Injury Blue Healers Discussion - 2024

[swuzzlebubble]

Lots of tests

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[JustaBattler]

As long as the club are asking questions..

Not just questions, but serious questions.

Serious, probing questions..

Actually, serious, probing, no holds barred questions.

And after the serious, probing, no holds barred questions, I hope the club is asking random members of the Club High Performance and Coaching team Likert scale questions.

And then when I find out that there is no case to answer, other than bad luck, then I will look for other things to question.

And bot just questions, but serious questions ..

Serious, probing questions..

I dont wish to consider in too much depth the whole idea of probing questions or otherwise.

 

[Opium]

Have also heard the club is concerned Walsh hasn't responded as well as hoped with rest.

 

[Aphrodite]

Have also heard the club is concerned Walsh hasn't responded as well as hoped with rest.

Hearing from social media/fan accounts?

 

[Opium]

Hearing from social media/fan accounts?

No. Directly from the club.

 

[Aphrodite]

No. Directly from the club.

So you have a contact at the Club.

 

[ESKIE]

When did Martin get injured?

 

[JustaBattler]

When did Martin get injured?

About 7 years ago...

 

[Arr0w]

So, at this stage only Jsos (out for the year) and Weitering to miss the first game?

 

[carlton_99]

So, at this stage only Jsos (out for the year) and Weitering to miss the first game?

Martin noted as 2-3 weeks and OR is 16 days away so will be cutting it close

 

[Arr0w]

Martin noted as 2-3 weeks and OR is 16 days away so will be cutting it close

Okay, another 50/50

 

[HaydossJ]

So, at this stage only Jsos (out for the year) and Weitering to miss the first game?

Don't forget Markov.. sakc Russell!

 

[Opium]

the main reason we asked the thread to stop speculating was a lack of evidence or anything but an unsupported facebook rumour

this is prett concrete and so, post on

Is the club releasing it as official still speculation?

 

[marcmurphy3]

I wonder if the club needs to be stronger with Walsh regarding adjusting his training approach going forward?

Judd was known as a beast trainer in his early years and while it helped him win a brownlow by year 3 it also shortened his career and caused him alot of problems in his later years (according to him).

Been great hearing reports of Walsh killing it over preseason but the reality is this will likely be the 3rd time in as many seasons we start without him.

Great training is irrelevent if you keep missing games through injury.

 

[Arr0w]

I wonder if the club needs to be stronger with Walsh regarding adjusting his training approach going forward?

Judd was known as a beast trainer in his early years and while it helped him win a brownlow by year 3 it also shortened his career and caused him alot of problems in his later years (according to him).

Been great hearing reports of Walsh killing it over preseason but the reality is this will likely be the 3rd time in as many seasons we start without him.

Great training is irrelevent if you keep missing games through injury.

He better learn soon

I heard he weaved through 5 hatstands, a robotic vacuum and a set of coloured plastic door curtains just to gather the last rice crisp from his house mates

 

[jj1978]

Way I see it, first round (or round zero) is usually a free (didn't Brisbane get smacked last year 1st game) hit of sorts as clubs find their feet. Don't fly Walsh, Martin, Marchy etc up to QLD let them rest and get ready for the Tigers game. Give some opportunity to some of the young kids and depth who usually come into these early games flying somewhat and taper off as the season wears on. Our midfield, forward line and ruck is looking reasonable for round 0 on present list status, our backline is the one with some concern as the lack of the Bots leadership and poise will be hardest to cover.

Lets just hope that JD and Faux Nadal don't have their kicking and marking boots on, and Cameron doesn't have a flyer.

 

[Soapy V]

I thought he wasn't injured?

He’s NOT

 

[Soapy V]

FWIW the message I got is Walsh was bit sore after a couple of tough match sessions that were full on. Got hit hard a couple of times. Woke up sore around back area. No major issues just sore. Can still run etc but club is now extremely cautious with any players with history.

Hasn’t had one issue all pre season with back. Thought a week may do it but improving a bit slower so made call.

Given his previous back issues he will not play until he feels 100% so decision (after not missing a session all pre season) is to take it easy and freshen up before season. Can still do fitness etc just no contact. Very simple and no big deal

 

[bradfisher14]

FWIW the message I got is Walsh was bit sore after a couple of tough match sessions that were full on. Got hit hard a couple of times. Woke up sore around back area. No major issues just sore. Can still run etc but club is now extremely cautious with any players with history.

Hasn’t had one issue all pre season with back

Given his previous back issues he will not play until he feels 100% so decision (after not missing a session all pre season) is to take it easy and freshen up before season. Can still do fitness etc just no contact. Very simple and no big deal

Thank you mate

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Communication 101, don’t let the media run the narrative. It’s as simple as that.

You couldn’t possibly believe they thought it would stay under wraps.


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There is no difference between reality and what the media went with, aside from a couple of alarmist headlines. Those would have come even if the media was second to the announcement.

 

[JuddgementDay]

FWIW the message I got is Walsh was bit sore after a couple of tough match sessions that were full on. Got hit hard a couple of times. Woke up sore around back area. No major issues just sore. Can still run etc but club is now extremely cautious with any players with history.

Hasn’t had one issue all pre season with back. Thought a week may do it but improving a bit slower so made call.

Given his previous back issues he will not play until he feels 100% so decision (after not missing a session all pre season) is to take it easy and freshen up before season. Can still do fitness etc just no contact. Very simple and no big deal

Phew - so we can put these signs away

 

[BlueNath]

There is no difference between reality and what the media went with, aside from a couple of alarmist headlines. Those would have come even if the media was second to the announcement.

"There is no difference between reality and what the media went with"!!!! As much as I agree with you on this occasion, I wish we could trust that was always true with modern media

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Phew - so we can put these signs away

I agree. There is no need for people to use their heads.

But just in case ...

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

"There is no difference between reality and what the media went with"!!!! As much as I agree with you on this occasion, I wish we could trust that was always true with modern media

It's not, but on this occasion they got the story exactly right, so that would have come from someone within the club. No need to get out in front of a story that you fed to the media.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Last year we had over half a dozen best 22 missing for an extended period and won every game bar v GWS which was a dead rubber...

We'll be fine.

 

[Coops93]

So much angst about injuries at the moment, I think we all need to take a breath.

Marchbank - It's an illness and they'll manage his return - a non-concern. (which is rare anytime Marchbank is on an injury report...)

Durdin - Returning from injury and taking the conservative route not playing a pre-season game. A non-concern.

Matt Owies - See above. Non-concern.

Jack Martin

21

Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

- Slightly disappointing, but not a bad injury. Only likely to miss pre-season games. Should be right for rd 0, but if not he'll be right for rd 2. A very mild concern.

Sam Walsh

18

Sam Walsh

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.1

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.2

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

10.8

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

4.8

5star

- Somewhat concerning given his history, but given what we've heard in here (aside from 1 apparent itk) and from the wider media is that it isn't serious and if anything is just a conservative approach heading into the season. Walsh missing pre-season games isn't as hurtful in terms of match fitness as others given his fitness base. The only mild concern is that it's his back and he has history, if he had no history this would be a non-concern but due to history it's a mild concern with a watch attached.

We're basically talking about guys missing scratch matches here, not regular season. It's not that big a deal, we're doing ok injury wise. There's not much here to get worked up about.