Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVI - 'Loopy' Season in full swing

[Blue By Blood]

But one was JHF (pick#1), should be able to wrangle it. Luko was also pick# 2 (or 3). Approved.

Yeah maybe.. still at the AFL’s discretion though so until it’s accepted it’s up in the air.

 

[Graffy4242]

Trainor and Hotton if they are there.

Trainor is awesome. Plays at my boy's school. Has some real mongrel about him. Would be rapt if we got him.

 

[HarryFlashman]

What did Mr Fiorini say?

He’s still on the phone - it’s never a short conversation

 

[BlueJet]

Do the Pies need to offload $ to accommodate Perryman….in short…Lachie Schulz…would fit a need for us…and be controversial enough to keep it under wraps (in case it doesn’t happen)?

Doubtful.
Given the amount of big salaries on the books, a couple more on the way, that we're currently moving on senior players & looking to go hard at the draft to fill holes (taking on rookie scale contracts). It would be a surprise if we're in a position to look after other teams cap issues for them.

 

[Koutz]

If Houston is worth 2 first round picks, what is Oliver and Bailey worth???

 

[bigblueboy]

Who would have thought Caleb Daniel

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Caleb Daniel

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28

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171cm

Wt

72kg

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M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

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21.3

5star

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11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

19.5

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

CL

1.0

3star

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16.4

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.2

2star

would be on $700k a year? Good money if you can get it.

 

[Kruezing]

If Houston is worth 2 first round picks, what is Oliver and Bailey worth???

2nd rounders … because you know … Geelong

 

[Beyond Blue]

Trainor is awesome. Plays at my boy's school. Has some real mongrel about him. Would be rapt if we got him.

How serious are the concussion concerns? He seems like a perfect fit for us otherwise.

 

[BlueJet]

If Houston is worth 2 first round picks, what is Oliver and Bailey worth???

Both are at their lowest value.
Houston arguably at his highest.
Go back a few years & you'd be looking at paying a premium for Oliver..

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

This just reaffirms he is going nowhere for me.

They'll huff and puff then fold at the 11th hour....

 

[Koutz]

2nd rounders … because you know … Geelong

Not sure how they get all these deals done. Something is not quite right at Geelong!!!

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

They need to start getting games into Sinn who they rate extremely highly. They also have Bergman, Farrell, Burgoyne, Evans.. they’re loaded for half backs. Losing him wouldn’t be the end of the world for them. He’s said all the right things in the media (aka I’m happy to stay) because he doesn’t want to burn bridges but from what I’ve heard his partner is desperate to get to Vic so he will be pushing it hard behind the scenes along with his manager.

These things always start out with a team asking for overs and the other team offering unders and it meets in the middle. Nearly always. If they hold him then so be it, it’s also not the end of the world for us as we have lots of other areas to address.

yep.

 

[JJBagger]

They'll huff and puff then fold at the 11th hour....

That’s what I can see. We’ll find a way to get potentially 2 extra first round picks in at the draft. Port will either not trade him, or fold for a late first round pick. They don’t have much leverage in this deal, as they have no real takers otherwise for what they want

 

[Its an amigo!]

If Houston is worth 2 first round picks, what is Oliver and Bailey worth???

Not to mention that Port effectively got JHF plus Rioli in a trade for 2 first round picks plus a couple of fourth rounders. How can Houston be worth the same as JHF and Rioli?

Just realised that Port have no picks for Luko at all. No wonder they want our picks.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Both are at their lowest value.
Houston arguably at his highest.
Go back a few years & you'd be looking at paying a premium for Oliver..

And you are taking on Oliver's long term contract which is supposedly over $1 mill per year.

 

[BlueJet]

Not to mention that Port effectively got JHF plus Rioli in a trade for 2 first round picks plus a couple of fourth rounders. How can Houston be worth the same as JHF and Rioli?

Just realised that Port have no picks for Luko at all. No wonder they want our picks.

JHF was coming off his first year & his value was in being the former pick 1. Rioli was coming off his drug issue & is a solid, not spectacular player.

Houston has achieved a lot more than either as a 2x All Aus. Using the Saad deal (8 + some later swaps) as a benchmark, it isn't a crazy request IMO.
That said, I feel we'll have far more pressing needs in both the short & long term so I'm happy to allocate the assets elsewhere.

 

[BlueJet]

And you are taking on Oliver's long term contract which is supposedly over $1 mill per year.

Are you though?
I suspect that is part of the deal that Melbourne takes a slight hit to move on from him.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Are you though?
I suspect that is part of the deal that Melbourne takes a slight hit to move on from him.

The deal is the deal. You get a better draft pick if you keep some of the salary on your books.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

JHF was coming off his first year & his value was in being the former pick 1. Rioli was coming off his drug issue & is a solid, not spectacular player.

Houston has achieved a lot more than either as a 2x All Aus. Using the Saad deal (8 + some later swaps) as a benchmark, it isn't a crazy request IMO.
That said, I feel we'll have far more pressing needs in both the short & long term so I'm happy to allocate the assets elsewhere.

That's way wrong.

JHF still touted as the next great thing (not sure why)...

Rioli is their best forward by some margin (though Georgiadis not far off) - shut Junior down, you beat them.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

 

[BIuebagger]

Let him go to North if the price is big. Dont blink Austin.

 

[Aphrodite]

Apparently Houston has said no to North.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Apparently Houston has said no to North.

Im over the whole situation, Port asking for way too much

 

[BlueJet]

Apparently Houston has said no to North.

Where's this confirmed, please?

 

[Aphrodite]

Im over the whole situation, Port asking for way too much

They can keep him.