Don't say that D word....just Don't
Bluemour Discussion Thread XVII - Coniglio means Rabbit in Italian!
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Can't have enough options IMO
Jabba73
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If Papley and Hill come on board I found it hard to see Cunningham on the list as much as I love him as a player I’m sure clubs will ask about him.Having only Adelaide’s first pick and not much else means we need to trade not sure next years picks will be enough as well.Hope I’m wrong but I think they’ll ask the question.
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Oh. Ok.
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I feel like Marlon Brando in the Superman movie. Running around telling all the wise elders that this is disasterous but they don't listen. Nek minute, kapoweee- ruination.
Don't make me put Walsh in a capsule and send him to another team.
Heed the warning. No Rossy No Lyes.
Its all about incremental improvement when you talk list.
Every season a bit stronger to create pressure on players to perform or play 2nds.
Its one thing to have talented youth and train them and they mature. But theres nothing like fighting for your spot in the 22.
Every season a bit stronger to create pressure on players to perform or play 2nds.
Its one thing to have talented youth and train them and they mature. But theres nothing like fighting for your spot in the 22.
I’d be pretty happy with a Teague mentored by Roos coaching combo and a Tom Papley acquisition.
But seeing as most rumours completely contradict the previous one it all has to be taken with a grain of salt. And now I’m on blood pressure meds so I can’t take too much salt.
But seeing as most rumours completely contradict the previous one it all has to be taken with a grain of salt. And now I’m on blood pressure meds so I can’t take too much salt.
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He’s a much better player now than he was when he left Hawthorn.
He’s also contracted for another two seasons after this one.
So I’ll ask again, why would Fremantle accept a future 2nd for one of their best & most important players?
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There is the risk of losing our own players to other teams.
Because he wants to leave and once he nominates a deal will be done. Happens every year
I also said there will be other parts to it like other picks etc. Look at most of our deals under SOS, they have included multiple picks/trades. My comments were starting points. I thought that was clear
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I’m confused now.
When you become good there always is. More about culture and success that they will want to stay
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I don't think we have to prefer it, as that will be ultimately be he case.
Terrible List Management (TPP related) to waste extracting players from clubs
No team has 'real quality' stretching that deep and certainly not 30-35 ready to go players.
Money has to be set aside for the premium players and have a tapering spread thereafter.
Wouldn't want to see us paying some players 300K to play reserves football.
You don't need to many of them to slice into the ability to retain the players you really need.
There's no absolute here, but this is what worries me about reaching for players that cost, simply to rotate with types one already has.
Who was it on the radio the other day suggesting that Hill was worth 2 1sts.
Talk about extremes.
Hill should be able to reel in a pick around that 10-15 for Freo though, one would think.
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The insane can happen. Once a player wants out and is determined to be out a deal gets done. When they aren’t as determined like Gibbs or Kelly then a deal doesn’t get done.
Maybe Dockers will be fine with a pick upgrade eg our 2020 first for their 2020 second. If we do better than them next season then it’s a maybe 15 pick downgrade. They will back themselves to make it a 25 pick upgrade.
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Also depends on offers, who wants them and what we are doing. So many variables at the moment
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All at once? Or a couple?
Trade value of a player is a depreciating scale, predominantly around age, although formline, needs, contract status, etc are factors in said value
When Hill was traded from the Hawks, he still had a year to run on his contract. While his possession count has increased, his goal kicking output has reduced, along with his disposal efficiency (the latter probably has more to do, with the different gameplans).Three years on and turning 27 next year, that trade value scale really kicks in (how much time does he have left in the game, see Gibbs as somewhat of a reference)
Given the above, I see his value still being a mid 2nd rounder at best. Although if I was fremantle, I would be looking for more, an early 2nd rounder would still get the deal done
I always found the make up of the Sydney 2012 flag fascinating.
They used just 31 players for the year.
20 played 19 games or more.
The Pike/Mumford combo played 18/17 respectively, which makes 22.
The other 9 players who played bit parts:
Everitt, Armstrong, Denis-Lane, Seaby, Morton, Rohan, White, Walsh, Cunningham. The majority all delisted not long after.
Some names who didn't get a game all year. McNeil, Spangher, Meredith, Moore, Heath, Krueger, Lynch, Brown and Gordon!
Based on this we've wasted too much bandwidth and hours arguing whether we'd be better off with Holman, Gowers, Buckley or Shaw, Mullett, OShea, or based on that last list of names - some of our other questionable late picks.
Basic takeaway, keep working on the top end, get your injury management sorted, pray for a little luck, and the last few names on the list won't matter....
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