Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXV - 'Loopy' Season has begun

[SurreyBlue]

This year's and next year's first will be enough you'd think for pick 8. Which after the academy picks could be 10-12.

Couldn't possible not be enough. For Geelong to expect more, is insane but then again, it’s us.

 

[Ash24]

2025 picks available in next years trade period. Don't need to get all our ducks in a row for next season until.... next season.

Maybe I'm just the only one who doesn't want to go into 2025 with a big deficit of picks.

In which case I can already see everyone being like we are this year and just wanting a stronger and stronger draft hand, so we'd be stuck in a loop of trading in future picks until we trade out enough players to catch up and end the cycle haha.

 

[The Bighouse]

After watching a podcast(Schofield) re Schultz from freo I don’t blame him for leaving,treated poorly.


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Can you please elaborate on the poor treatment (delisted & rookied?)?

Motlop doesn't have much to do in order to bridge the gap between he and Elliott. I wouldn't call Elliott elite, but very good. Motlop has the potential to be the best of his namesake.

However, Schultz would be a huge addition to the side. I do think Durdin will be a 150-200 gamer, he has shown plenty but there are more ?'s for him than there are Motters.

Hollands will be an immediate upgrade on our HFF, serving as a true HFF that can pinch hit in the middle rather than a Zac Fisher/Paddy Dow type. We could outnumber at contest and spread. I see him as a budget Sam Walsh (by way of running capacity, and ability to get in the right spot at the contest for the receive) with great forward nous. He isn't a superstar but he is, for mine, a best 22 player.

I’d ship Motlop off to the west for Schultz, the ol’ straight swap. I don’t particularly like Schultz when watching footy (minimal Dockers) but he’d add another dimension to our forward line that we could do with immediately.
Draft another small forward this draft or down the track to replace the developing Motlop.

We also need a Jamie Elliott type who can take a mark/lead and add to our aerial threats plus be good enough on the ground.

 

[HarryFlashman]

If I was paid to write the clubs press releases, then that's exactly what I'd produce.(after a non-disclosure agreement between Jonesy and his management was signed)
I must be just more forgiving than most around me, and he was obviously 'requested' not to comment.

At the time, commenting wasn’t going to win him any favors & he would have been slammed.
Now, not so much, but I think he’s taking the smart path & hasn’t really said much - think it will help his book sales if he goes down that route.

 

[Ash24]

Easily, have you not watched how this bidding system works?

Makes me think some haven't done the maths on how many points and what sort of picks we'll need to match those (potentially very early) bids.

Ben will very likely go around pick 5 and Lucas potentially pick 20-30, which after the F/S discount is around 2230 points. For reference even if we keep our entire set of 2024 picks and finish 3rd, it's still only 1800 points. So already we need an early future 3rd just to break even, while trading out our future 1st just puts us at a further disadvantage for 2025 and beyond.

I'd rather we go conservative this year while the draft is very shallow and our list needs can be sorted easily.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Has Liam Jones played a final, yet?

Who cares?
More importantly, would Carlton's backline been stronger with him at CHB this year?

 

[WalshYouLegend]

Our number 1 priority is to move up the geelongs pick 8 or better.

Yep and once we have secured Pick 8 we will bundle it with Fish to Norf and secure Pick 1. Can’t wait for Austin to work his magic.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Oscar…

I remember hearing Juddy say Oscar is more into cricket, and that he is a gun cricketer. Think he still plays footy, though is clearly a talented athlete like dad.

 

[Garters]

Jesus H Christ I hate this sort of automatic negativity.

For all you know we had discussions with him.

For all you know he identified Collingwood as a preferred club and his manager only ever spoke to them.

There are countless reasons he might choose them over us. Anything from "they just won a flag" to "their ball movement is really impressive and will suit my game" to "I really like their facilities" to "Blake Acres called me a w***er once and now I don't want to play with him".

Just because we internet peons like a player, it doesn't mean that them going elsewhere is evidence of negligence by our club.

So why does it feel like whenever a decent player is linked to any club other than Carlton we get these personal little rainclouds forming overhead?

1 like for the post, 2nd like for the use of Internet peons as a collective noun. Love it.

 

[Arr0w]

Still going on about Liam Jones

19

Liam Jones

Age

33

Ht

199cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

134.5

2star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.1

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

? What next, Gibbs?

