Bleeding continues at Essendon

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by anduril
Hmmmm...so front running Cupes picked up best FIRST year player out at bummer land eh? Interesting logic,considering he has played senior footy at Brisbane over the last year or two.....LOL best FIRST year player....gotta love the brain surgeon that picked him LOL

Dont you just love jealousy???

 

[BomberGal]

Originally posted by Lockyer24
We are on the elevator going up, you are on the way down pal. And don't let the fact we are ahead of schedule fool you that we have missed our opportunity for a flag/s, we're only getting started.

How long have you been on the way up for? How long has everyone been talking about Collingwood's youthful list and how they'll really be the team of the future? You're not young forever. Essendon, on the other hand, are one of the youngest teams in the comp (3rd youngest?), we're only going to improve, I promise you that. We're not going to get worse with a team full of talented youngsters such as we have - making it to the semi final with such a young list is no easy thing. As for Hird, Lloyd & Fletcher, I don't think they need to get any better, do you? I can't see Lloyd suddenly going downhill, and Hird's been a champion for years.

If you're only getting started, you'd wanna hurry up and get started soon, and actually win one.

I'll address the thread topic when (if) it happens.

 

[Macpie]

It seems that you can add Bolton to the revolving door squad now too. The place is in disarray!!

 

[pazza]

Originally posted by anduril
Hmmmm...so front running Cupes picked up best FIRST year player out at bummer land eh? Interesting logic,considering he has played senior footy at Brisbane over the last year or two.....LOL best FIRST year player....gotta love the brain surgeon that picked him LOL

Would have thought it would make perfect sense..first year AT THE CLUB. Incidentally, Adam McPhee was also in the running for it, but, would consider himself pretty stiff to miss it.

 

[pazza]

Originally posted by Macpie
It seems that you can add Bolton to the revolving door squad now too. The place is in disarray!!

Only that Carlton have offered him $300000 a season..Essendon offer on the table as well (should that surprise anyone?)

 

[bOmBeR_BoY1]

Macpie, that was your 1107th post on BigFooty -

in all seriousness how many of those were actually about your own supported team Collingwood and how many were about Essendon and their apparent 'misfortunes' which are generally a load of **** and an exageration from you a lot of the time ...

I'd say 20/80 in favour of Essendon - you don't live in Napier Street do you?

 

[Macpie]

Originally posted by bOmBeR_BoY1
Macpie, that was your 1107th post on BigFooty -

in all seriousness how many of those were actually about your own supported team Collingwood and how many were about Essendon and their apparent 'misfortunes' which are generally a load of **** and an exageration from you a lot of the time ...

I'd say 20/80 in favour of Essendon - you don't live in Napier Street do you?

someone has to keep your feet on the ground. no other teams has such a gap between the talk and the walk as the good ol bombers!

 

[Dave]

Originally posted by Macpie
no other teams has such a gap between the talk and the walk as the good ol bombers!

That's pretty funny coming from a wobbler fan, particularly after last saturday.

 

[Macpie]

Originally posted by Dave
That's pretty funny coming from a wobbler fan, particularly after last saturday.

c'mon Blakey. falling back on the cliches. i look to you for something original!

 

[Dave]

Originally posted by anduril
The bombers were awarded the premiership in 1897 and 1924 when a Grand Final was not played.

Essendon won the premiership in those years after finishing top after the h&A seaosn and winning a round robin finals comp.

16 premierships, 2 clear. Collingwood supporters HATE this big fact!

 

[Macpie]

Originally posted by Dave
Essendon won the premiership in those years after finishing top after the h&A seaosn and winning a round robin finals comp.

16 premierships, 2 clear. Collingwood supporters HATE this big fact!

so they were kinda MINOR premiers those years - sorta like Port Adelaide??

 

[Dave]

Originally posted by Macpie
c'mon Blakey. falling back on the cliches.

Turnabout's fairplay. When it comes to the gap between walk and talk I'd have thought you'd be keeping your mouth shut this week after your teams softco(k effort. All the talk about winning without rocca blah blah blah and then a performace as weak as p|ss. All talk, just like you.

40, 25, 50. Beautiful numbers.

 

[Dave]

Originally posted by Macpie
so they were kinda MINOR premiers those years

Nup. Won the finals series. Big difference.

16 baby, with more to come.

 

[Macpie]

Originally posted by Dave
Nup. Won the finals series. Big difference.

16 baby, with more to come.

did you?. what was the result of the round robin?

 

[BomberGal]

Originally posted by Macpie
someone has to keep your feet on the ground. no other teams has such a gap between the talk and the walk as the good ol bombers!

Um...lol...too funny.

Keep digging that hole.

