we kicked 25 goals, with 3 players kicking 5 each (Roo, Stevens and Perrie).

Mc Leod played the perfect game. 35 possessions including a “delicious“ goal according to Bruce and without a shadow of doubt was either BOG or 2nd BOG (Roo with 5 happy to say was best). The Age the next days headline was “Footballs New King” (referring to McLeod overtaking Carey as the best in the game). Come Brownlow night a very confused Macca saw each of the guys kicking 5 getting votes and him missing out, EVERYONE at the game or reporting on the game knew McLeod was at least 2 votes on the night, inc Akka who won the award acknowledging McLeod was robbed (or words to that effect)
One of the most heartbreaking times
I’ve commented on it a few times. He was robbed
 
Ben Hart was a gun from the moment he turned up to West Lakes until his final year. You'd think this would be closer but Hart was by far a genuine star of the competition for a long time.
 
Ben Hart was a gun from the moment he turned up to West Lakes until his final year. You'd think this would be closer but Hart was by far a genuine star of the competition for a long time.
He was being talked about in The Tiser a year or 2 before being drafted as an incredibly talented athletic player coming through. Crows so lucky to join early 90’s with the abundance of SA talent at that time
 
I'm looking forward to Hart v Max in a decades time...
Kane, if Max can be 75-80% the player Benny was it’s a massive win. Hart an all time legend of the club. Not sure it’s fair to think Max can meet such lofty expectations and as good as he was this year, Hart was so so much better (AA) in his first 2 years. Incredible
 

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