Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVI - 'Loopy' Season in full swing

[CoachB]

Well you’ve been saying we need one. Let’s see how you go

Hawthorn showed how. You identify them 12 months or more out, you commence a dialogue with his manager, you create the space in the cap by moving players on or trading out and then you put an offer on the table. Then you draft one every 2 or 3 years to build a pipeline. Barrass has been an obvious target, but the Hawks also went insurance with Battle, you see how hard they are to score against next season and BTW. in 2024, Hawthorn 276 goals against, Carlton 299 goals against, they have improved their personnel going into 2025 giving them a theoretical advantage.

Previous season Port improvised by chasing best available.

When you are in or nearing the window you can't go into a season with known holes on your list. Shuffle the deck and make things happen. Or follow your approach bury your head in the sand.

 

[The Bighouse]

Big news tomorrow at the club...................CFC will announce GW new CEO with BC to stay on to handover in 2025..................then GW to take over from 2026...........


#Bluemour

Good work, KK!

 

[branedotorg]

2020 Aph, wasn’t implying he was delisted this season.

Lifetime free agent, makes sense to trade now than lose him for nothing after another year of plugging holes in the team

 

[GT619]

Wright to officially be announced as CEO according to Sam Edmund. That Bluemour was completely spot on

 

[T2B_]

He’s a big lad, look at the quads on him

I reckon he does have trouble covering the ground for the full four quarters, more of an anaerobic beast with short explosive efforts

Very, very good in one on one marking contests, appears to be way stronger than his opponents around the same height and weight - so probably just not really built to run 14km at a reasonable intensity

Yeah that's probably a good explanation

 

[TENACIOUS]

This would work for everyone bar Collingwood (which makes it even better):

Carlton: Houston & Pick 29 (Suns)
Collingwood: Pick 34 (Carlton) (Carlton) & F3 (Port)
Port: Lukosius, Richards & Pick 13 (Suns)
Suns: Nobel, Owies, F1 (Carlton) & F1 (Port)

 

[bmaurizio]

Good work, KK!

Hopefully GW has a long hard look at Austin & Lloyd too.They’re certainly in need of astute advice and some support. An important addition and transition for the club, immense expertise in football operations and playing list management.
He’s done it all, great acquisition, last piece to be added under Cook’s guidance as CEO.

 

[Accidental genius]

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Hawthorn showed how. You identify them 12 months or more out, you commence a dialogue with his manager, you create the space in the cap by moving players on or trading out and then you put an offer on the table. Then you draft one every 2 or 3 years to build a pipeline. Barrass has been an obvious target, but the Hawks also went insurance with Battle, you see how hard they are to score against next season and BTW. in 2024, Hawthorn 276 goals against, Carlton 299 goals against, they have improved their personnel going into 2025 giving them a theoretical advantage.

Previous season Port improvised by chasing best available.

When you are in or nearing the window you can't go into a season with known holes on your list. Shuffle the deck and make things happen. Or follow your approach bury your head in the sand.

Yeah but this year. What moves are you making and who are you bringing in? You commented on my idea of trading picks and asked about a key back.

What are you wanting to have happen from this point on with what we currently have?

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Hawthorn showed how. You identify them 12 months or more out, you commence a dialogue with his manager, you create the space in the cap by moving players on or trading out and then you put an offer on the table. Then you draft one every 2 or 3 years to build a pipeline. Barrass has been an obvious target, but the Hawks also went insurance with Battle, you see how hard they are to score against next season and BTW. in 2024, Hawthorn 276 goals against, Carlton 299 goals against, they have improved their personnel going into 2025 giving them a theoretical advantage.

Previous season Port improvised by chasing best available.

When you are in or nearing the window you can't go into a season with known holes on your list. Shuffle the deck and make things happen. Or follow your approach bury your head in the sand.

How do you know we haven't done this with SDK, Leek and Balta all coming ooc next year? Need to work with what's available.

Port "improvised"? By what, bringing in potatoes like Zerk-Thatcher and Esava?

We have bigger holes to plug than a second KPD... midfield and small forwards. Like I mentioned previously, if a second KPD was our biggest worry why were we down 60-0 despite Young doing a good job?

 

[BringFevBack2021]

I know this Owies wage has been reported but do we reckon it’s actually true?

I mean, I was staggered we’d not offered him a contract but that would make sense as to why

What’s a 30 goal small forward worth who is kind of a liability outside forward 50 worth? $500k?

 

[ctwenty1]

I know this Owies wage has been reported but do we reckon it’s actually true?

I mean, I was staggered we’d not offered him a contract but that would make sense as to why

What’s a 30 goal small forward worth who is kind of a liability outside forward 50 worth? $500k?

