Bluemour 'Silly Season' Edition XXXIV

[BringFevBack2021]

Social media posts from players - Setters is always in the groups.....

Yeah - not sure! Just repeating what I was told.

 

[macky99]

It seems that this is a strange draft though, with very different evaluations of the players by the recruiters, and thought to be pretty even from the mid first round to the mid second.
You might still be able to get the player you like, and another one.

Another option might be to use either F1 or F2 to get a player we want somewhere between our 2 current picks. 2023 picks seem to hold more value than 2022 ones.

Yes l think you are correct, but l feel the quality is in those 1st 6-10 hence why both Sydney & Carlton have openly said they are keen to move up positions, North & GWS and probably Gold Coast are in a good spot to capitalise on this, may not even know until draft night.

 

[Stamos]

Yes l think you are correct, but l feel the quality is in those 1st 6-10 hence why both Sydney & Carlton have openly said they are keen to move up positions, North & GWS and probably Gold Coast are in a good spot to capitalise on this, may not even know until draft night.

There even seems to be quite a bit of variety of who's considered in those 6-10 spots.

 

[Blue__Balls]

We don’t have enough young guns 18-22. We need to strengthen the post McKay weitering Curnow age bracket

Kinda sorta.

Harry and Charlie are signed up til the end of 2029. Weitering til the end of 2025, and you know he's going to be a priority (and doesn't strike me as the type to chase a huge contract elsewhere). Charlie is the oldest, 26yo early next year, the others two aren't even 25yo yet.

You're not going to have a gun KPP sitting happily in the reserves for 6-8 years waiting for these guys to retire.

We don't need to bring in a massive influx of guys in a single year, we just need to get into a good rhythm of identifying and then developing quality players who can be gradually introduced to the side within a couple of years of being drafted. It's about maintaining a good spread across the list now.

 

[KJP7]

Yeah - not sure! Just repeating what I was told.

He's pretty close with Doch and Walshy.

But I think the decision was more around getting players who use the ball better, he has a tendency to throw it on the boot long more often than not.

Great problem for the club to have to be getting rid of talented players such a Stock & Setters, shows how far we've come.

Would also recommend the Dyl & Friends podcast with H, he gives great insight into the environment he walked into versus now.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

He's pretty close with Doch and Walshy.

But I think the decision was more around getting players who use the ball better, he has a tendency to throw it on the boot long more often than not.

Great problem for the club to have to be getting rid of talented players such a Stock & Setters, shows how far we've come.

Would also recommend the Dyl & Friends podcast with H, he gives great insight into the environment he walked into versus now.

Listened to that this morning!

How good does H talk? I've always found the short media appearances he does to be pretty professional, certainly seems like an intelligent guy. Of all the BackChat and Dyl & Friends guests I've heard talk, I've found him to be the 2nd most intelligent - 2nd only to Chris Judd.

Really, really respect H.

 

[KJP7]

Listened to that this morning!

How good does H talk? I've always found the short media appearances he does to be pretty professional, certainly seems like an intelligent guy. Of all the BackChat and Dyl & Friends guests I've heard talk, I've found him to be the 2nd most intelligent - 2nd only to Chris Judd.

Really, really respect H.

It was bloody good! He's definitely on par with the likes of Weits with how articulately he speaks and is a genuine leader.

Not sure I'd want to be at a dinner table with H & Ben though.

Also reassuring to hear how much of a leader Voss is and how motivating he is which is what this group has been crying out for.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

It was bloody good! He's definitely on par with the likes of Weits with how articulately he speaks and is a genuine leader.

Not sure I'd want to be at a dinner table with H & Ben though.

Also reassuring to hear how much of a leader Voss is and how motivating he is which is what this group has been crying out for.

Haha! Neither! Definitely an ep I'd recommend every Carlton fan check out.

 

[DangerousD]

Heard from a Carlton AFLW Player that Setters never really gelled with the group, was a bit of an outsider at the Blues. Had a couple good mates, but wasn't fully buying into our culture. Might explain another reason to move him on. She said he was a really nice guy, but just not super involved within the inner circle as far as she could tell.

Such an odd thing to say, because a player isn’t chummy with everyone as a reason to move him on. I’m not sure if you played much sport, I’ll assume you have, but it’s rare to be great mates with everyone.

Id be seriously concerned with our club, if anyone was moved on because they weren’t super involved within the inner circle.

 

[DangerousD]

We don't need to bring in a massive influx of guys in a single year, we just need to get into a good rhythm of identifying and then developing quality players who can be gradually introduced to the side within a couple of years of being drafted. It's about maintaining a good spread across the list now.

Im not sure what the league average is but we are roughly getting a good player 25% of every draft pick, give or take a few, it’s super risky only taking 3 or less new players each year in my opinion, on averages, two of those 3 won’t make it.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Such an odd thing to say, because a player isn’t chummy with everyone as a reason to move him on. I’m not sure if you played much sport, I’ll assume you have, but it’s rare to be great mates with everyone.

Id be seriously concerned with our club, if anyone was moved on because they weren’t super involved within the inner circle.

Yeah, that much is true - you're right. When I've played, I might be close with a good 10 or so of the entire 40-60 blokes at the club. Harry actually speaks to this point in the poddy I linked above too.