 

[thylacine60]

Jesus H Christ I hate this sort of automatic negativity.

For all you know we had discussions with him.

For all you know he identified Collingwood as a preferred club and his manager only ever spoke to them.

There are countless reasons he might choose them over us. Anything from "they just won a flag" to "their ball movement is really impressive and will suit my game" to "I really like their facilities" to "Blake Acres called me a w***er once and now I don't want to play with him".

Just because we internet peons like a player, it doesn't mean that them going elsewhere is evidence of negligence by our club.

So why does it feel like whenever a decent player is linked to any club other than Carlton we get these personal little rainclouds forming overhead?

as I said earlier, this time of year sees a massive spike in fear of missing out syndrome - I believe the kids refer to it as fomo......

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

** wonders if this a good time to publicly revisit the non-decisions to bring Albert Proud

Albert Proud

Age

36

Ht

180cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

5.5

2star

HB

6.0

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

7.8

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

and Mitch Thorp to the club?**

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

Still going on about Liam Jones? What next, Gibbs?

Look I didn’t wanna say it but MAN we got ripped by the AFL over Waite going to Norf

 

[WalshYouLegend]

Still going on about Liam Jones? What next, Gibbs?

Good point, Gibbs would have been handy through the middle and to kick a few goals against the Lions. Oh, if only.

 

[KohPhi]

Please tell me their names are Luke and Sky.

Or Tex and Ranger..

 

[Wickzki]

Look I didn’t wanna say it but MAN we got ripped by the AFL over Waite going to Norf

None of this would have happened had we gotten Daniel Wells and Brendon Goddard into the club.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Guys, hear me out

Orazio Fantasia

14

Orazio Fantasia

Age

29

Ht

180cm

Wt

73kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.1

5star

G

1.4

5star

D

9.8

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.4

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

2star

G

0.2

3star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.0

1star

DFA

No? Get ****ed Fev?

Put the campaigner through a proper medical and if he passes chuck him $80k and a rookie list spot (space permitting)

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

None of this would have happened had we gotten Daniel Wells and Brendon Goddard into the club.

The club needed to go as hard as it could for Horace Ferguson before he crossed to Geelong from Melbourne in 1936.

Should have offered him German Reichsmark’s currency (which would have tripled his investment three years later … until 1945).

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Guys, hear me out

Orazio Fantasia

DFA

No? Get ****ed Fev?

Put the campaigner through a proper medical and if he passes chuck him $80k and a rookie list spot (space permitting)

An Italian sounding name at Carlton??? that’ll be the day.

 

[GT619]

Still going on about Liam Jones? What next, Gibbs?

Fevola, Sam Jacobs have I missed anyone

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

The club needed to go as hard as it could for Horace Ferguson before he crossed to Geelong from Melbourne in 1936.

Should have offered him German Reichsmark’s currency (which would have tripled his investment three years later … until 1945).

See, these gap filling conversations between seasons are fun.
Liam Henry and Lachie Schultz being traded to Carlton are just as unlikely.

 

[Dramoth]

Forced to retire and not by the club.

No... he retired rather that sit out the year on a medical exclusion because he wouldn't get jabbed. He wasn't forced to retire by anybody.

 

[esoteric]

Fevola, Sam Jacobs have I missed anyone

Ken Greenwood. And then kicked the sealer against us the next season.

 

[DangerousD]

Makes me think some haven't done the maths on how many points and what sort of picks we'll need to match those (potentially very early) bids.

Ben will very likely go around pick 5 and Lucas potentially pick 20-30, which after the F/S discount is around 2230 points. For reference even if we keep our entire set of 2024 picks and finish 3rd, it's still only 1800 points. So already we need an early future 3rd just to break even, while trading out our future 1st just puts us at a further disadvantage for 2025 and beyond.

I'd rather we go conservative this year while the draft is very shallow and our list needs can be sorted easily.

Brisbane was able to get Ashcroft at pick 2 and Fletcher at pick 12, whilst at the same time bringing in Dunkley and Gunston. They had more than enough points by using late 2nds and third round picks.

It’s a non issue and something that we could pay for quite easy.

 

[ferrisb]

This time of year sees a massive spike in fear of missing out syndrome - I believe the kids refer to it as fomo......

This time of year scares me.

I'm fomophobic.