Injury Blue Healers Discussion - 2024

[Aphrodite]

Latest Injury Update 16th July …





UPDATES on four Blues leading into Round 19:-

Zac Williams (hamstring)

• Underwent scans which have confirmed a hamstring strain following the game against the Western Bulldogs
• The Club will work through a timeline of recovery over the next week

Orazio Fantasia (calf)

• Managing calf soreness out of the VFL game on Sunday
• Availability: Test

Mitch McGovern (hip flexor)

- Availability: Test

Billy Wilson (illness)

• Was a late withdrawal from the VFL game on Sunday due to illness
• Availability: Test

Injury news: Updates on Williams, McGovern

News on four Blues leading into Round 19.

www.carltonfc.com.au

UPDATE 22ND JULY:-

Injury news: De Koning sidelined

The latest on Tom De Koning.

www.carltonfc.com.au

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Unless the club are about to bob up and announce out of nowhere that either he had only a partial tear, or that he opted for a non-surgical route and has responded exceptionally well, he's zero chance to return unless he plans to retire if he fails.

Jack is far greater outside chance as he's about 7 weeks ahead in his recovery, and even that's a stretch given he'd barely be past 8 months recovery on Grand Final day.

Doc possibly put him nbthe rookie list, doesn’t change his contract details also frees up a list spot if we need to..

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Doc possibly put him nbthe rookie list, doesn’t change his contract details also frees up a list spot if we need to..

Can you just simply move players from the senior list to the rookie list?
Or do they have to be de-listed(making them available to be selected by other clubs) and the re-selected by Carlton in the rookie draft?

Our biggest problem seems to be that most of our 'dispensable' players are all on the rookie list, might need to trade a few good or older players in the next couple of years?

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Docs not going anywhere and no club would touch him, I think that is a very good idea to move to the rookie list


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[RPCB]

Docs not going anywhere and no club would touch him, I think that is a very good idea to move to the rookie list


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Yep.

Even if the club delisted Doc, they would have a free run at him in the rookie draft. If there is one player that deserves to get to his club of choice in the rookie draft, it’s Sam Docherty, and every other club knows that and would act accordingly in not drafting him.

 

[Manhattanite]

Unless the club are about to bob up and announce out of nowhere that either he had only a partial tear, or that he opted for a non-surgical route and has responded exceptionally well, he's zero chance to return unless he plans to retire if he fails.

Jack is far greater outside chance as he's about 7 weeks ahead in his recovery, and even that's a stretch given he'd barely be past 8 months recovery on Grand Final day.

Yep both unlikely and everyone heals differently but it does seem that McStay is ready to play now - they may hold him back another few weeks - but I think he did his ACL a little less than two months before Jack - so a similar time frame would mean Jack back in first week of finals - but as I said everyone heals differently besides McStay is more integral to his team than Jack is to ours




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[Bongo Drum]

Happy to be corrected but didn't Jack experience complications post ACL surgery? He might have mentioned it during a radio gig earlier in the year - this was some weeks after Doc had his surgery iirc.

So Jack might actually be behind-schedule compared to Doc, despite injuring his ACL earlier.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Neither Jack or Doc are playing this year. Players don't come back post ACL straight into the heat of finals footy.

 

[RPCB]

Neither Jack or Doc are playing this year. Players don't come back post ACL straight into the heat of finals footy.

We’ve never had a player suffer an ACL injury before, so how are we to know that AFL players simply don’t come back in the very year they’ve suffered the injury.

Oh wait………………

 

[Bletch]

Injury news: Test for four Blues

Tests for four Blues including Weitering and De Koning.

www.carltonfc.com.au

 

[BigFrizz36]

So where does Jack Martin

21

Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

start back this week? Listed as a test. Generally means good to go.

Good news for HOK as well. We might have a glut of rucks in the twos .

 

[Aphrodite]

Latest Injury Update 9th July …





HERE is the latest injury news heading into Round 18:-

Jacob Weitering

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Jacob Weitering

Age

26

Ht

195cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

4.7

3star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

189.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.8

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

0.8

3star

MG

263.4

4star

(cork)
• Experienced a cork to the quad in first quarter against GWS
• Availability: Test

Tom De Koning (ankle)
• Experienced a rolled ankle in first quarter of the game against GWS
• Availability: Test

Jack Martin (hamstring)
• Availability: Test

Hudson O’Keeffe (hamstring)
• Availability: Test

Sam Docherty (knee)
• Has been able to progress to the next stage of his rehabilitation (non-contact, light skills training)
• Will continue to work through this phase of his recovery over the coming months

Injury news: Test for four Blues

Tests for four Blues including Weitering and De Koning.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Update 11th July …

McGovern (hip flexor) was unavailable for selection after being unable to train on Thursday, with the defender expected to be sidelined for the next 1-2 weeks

 

[carlton_99]

So where does Jack Martin start back this week? Listed as a test. Generally means good to go.

Good news for HOK as well. We might have a glut of rucks in the twos .

I assume Martin goes back through the VFL - can't really think of an obvious player to go out for him atm other than Fantasia and I think Motlop would get first dibs on that given his work in the VFL

 

[Aphrodite]

Latest Injury Update stickied

 

[Arr0w]

So essentially 4 on the injury list?

 

[carlton_99]

So essentially 4 on the injury list?

Hopefully Weiters/TDK get up

 

[Arr0w]

Hopefully Weiters/TDK get up

Should do

 

[CaptainCharisma]

I really hope we take the Cuningham route with Jack this time, half in the VFL before a full match then available for ones.
Can be a serious difference maker in the lead up to finals like last year. Another set back will be the end for him at Carlton I suspect.

Lets hope Weitering and TDK get up.

 

[Mondyboy]

So essentially 4 on the injury list?

Yes. Though we’ve never seen Matt Carroll (though I did bump into him in the Legends Lounge), so does he count?


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[Zlatan]

hopefully Weitering can be uncorked during the week

 

[Big Delut]

Weiters should look into wearing something similar to Jeff White

Jeff White

Age

47

Ht

195cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

6.3

4star

HO

18.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

6.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

1.6

2star

HO

3.0

5star

's old thigh guards. He seems to get so many corkies

 

[Blue Bloods]

Weiters should look into wearing something similar to Jeff White's old thigh guards. He seems to get so many corkies

Good call not sure how effective they are, but better than nothing as long as it doesn’t affect his movement. Can see coaches against us in a big final suggesting to key forward to use knees into his thighs/quad if possible in the marking contests

 

[BigFrizz36]

Hopefully Weiters/TDK get up

Are we going at 100% on players listed as test so far? Seems to mean O.K. unless something happens from here on in.

 

[carlton_99]

Are we going at 100% on players listed as test so far? Seems to mean O.K. unless something happens from here on in.

Yeh it does seem like test is usually a sign at Carlton that they will play at some level.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Yeh it does seem like test is usually a sign at Carlton that they will play at some level.

Test should mean they're over their injury and ok to play subject to no relapse

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Yes. Though we’ve never seen Matt Carroll (though I did bump into him in the Legends Lounge), so does he count?

Given Doc and JSOS are season, it's really only Durdin who would be in contention for a senior game this year.