Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXV - 'Loopy' Season has begun

[TENACIOUS]

Grainger-Barras apparently on the trade table… if the price is right hope we have a look…

Unlike Hawthorn we have the list to be patient with him…

 

[JuddgementDay]

All options are on the table, but really we should not jump the gun until our season is over - and this year it’s not the end of August

Our weakness will be highlighted during the finals. Let’s fill these spots once we are clear on what is of dire need when the crunch comes!

 

[Arr0w]

If it only costs us Fisher and we get draft capital out of it then it's an upgrade like Acres was. If it costs us more then the opposition cost equation changes

Last year we had the room to take on Acres and it only really cost us an area of depth (Setters) in totality.

If this year it costs us Fish and others... Entirely different story

If we focus just on Fisher ( we will lose others) gaining a future pick to use on the Campo boys, while clearing salary, allows us to acquire a FA. It's a win/win for list management

Now, I think Fisher still has value to our side, but if his replacement is more needs focus, then tough calls will need to be made

 

[Wickzki]

Absolutely yes to Smith
Back our own culture to bring him in and shape him up
The exact type of player we need

How do we have the cap space to fit Bailey Smith into our list without gutting our list of depth?

He's not coming for cheap.

 

[jackn]

Have you also heard about the below player we are heavily into? I had to disguise the player in question and come up with a extremely difficult Cryptic clue to avoid a media storm that's all I can give you at the moment. Don't PM me my lips are sealed!!!
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Not vanilla enough.

 

[Arr0w]

Maybe a Bailey Williams as a FA if we are moving on players such as Dow, LOB, Fish etc since you mentioned FA. Wouldn't be too much $s imo and I hear he wants out of the dogs

Have always liked him and would improve our best 22

 

[cookie monster]

How do we have the cap space to fit Bailey Smith into our list without hitting our list of depth?

He's not coming for cheap.

Sell him a dream instead?
Combined pay cuts to clear some space?
In a footballing sense he is just so perfect for us

 

[Arr0w]

I rate Smith highly, but off field not great and 750K is overs at this point in time

Plus, would cost more than 1 first rounder

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Have always liked him and would improve out best 22

Agree.
We don't need superstars anymore. Just good honest workers that buy in. I'm sure Austin has a relationship with him so it just wouldn't surprise me to see him in Navy Blue next year if we have the cap space

 

[Revenant1965]

I rate Smith highly, but off field not great and 750K is overs at this point in time

Plus, would cost more than 1 first rounder

Plus, he needs a decent (Cez) haircut...

 

[beowulf]

Grainger-Barras apparently on the trade table… if the price is right hope we have a look…

Unlike Hawthorn we have the list to be patient with him…

I'd look at the guy. He has good hands: could be worth investing in.

 

[DangerousD]

Reckon he could comfortably play an outside mid/HFF role...

Silky smooth player.

Hawks have him all but sewn down I gather...

Henry has scored 2 goals in the last 2 seasons, i couldn’t believe it when i saw it.

2 Goals.

 

[DangerousD]

Norf have #39 but I reckon Future 3rd is probably where it will End up

In a year where we dont have a second or third, i dont see us wanting future picks

 

[Wickzki]

I rate Smith highly, but off field not great and 750K is overs at this point in time

Plus, would cost more than 1 first rounder

Wasn't it Smith you rated ahead of Walsh in his draft year?

 

[Arr0w]

Wasn't it Smith you rated ahead of Walsh in his draft year?

Yeap, think he has a point of difference

Unfortunately for most of us, all we see is their football abilities, but no idea as to their make-up and mindset

 

[Wickzki]

Yeap, think he has a point of difference

Unfortunately for most of us, all we see is their football abilities, but no idea as to their make-up and mindset

Even with how good Sam played early doors, Bailey was a bloody ripper early too. It wasn't a bad call by you at the time.

Think half of his issues could be better managed at a different club. Needs to get away from certain influences at the Dogs like another player who became troubled did.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Forget about Smith. Gun player when he's up and running, but will cost way too much and he's an idiot off field.

 

[Forty3]

If we focus just on Fisher ( we will lose others) gaining a future pick to use on the Campo boys, while clearing salary, allows us to acquire a FA. It's a win/win for list management

Now, I think Fisher still has value to our side, but if his replacement is more needs focus, then tough calls will need to be made

It’s not always as simple an equation as what people think.

List management and TPP management is a multi year thing.
Losing player A (in this case Fisher) doesn’t mean we have that cap space next year for a FA acquisition.
Players contracts are almost always weighted year on year, very rarely lineal. So it could very likely be needing to lose a player or two around Fishers coin, knowing that we are replacing them with draft picks that are on a 2 year locked base contract. With the knowledge that the money saved is already assigned to players we already have on our list.

 

[JustOneTime]

It’s not always as simple an equation as what people think.

List management and TPP management is a multi year thing.
Losing player A (in this case Fisher) doesn’t mean we have that cap space next year for a FA acquisition.
Players contracts are almost always weighted year on year, very rarely lineal. So it could very likely be needing to lose a player or two around Fishers coin, knowing that we are replacing them with draft picks that are on a 2 year locked base contract. With the knowledge that the money saved is already assigned to players we already have on our list.

That really sucks balls then. I can only 'imagine' that we have already spent our future free cash in promises to current players already. It would explain why there is no noise about Ben Mckay when we only have 1 KPDer of note. We have Kemp/Marchy/Mcgovern trying to be KPDers.

 

[KohPhi]

Have you also heard about the below player we are heavily into? I had to disguise the player in question and come up with a extremely difficult Cryptic clue to avoid a media storm that's all I can give you at the moment. Don't PM me my lips are sealed!!!
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[ferrisb]

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Scott Temp Edson Arantes do Nascimento???

 

[Michael Jezz]

Not sure about the anti-Carlton agenda, but I agree with the rest. You would imagine that he's not on a huge contract, so that'll be absorbed by the 5 years that Norf are offering. And if they're prepared to offer him a 5 year contract, make them cough up something half decent. Somewhere around pick 30 you would hope is in the ballpark.

Having said all that crap, it may also be possible that we're targeting someone over the trade period where we'd need to clear salary cap space and a list spot to make it happen....so the main priority is to get him off the books.

Our need to clear salsry cap space, is exclusive of Fisher's trade value 25-30 and equal to North's need for an attacking left footed flanker

 

[David Sylvian]

Just listened to Sam he was asked to comment on Hayden Crozier

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Hayden Crozier

Age

30

Ht

187cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

4.6

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.8

4star

MG

322.8

4star

D

15.4

4star

K

11.3

4star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.9

4star

MG

322.8

5star

D

10.4

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.6

4star

to us. Nearly fell off my chair.

 

[RPCB]

Perfect club for him. His character will thrive at *.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Grainger-Barras apparently on the trade table… if the price is right hope we have a look…

Unlike Hawthorn we have the list to be patient with him…

A young KPD is about the only glaring vacancy in our list.(unless Young has a form reversal)
Another developing Jack Martin clone would be nice, but not a desperate need.
Last year an Acres type was an obvious need, next year we need to squeeze in Binns and Cow, don't see a pricey free agent in Navy blue soon.