List Mgmt. Brady Rawlings | Head of Football Talent (Recruitment, LM & TPP)

Remove this Banner Ad

yep they kept trying to get rid of our f1 for unders

First they tried getting Houston for f1 thankfully at the time that failed

But then it made them more desperate for Daniel to the point where instead of offering a f2 or walking away they piss away a pick 25

Only to realise we need that pick for a KPP so they trade our f1 for it

Amateur hour
 
Daniltchenko You Beauty said:
This is an entire club decision you peanuts. Anyone who thinks Clarko and Viney aren’t pulling the strings hasn’t got a ****ing clue.
Click to expand...
No Shit Sherlock. But make no mistake that this Ironstein has been front and centre with the last 5 years of moronic decisions made by our Football Club in regards to recruitment, trading and list management. :stern look
 

Log in to remove this ad.

Zondor said:
No Shit Sherlock. But make no mistake that this Ironstein has been front and centre with the last 5 years of moronic decisions made by our Football Club in regards to recruitment, trading and list management. :stern look
Click to expand...

So it’s obvious it’s a whole club decision but Ironstein has been front and centre?

Righto.
 
bennymate said:
We should've sacked him when we had the chance and now he lays this shit on us, amazing.
Click to expand...
Yes you’re right but when Rawlings MATE Geoff Walsh was doing the review there was no way he was going nowhere.
Got to remember mates don’t get rid of mates and Rawlings knows this and he knows his protected and will continue to do his job with the knowledge his got his job as long as long as he wants it.
 
Daniltchenko You Beauty said:
So it’s obvious it’s a whole club decision but Ironstein has been front and centre?

Righto.
Click to expand...
LOL. I'll give you "Righto". Even though the decisions made over the Rawling years have all been "whole club", some like Rawling, have had a greater say / influence than others. Clearly someone like Redfoo hasn't been front and centre pushing for some of the moronic trades and list decisions made. Capiche? :stern look
 
Daniltchenko You Beauty said:
This is an entire club decision you peanuts. Anyone who thinks Clarko and Viney aren’t pulling the strings hasn’t got a ****ing clue.
Click to expand...
It really isn't. Doesn't matter who sticks their nose in or okays it, this was a list management decision, or rather a series of them. The list manager takes responsibility for that.

Clarko is responsible for the crap game plan. You can't blame Brady for Northball.
Brady is responsible for the ridiculous trading decisions. Stop trying to hide him in a bureaucracy.
 
perplexed said:
It really isn't. Doesn't matter who sticks their nose in or okays it, this was a list management decision, or rather a series of them. The list manager takes responsibility for that.

Clarko is responsible for the crap game plan. You can't blame Brady for Northball.
Brady is responsible for the ridiculous trading decisions. Stop trying to hide him in a bureaucracy.
Click to expand...
Good moves (not many) - Rawlings.

Poor moves (many) - Club wide decision.
 
The Nostradamus said:
can someone explain why we asked for a f2 instead of 28? i can only hope we asked but got told no because tigers have other plans for 28 otherwise stupidity if that was our choice

to give us 27 and 28 we could have got both whitlocks or M whitlock plus shanahan tomorrow

tigers then get our f1 and get to keep their f2 to allow them 3 picks in the first 2 rounds next year to spread their picks

would've been a win win result instead of including f2 over 28
Click to expand...
Very sensible suggestion. Fans could have got behind that decision.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

The Nostradamus said:
can someone explain why we asked for a f2 instead of 28? i can only hope we asked but got told no because tigers have other plans for 28 otherwise stupidity if that was our choice

to give us 27 and 28 we could have got both whitlocks or M whitlock plus shanahan tomorrow

tigers then get our f1 and get to keep their f2 to allow them 3 picks in the first 2 rounds next year to spread their picks

would've been a win win result instead of including f2 over 28
Click to expand...
Can we still trade picks? Who cares about the 2025 draft, we gotta live for the now baby!

I feel like we should be able to trade Richmond's f2 for a pick in the 30s and a f3/f4?

