Injury Blue Healers Discussion - 2024

[BRADLESTICKS]

Two ways to look at the injury list. There are too many best 22 and top end players on it and it's a bad one. Or most of them are training in some capacity and will be back within the month.

A lot of those players are recurring injuries and injury prone players so none of us can really be surprised there.

At one stage we had nearly everyone training and a really fit list. Things have gone south in the last month. Are we pushing things too hard? Probably not unless David King is right about our training being super hard.

Weitering is a standard footy injury, you're going to have these on your list. Silvagni is a standard footy injury. Marchbank is bad luck. Motlop is an accidental injury. Carroll is a standard footy injury and Walsh is concerning.

Marchbank and Motlop I agree that is just bad luck and these things happen.

Weitering having a major calf anywhere from (10-14 weeks) is concerning I can’t think of another 26 year old key back who is as slow as weitering having a severe calf injury.

Silvagni doing his acl at training coming back from a knee injury at the end of last season is definitely an issue and continues a trend over the last few years of our injured players coming back and re-injuring themselves straight away Cripps, Cerra, Hewett, Walsh and Kennedy just some examples.

Walsh is the major worry though I can’t think of another club that has had so many non impact stress related back injuries especially to key midfielders (Cripps, Hewett and now Walsh). Those type of injuries usually happen to young key position players still growing into their bodies and adjusting to new training loads not midfielders.

 

[thylacine60]

They were actually separate points but fair enough if that's how you've taken it. Not nessecarily blaming the fitness staff for the other injuries either. Just saying we need to look at it.

are you somehow suggesting the club isn't "looking at it"?

 

[Arr0w]

So Weiters was on SEN today, said that they knew it was a 10-12 week injury when he tore his calf.

Why did the club tell us 6-8?

Where did the club state it would be a 6-8 week injury?

 

[Bletch]

Where did the club state it would be a 6-8 week injury?

Recall I heard he was aiming for a rd 4 return since a day or two after the injury happened. Nothing much has changed since then.

 

[thylacine60]

Recall I heard he was aiming for a rd 4 return since a day or two after the injury happened. Nothing much has changed since then.

tram, physio or facebook?

 

[Bletch]

tram, physio or facebook?

Here maybe?

 

[Aphrodite]

Where did the club state it would be a 6-8 week injury?

Never saw anything from the Club 6 - 8 weeks in Jan.


3 weeks ago on the Club's Insta & website

Weitering provides update on recovery timeline

Hear the latest on how Jacob Weitering is tracking in his recovery.

www.carltonfc.com.au

 

[Bletch]

3 weeks ago on the Club's Insta & website

Weitering provides update on recovery timeline

Hear the latest on how Jacob Weitering is tracking in his recovery.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Ok, but that's not 6-8 weeks from when the injury occurred. Pretty sure club's messaging has been consistent all the way through on Weiters.

 

[Aphrodite]

Ok, but that's not 6-8 weeks from when the injury occurred. Pretty sure club's messaging has been consistent all the way through on Weiters.

No it isn't happened in January Bletch.

6 - 8 weeks from 3 weeks ago.

 

[Bletch]

No it isn't happened in January Bletch.

6 - 8 weeks from 3 weeks ago.

Maybe I worded that badly - I think we're in furious agreement. Agree, it's 6-8 weeks from 3 weeks ago, not from when the injury first happened (mid-Jan).

 

[Aphrodite]

Maybe I worded that badly - I think we're in furious agreement. Agree, it's 6-8 weeks from 3 weeks ago, not from when the injury first happened (mid-Jan).

Exactly

 

[Arr0w]

This is the timeline and comments that I know of

Time of the injury

Carlton star sidelined after suffering serious injury at training

The nasty setback puts the crucial player in doubt for the early rounds of the season.

7news.com.au

Direct quote from the club

“Jacob Weitering

23

Jacob Weitering

Age

27

Ht

195cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

4.7

3star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

189.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.8

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

0.8

3star

MG

263.4

4star

is expected to be sidelined for an extended period with a calf injury,” the club said in a statement.

“The injury occurred during Friday’s main training session, with scans confirming a high-grade calf strain.
“The injury will be reviewed in the coming weeks to determine return to play timelines.”