 

[Dave]

Originally posted by Macpie
did you?. what was the result of the round robin?

Essendon won it.

 

[Macpie]

Originally posted by Dave
Turnabout's fairplay. When it comes to the gap between walk and talk I'd have thought you'd be keeping your mouth shut this week after your teams softco(k effort. All the talk about winning without rocca blah blah blah and then a performace as weak as p|ss. All talk, just like you.

40, 25, 50. Beautiful numbers.

still no comment on Solly, McVeigh, Jacobs, Bolton, Hille I can't hep but notice Blakey. don't pretend it isn't happening now will ya?

 

[Macpie]

Originally posted by Dave
Essendon won it.

both of them i assume. could you direct me to a source for that please Blakey?

 

[Dave]

Originally posted by Macpie
still no comment on Solly, McVeigh, Jacobs, Bolton, Hille I can't hep but notice Blakey.

As I've said, whirl covered it pretty well. Unlike you I see no reason to say something that's already been said.

 

[Dave]

Originally posted by Macpie
both of them i assume.

Yes

could you direct me to a source for that please Blakey?

The AFL.

 

[Macpie]

Originally posted by Dave
Yes



The AFL.

what years were they again. I'll have a look

 

[Pantsless]

1897 Final Series

1. Corio Oval Att: 5000 Ess 5.5 (35) Geel 3.11 (29) Ess by 6
2. MCG Att: 8000 Ess 9.16 (70) Coll 4.6 (30) Ess by 40
3. Albert Park Att: 3800 1.8 (14) Melb 0.8 (8) Ess by 6

Essendon Played 3, Won 3

Essendon finished 2nd at the end of the H&A season and under a final four system would have played Geelong. Ess d Geel to send Essendon straight through to the Grand Final. And seeing as we beat the other two top 4 teams, its no wonder we were awarded the premiership.

1924 Final Series (copied directly from afl.com.au)

1924 Finals Series
Wed 17 July, 2002
Graeme Atkinson
After a very spiteful season, Essendon again topped the home and away ladder with eleven wins, four losses and a tie, ahead of South Melbourne (eleven wins, five losses), and Fitzroy and Richmond (both ten wins, six losses).

The VFL made a foolish decision to change the finals system in 1924, and reverted to the old system whereby the top four teams played each other and the premier team was decided on the results of those matches. This led to the ludicrous situation where Essendon was defeated by Richmond in the last final, but stilI won the premiership on percentage. The system was a farce, and was never repeated. In addition, the public was not interested and gate takings for the six finals amounted to only £6,433, compared with £7 ,862 for four matches in 1923.



Anyway, Essendon won the flag on percentage, despite the thrashing by Richmond at South Melbourne in the last game. It was their second successive flag, but they were a very unhappy team. After their loss to Richmond, players exchanged blows in the rooms. Then, following a team dinner at Carlyon's Hotel, the side returned to Essendon where fists fley.l once more.

The following week, Essendon met Footscray (VFA premiers) in a charity match for 'the Championship of Victoria'. Footscray won nine goals ten to four goals twelve, and again fists flew in the Essendon rooms after the game, when it was alleged that some of the Dons had 'played dead'. In fact, one of the Essendon champions refused ever to appear with the side again, and in 1925 turned out with another League team (where he played in his third successive premiership side).



RESULTS

SEPTEMBER 13- FIRST PLAY-OFF

Richmond 3 .0 5 .1 12 .2 13 .7 (85) South Melbourne 2 .0 7 .1 7 .2 9 .3 (57)

ERR Umpire McMurray Attendance 22,300 Gate £830

BEST -(Rich) Valentine, McCaskill, Mclntosh, Harrison, Thorp, Hislop, Mclsaac, Barnett

(S Melb) McDonald, J Scanlan, Hando, Cazaly, Alexander, Fleiter

GOALS -(Rich) Hayes (5), Millar (2), M Morris (2), Minogue, Barnett, Rudolph, E Taylor

(S Melb) Johnson (3). Cazaly (2), Brown, Tandy, Alexander, Allison

SEPTEMBER 13- SECOND PLAY-OFF

Essendon 0.2 4.6 4. 10 8. 10(58) Fitzroy 0 .1 1 .3 1 .5 2 .6 (18)

MCG Umpire Wickham Attendance 45,000 Gate £1 ,885

BEST -(Ess) Donaldson, Laing, Maher, Hunter, McCarthy, Shorten, Fitzmaurice (Fitz) Atkinson, Adams, Jenkin, Collins, Williams, Wigraft

GOALS -(Ess) Jenkins (3), Maher (2), Fitzmaurice, McCarthy, Stockdale (Fitz) McCracken, Wigraft