It would be great to get another tall, possibly the brother.
 
perplexed said:
You wonder, if the list manager isn't responsible for list management decisions and can't be held accountable for them: What is he being paid to do? And why do we continue to employ him?
Click to expand...
It’s not as if he’s seven levels of management away from who’s making the calls and could conceivably only be made aware of what his underlings are doing at the last second.

A probable top 6 selection for 19 and 27 is a daft decision to put it kindly.
 
perplexed said:
It really isn't. Doesn't matter who sticks their nose in or okays it, this was a list management decision, or rather a series of them. The list manager takes responsibility for that.

Clarko is responsible for the crap game plan. You can't blame Brady for Northball.
Brady is responsible for the ridiculous trading decisions. Stop trying to hide him in a bureaucracy.
Click to expand...
Sorry but we all know it is Redfoo's fault. Rawling is running at 100%. Can't fault the guy. The last 5 years highlights this. :stern look
 
The Nostradamus said:
yep they kept trying to get rid of our f1 for unders

First they tried getting Houston for f1 thankfully at the time that failed

But then it made them more desperate for Daniel to the point where instead of offering a f2 or walking away they piss away a pick 25

Only to realise we need that pick for a KPP so they trade our f1 for it

Amateur hour
Click to expand...
So they trade our F1 pick, get one of Whitlock twin, and get tigers F2 back. So that F2 will probably be pick 19, and assuming we improve next year, might mean we only lost 10spots in draft. Now to Whitlock - one of the better KKPs in this years draft, highly rated, big room for development. Can play forward and back, kicked more goals and took more marks than his twin.
So I’m all in for this trade. Get one of the best KKPs now vs waiting till next year and we have no idea who we could have got next year.

Seriously the melts and bedwetters over this is laughable. Cant believe the low IQ of some who post on this website.
 
GDUB07 said:
So they trade our F1 pick, get one of Whitlock twin, and get tigers F2 back. So that F2 will probably be pick 19, and assuming we improve next year, might mean we only lost 10spots in draft. Now to Whitlock - one of the better KKPs in this years draft, highly rated, big room for development. Can play forward and back, kicked more goals and took more marks than his twin.
So I’m all in for this trade. Get one of the best KKPs now vs waiting till next year and we have no idea who we could have got next year.

Seriously the melts and bedwetters over this is laughable. Cant believe the low IQ of some who post on this website.
Click to expand...
This year the first pick in the second round will be 28. Next year it will be similar or possibly later - not 19.

I expect us to improve significantly next year but we still have a significant portion of our list that needs cleaning out. Here are our out of contract players for next year. LDU, Goater, Corr, Tucker, Ford, Bergman, Phillips, CCJ, Konstanty, Harvey + Rookies - K Dawson, Teakle, Pink, RHJ, Maley, Payne. Fair to say that we will be replacing quite a few, and we now only have two picks, likely to be in the thirties, to do it.
 
TennisPlayerAndy said:
It’s not as if he’s seven levels of management away from who’s making the calls and could conceivably only be made aware of what his underlings are doing at the last second.

A probable top 6 selection for 19 and 27 is a daft decision to put it kindly.
Click to expand...
19? It will be > 20.
 
As a long-time Saints sufferer, I feel your pain. We've had plenty of weak administrators who generally got less than they could have from a deal.
Rawlings cannot survive these trades. Everyone could see you paid overs for Caleb Daniel, who doesn't even fit a need, and that trade looks even worse now.
Hopefully for your sake you get a better recruitment team in soon.
 
Well, I feel he's made 4-5 really poor list management decisions in a row. History says it generally sets clubs back massively if that occurs. The only one here who can bail him out at this point is Will Thursfield.

History says he wont be here next trade period.

I posted back in July I thought we were 2-3 well placed decisions from creating a dynasty style list the envy of the competition.

Not only haven't we achieved that, I feel like we have somehow regressed (amazingly, almost impossibly...) from that posisiton.