Within 4 weeks later

Calf injury leaves star Blue 'on the edge' for Opening Round

www.afl.com.au

As part of the article by not quoting anyone from the club

The star backman suffered a high-grade calf strain at training in January that was expected to sideline him for six-to-eight weeks of the pre-season.

Then Voss

"I think it's unlikely. He's on that edge about whether he does or he doesn't, but certainly in the next week or two he has a couple of milestones he needs to tick off for him to feel comfortable," Voss told AFL.com.au.

"I'll wait for those milestones and make some definitive calls on when we think [his return date] might be."

 

[Arr0w]

Still intrigued about the one way traffic

 

[marcmurphy3]

It was the Herald Sun that reported 6-8 weeks when the injury occurred. The club didn't initially give a timeline. That 6-8 week number was circulating around this board so can understand why people grabbed onto it in the absence of other information.

I always thought 6-8 weeks sounded overly optimistic given 10-12 weeks is pretty standard for high grade calf strains.

 

[Aphrodite]

Just now ...

What they said: Weitering on recovery and return

Jacob Weitering spoke to SEN as the Blues prepare for Opening Round.

www.carltonfc.com.au

“The timeline was always the timeline in terms of being a 10-12 week injury. Initially I did think it was my Achilles, but the scans showed otherwise and I went to work on my rehab.

“Best case is North in Round 3. We obviously have the Lions this week and we come back and play on a six-day turnaround on Thursday, the big one at the ‘G. It’s a funny one because we do have that bye, which is probably a really good thing for me in that it gives me that extra week to prepare and build some more fitness and more capacity and hopefully allow me to come back and perform.”

 

[Juddernaut08]

Injuries aren't great, but silver lining is that these 12 week injuries happening during preseason means key players are only going to miss 2-3 games rather than 8-12.

Hopefully we get a clear run for the rest of the season!

 

[Bletch]

The 10-12 week estimate Weiters talked about had leaked to this forum within a week of the injury. I posted this on 19-Jan (in response to Blue_Hock )

Heard similar... When he did it, fears were it was at the extreme end of a calf injury, but later was 'bad' but not 'extreme' (my words). Will treat conservatively, with a view to a return in the first month of the season.

I'd heard it third hand a day or two after the news first broke. Didn't post till I saw Blue Hock's post with the same info.

I get that the H/S journo might have published a guess, but info we've been hearing from club has been consistent all the way through, and most of the talk on this forum has been the same.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Long covid could be a career killer.

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You can put your house on Marchy getting the worst of Covid


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[kreuze_missile]

Latest Walsh scoop.

Expectation is that he will play hurt all year. First game planned for round 3.

Also learned that Walsh played hurt towards the end of the 2022 season prior to surgery.

He’s unhappy with how his injury has been managed to date.

Not good.

 

[FanofFev]

Latest Walsh scoop.

Expectation is that he will play hurt all year. First game planned for round 3.

Also learned that Walsh played hurt towards the end of the 2022 season prior to surgery.

He’s unhappy with how his injury has been managed to date.

Not good.

Will he require further surgery at the end of the year?

 

[Opium]

Latest Walsh scoop.

Expectation is that he will play hurt all year. First game planned for round 3.

Also learned that Walsh played hurt towards the end of the 2022 season prior to surgery.

He’s unhappy with how his injury has been managed to date.

Not good.

Heard the same. Terrible management all things considered. Could potentially cut short his career.

 

[kreuze_missile]

Will he require further surgery at the end of the year?

I don’t know.

10/10 source but it’s second hand info.

 

[bradfisher14]

So now we're sakcing Russell and Walsh is reqsueting a trade?

 

[ferrisb]

and they're off................

With all this missed footy, Walsh might only play ~375 games...

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

You guys are seriously out for blood re Russell.

Not even 2 months ago Walsh said on a pod that he was told by the surgeon it's a 24 month injury and that at stages he had to manage it last year... that that's just part of the recovery for it... This was all before his latest flare up.

He also admitted on Dyl that he didn't tell the club about his injury concern initially so he could keep playing to try and make finals at the end of 2022 until it was so bad in the Melbourne game that he had to come clean.

I'm not buying for 1 second he's unhappy with the club, he was the reason it got so bad to begin with.