I'm probably just extrapolating a little bit too much from what she said. Reading too far into it maybe - just thought it was interesting that she mentioned that.

 

[Blue since 72]

Heard from a Carlton AFLW Player that Setters never really gelled with the group, was a bit of an outsider at the Blues. Had a couple good mates, but wasn't fully buying into our culture. Might explain another reason to move him on. She said he was a really nice guy, but just not super involved within the inner circle as far as she could tell.

I don't necessarily have a problem with that, not everyone is outgoing and able to form lots of friendships etc. As long as he bought into Vossy's vision and behaviours the rest shouldn't have been an issue, after all you're supposed to be allowed to be your authentic self these days.

He was at least partially disengaged because the club wasn't playing him in his preferred position and that's ok, others were preferred ahead of him.

Good luck to him and he should have plenty of opportunity to show what's he's capable of.

 

[jooce8891]

Heard from a Carlton AFLW Player that Setters never really gelled with the group, was a bit of an outsider at the Blues. Had a couple good mates, but wasn't fully buying into our culture. Might explain another reason to move him on. She said he was a really nice guy, but just not super involved within the inner circle as far as she could tell.

not sure how much i buy that, he's on a trip with dow fish and walshy + others im guessing. I'd believe that if she was thinking about stock.

 

[CJMB]

The stats indicate otherwise with the probability of obtaining a quality player in the 1st 10-12 selections VS 13-25 is much higher, keeping our 1st selection makes more sense, if we drop back most of the players on our shortlist are likely to be gone, we should be able to obtain a good player at 10 and look more on a needs basis at 29.

I’m advocating to keep 10, probably keep 29 and see if we can get our last pick up into the back end of the 2nd, or even early 3rd range.

The last three national draft picks we’ve had were 2nd rounds - Motlop 27, Durdin 37, Carroll 41 - and if our 2nd and 3rd picks this year are in that range I think we can do alright without excessive spending of draft capital across the 22 & 23 drafts.

 

[Stamos]

I’m advocating to keep 10, probably keep 29 and see if we can get our last pick up into the back end of the 2nd, or even early 3rd range.

The last three national draft picks we’ve had were 2nd rounds - Motlop 27, Durdin 37, Carroll 41 - and if our 2nd and 3rd picks this year are in that range I think we can do alright without excessive spending of draft capital across the 22 & 23 drafts.

#49 will come in a bit after the Ashcroft and Fletcher bids.

 

[RPCB]

Haha! Neither! Definitely an ep I'd recommend every Carlton fan check out.

An episode I wouldn’t recommend to a police officer though. Holy shit.

Interesting that there is confirmation of us wanting to draft Ben but Norf got in there first. I can definitely see our club making a play for Ben next year.

 

[TENACIOUS]

We don’t have enough young guns 18-22. We need to strengthen the post McKay weitering Curnow age bracket

Agree Mr Juice…
That’s why you try and get more top draft picks, not bundle them all for one unproven player…

 

[FlowersByIrene]

You're forgetting this is the team that traded Brodie and #19 for a nothing pick last year.. before these salary dumps were even technically allowed.

It will be Bowes and #7 for a nominal pick Rnd 3 or lower.

I was lambasted for saying it would be a nominal pick for Bowes and #7 due to the Salary Cap. Everyone here told me it would be a future or current first round pick that would be required.

Well well well...

 

[FlowersByIrene]

I suspect I'm closer to the mark.

Pick 10 for a good player (salary) and pick 7 is an excellent deal massively in favour of us.

Now, whether is suits our salary structure is another story but these fairytale pick 345 for good player and pick 7 are absurd.

Guess we'll see who's right.

Makes no sense. There would be clubs who would pay a third rounder for Bowes irrespective of salary. Or a second with GC covering say $200k of it. GC aren't giving away Pick 7 just to convince a club like NM, St Kilda or Essendon to overpay a decent player who walks into their starting side.

Third Rounder for Bowes + #7 thanks.

 

[RPCB]

What’s the point of GC as a football club? Usually a statement like that, even about a rival, would elicit a negative reaction. But I think most people can agree that GC are just a feeder club that makes crap decision after crap decision.

 

[Keyza]

What’s the point of GC as a football club? Usually a statement like that, even about a rival, would elicit a negative reaction. But I think most people can agree that GC are just a feeder club that makes crap decision after crap decision.

They were gifted 3 years of draft concessions and now they have just handed a decent player and pick 7 to Geelong. What a joke they are.
It is not the first time they have given away players, Jarryd Lyons for example. Jack Martin another.
Crap decision after crap decision and get rewarded for it.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Third Rounder for Bowes + #7 thanks.

Yep - that's an absolute train-wreck of a trade. AFL need to put an end to that sort of shit quick-smart.

 

[katmanblue]

Yep - that's an absolute train-wreck of a trade. AFL need to put an end to that sort of s**t quick-smart.

They just changed the rules to allow for it.

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[I bleed Blue]

They just changed the rules to allow for it.

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Its the gold coast.

They will change whatever rules they have to to help their basket case of a love child club.

 

[rp84]

Third Rounder for Bowes + #7 thanks.

Good call