SEPTEMBER 20- THIRD PLAY-OFF



Fitzroy 3 .2 4 .5 5 .8 11 .10 (76) Richmond 2 .4 6 .5 7 .7 8 .8 (56)

Princes Park Umpire McKinnon Attendance 26,000 Gate £1' 150

BEST -(Fitz) Batchelor, Corrigan, Bryant, Wigraft, Gale, Rattray, Atkinson, Adams

(Rich) Rudolph, Mclsaac, Smith, M Hislop, Spain, Empey, Morris, Hall

GOALS -(Fitz) Moriarty (3), Freake (2), Chapman (2), Molan, Donnellan, McCracken, Williams

(Rich) M Morris (4), Bourke, Millar, Mclsaac, Rudolph



SEPTEMBER 2o-FOURTH PLAY-OFF

Essendon 2.3 6.4 7.7 10.12(72) South Melbourne 1 .3 2 .4 3 .9 4 .15 (39)

MCG Umpire McMurray Attendance 35,400 Gate £1 ,373

BEST -(Ess) Maher, Shorten, Watt, Sullivan, Farrell, Fitzmaurice

(S Melb) Woodfield, Condon, C McDonald, R McDonald, J Scanlon, Hando

GOALS -(Ess) Jenkins (4), Maher (2), Shorten (2), Hunter, McCarthy (S Melb) Nicholls, Johnson, Cazaly, Ross

SEPTEMBER 27- FIFTH PLAY-OFF

Richmond 4. 2 5. 7 7. 8 9. 13 (67) Essendon 1 .4 2 .8 6 .9 6 .11 (47)

MCG Umpire Wickham Attendance 25,000 Gate £773

BEST -(Rich) J Smith, Hayes, Empey, McCaskill, Morris (Ess) Fitzmaurice, Beckton, Laing, Hardy

GOALS -(Rich) Hayes (3), Empey (2), Barnett, Millar, M Morris, Rudolph (Ess) Hardy (2), Beckton (2), Stockdale (2)

SEPTEMBER 27- SIXTH PLAY-OFF



South Melbourne 4 .1 8 .3 10 .5 13 .8 (86) Fitzroy 4 .2 5 .5 8 .11 10 .13 (73)

MCG Umpire McMurray Attendance 17 ,500 Gate £422

BEST -(S. Melb) J Scanlon, Woodfield, Harris, Cazaly, Tandy, P Scanlon

(Fitz) Atkinson, Wigraft, Bryant, Gale, Chapman, Moriarty, Jenkin, Corrigan



GOALS -(8. Melb) Johnson (4), J Harris (3), O'Connell (2), Brown, Cazaly, Miller, i Tandy

(Fitz) Moriarty (4), Freake (2), Chapman (2), Bryant, Gale

SECOND ROUND LADDER

Team p W L For Agst Pts %

Essendon 3 2 1 177 124 8 142.7

Richmond 3 2 1 208 180 8 115.5

Fitzroy 3 1 2 167 200 4 83.5

South Melb 3 1 2 182 230 4 79.1



FINALS TEAMS

Essendon's team in the final three matches included: Donaldson, Baring, Gregory, Laing, Fitzmaurice, Farrell, Garden, May, Sullivan, Rowley, Watt, McCarthy, Shorten, Hunter, Jenkins, Stockdale, Barker (c), Rawle, Maher, Beckton, Hardy. (Coach S Q Barker.)

Richmond's team in the final three matches included: Harrison, Thorp, Taylor, J Smith. M Hislop, Spain, McCaskill, Mclntosh, Valentine, Empey, Rudolph, Millar, Bourke, M Morris, Barnett, Minogue (c), Mclsaac, Hayes, G Hislop, Hall, Reid, Karthaus. (Coach D Minogue.)

 

[Macpie]

. This led to the ludicrous situation where Essendon was defeated by Richmond in the last final, but stilI won the premiership on percentage. The system was a farce, and was never repeated.

[/B]

that doesn't quite like you described it Blakey. You said they won!! 16 hmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!

btw Thanks for the AFL source!!

 

[BomberGal]

Originally posted by Macpie
that doesn't quite like you described it Blakey. You said they won!! 16 hmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!

btw Thanks for the AFL source!!

How long are you going to get off track and argue about the technicalities of what a premiership is, instead of just accepting that the official AFL record for premierships won by the Essendon Football Club is sixteen...like it or lump it.

 

[Macpie]

Originally posted by BomberGal
How long are you going to get off track and argue about the technicalities of what a premiership is, instead of just accepting that the official AFL record for premierships won by the Essendon Football Club is sixteen...like it or lump it.

14 GF wins and a couple of de factos eh