Question I have is what is the relationship like between he and the club? If we offer him what he is worth, would he still be happy to play with us? I havent heard anything to suggest the relationship has broken down to such an extent, although I would imagine he would be annoyed we havent put a contract to him yet

 

[Blue__Balls]

I know this Owies wage has been reported but do we reckon it’s actually true?

I mean, I was staggered we’d not offered him a contract but that would make sense as to why

What’s a 30 goal small forward worth who is kind of a liability outside forward 50 worth? $500k?

Given the source is "rival clubs believe", I'd say it's potentially a load of shit.

 

[Stamos]

I know this Owies wage has been reported but do we reckon it’s actually true?

I mean, I was staggered we’d not offered him a contract but that would make sense as to why

What’s a 30 goal small forward worth who is kind of a liability outside forward 50 worth? $500k?

Bain (Owies' manager) has rubbished the reports, which were frankly unbelievable. It's the Hun making it up.

Unfortunately it's not sounding like we're going to get much for him.

 

[marcmurphy3]

I know this Owies wage has been reported but do we reckon it’s actually true?

I mean, I was staggered we’d not offered him a contract but that would make sense as to why

What’s a 30 goal small forward worth who is kind of a liability outside forward 50 worth? $500k?

His manager has confirmed its rubbish.

I suspect what's happened is we delayed negotiations with him because we knew he'd be entitled to decent pay, but didn't yet know how much we could offer and he was down the priority list.

In contrast guys like Durdin would have been willing to sign on for mimum wage so we were happy to lock that in.

Now it's come to the end of the year and list spots are tighter then expected so he might be forced out.

So it's not that we rate him below some of the others we have signed. It's just that we have gone early signing alot of our fringe players and now don't have the list spots.

 

[marcmurphy3]

His manager has confirmed its rubbish.

I suspect what's happened is we delayed negotiations with him because we knew he'd be entitled to decent pay, but didn't yet know how much we could offer and he was down the priority list.

In contrast guys like Durdin would have been willing to sign on for mimum wage so we were happy to lock that in.

Now it's come to the end of the year and list spots are tighter then expected so he might be forced out.

So it's not that we rate him below some of the others we have signed. It's just that we have gone early signing alot of our fringe players and now don't have the list spots.

I hope we learn from this. We signed Cottrell for 3 years in March, Durdin and Boyd for 2 years in May, Fog for 2 years in June.

I know we probably got them all for bottom dollar but we do limit ourselves by re-signing our fringe players so early and for multi year deals.

Not saying they didn't deserve contracts (though I would delist Durdin before Owies and Carroll) just that the rush to do it carries risk.

No other club would offer Cotts 3 years. Hes the type of player that should be on a 1-2 year contract. Durdin wouldn't be on a list in 2025 if he hadn't signed that deal. Boyd worth 1 year. Fog I'm happy with 2 but even he could be 1.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Monday.

Smoko….

 

[GoBlues!]

Combination of SoS/Kemp, Durdin/Motlop, Elijah, Williams/Doc as the main players.
Midfield with Walsh and Cerra fitter will also help.
Scoreboard won't be the issue.

Love your optimism Surrey.

Reality is we’ve scored over 2000 points in a season only 3 times in the past 13 years - this year (2151 pts), in 2013 (2125 pts) and 2012 (2079 pts).

A lot of things need to go right (fitness, form, reliability) for the above mentioned players to consistently hit the scoreboard. Here’s hoping.

 

[Banga19]

We have interest in Freo's pick 11 in the event we can't get GC's pick 13. Freo will be open to trading it only if Bolton deal falls through, which will happen late if it happens at all. - Cal Twomey

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

 

[GT619]

We have interest in Freo's pick 11 in the event we can't get GC's pick 13. Freo will be open to trading it only if Bolton deal falls through, which will happen late if it happens at all. - Cal Twomey

we must really want someone high to chase 11 if possible

 

[Bagger24]

Luko is worth more than Carlton F2 and Noble I reckon lad..

I would say nobles value is around 25ish based on the contract length and he is not OOC. adding a pick 30ish values him at end of first round pick-that’s lukos value

 

[Juddrockz]

we must really want someone high to chase 11 if possible

Pies get pick 13 from GC,we nab 11 off Freo,send 12 plus to Port for Dan Houston? Haha

 

[Just Kreuzing]

we must really want someone high to chase 11 if possible

Houston

 

[bluesDeluxe]

We have interest in Freo's pick 11 in the event we can't get GC's pick 13. Freo will be open to trading it only if Bolton deal falls through, which will happen late if it happens at all. - Cal Twomey

Smart by freo, putting the heat on tigers