The Board have a hell of a lot to answer for also, as some of these decisions require board approval. As they extend beyond employment terms.

Bad Decision 1: Not trading any of the PP's for future currency. The requirement was that the package was reviewed if we kept the picks. It didn't mean we had to trade them into that year. The AFL wasn't going to strip a bunch of on traded and jumbled picks 12 months down the track. I have no issue with who we selected last year, I have issued with who we traded for and what we paid (again...). We should have banked some picks into 2024, even if they were bundles of late 2nd's.

Bad Decision 2 (the worst): Zuhaars contract. This had the most potential to really ram home our list strength. An opportunity probably even better than the McKay situaiton given we just drafted Duursma and have Curtis/Ford and just traded for Luke Parker who played 60% of his minutes at half forward this season.

Now people can scream "He never would have achieved Band 1", but Josh Battle and Harry Perryman both did and surged into Band 1 during trade week with the lack of FA's. Even with Band 2, we would have secured 1 of the best talls in this draft. Instead we handed one of our most inconsistent senior players a 5 year contract extension on big money.

Richmond were ruthless with their senior and better players. You've just seen the payoff.

If Zurhaar landed Band 1. We landed the Jagga Smith pick, in which we end up with Picks 1,12,14,25 prior to the Daniel trade. It was 100% worth the shot at the stumps. At the absolute worst, we trade Zurhaar for Armstrong/Trainor/Whitlock. A good trade in terms of list balance.

Clarko spent 12 month doing study tours of the NBA, NFL and Premier League. Well he learnt very little off of those clubs. They would have leveraged that situation in an instant.

Bad Decision 3 (Daniel trade): I have no issue with targeting him. However, we simply paid far more than what was ever required. He is 29 years old in July, on a huge contract, in the reserves, he was a 3rd/4th rounder every day of the week. See Jack Macrae.

Not only was the cost bad enough, but exponentially made worse by the availability of a group of players we obviously rate highly that fill list needs at our original pick.

Made into a dumpster fire by the fact, we needed to use a F1 to get back into the pick range we had in the first place if we simply held our ground.

Bad Decision 4 (F1 Trade): Enough has been said, but it would be paying $1.25 at the moment to be one of the top quoted "worst trades" of the decade in 2035 and we are 24hrs divorced from it. Whitlock will need to become an AA and we will need to borderline make finals for Brady to escape it.




As I said, we were 1 or two smart decision from walking into a section of trade week with 1,12,14,25,F1.


That didn't need to get taken to the draft, as we saw last night, we could have traded them for multiple R1 picks next year and kept rolling them over to rejuvenate the list, trade for a big name as we rose the ladder etc.


Instead we get Zurhaar for the next 5 seasons, Caleb Daniel on $800k per year, FOS and M Whitlock, F2 for that entire hand above....... I'm speechless they spent 12 months planning and came to that end result.

Instead, I feel like we handed back every bit of overs we got for the McKay compo last night.

Im happy eat humble pie, call me a whiner etc. Come and quote me this time next year. I will be a happy man if that's the case and that's eventuated.
 
Last edited:

Remove this Banner Ad

List Mgmt. Brady Rawlings | Head of Football Talent (Recruitment, LM & TPP)

Similar threads

hilly
Bye bye Rawling
2
Replies
42
Views
2K
Sphynx
S
giantroo
List Mgmt. Will Thursfield - National Recruiting & Retention Manager
2
Replies
38
Views
2K
TennisPlayerAndy
TennisPlayerAndy
Hojuman
Autopsy v the rubber head bands
10 11 12 13 14
Replies
346
Views
10K
FlyHigh18
FlyHigh18
K
Recruits from other clubs
2
Replies
25
Views
1K
WesternRoo
W
BoomerRoo
Screw You Rawlings.....
Replies
19
Views
2K
Zondor
Z
kangafruity
When was the last time we recruited a DECENT reject? Who is to blame?
2
Replies
36
Views
1K
scottywiper
scottywiper
giantroo
Coach Michael Barlow - Head of Development. 2024 Development coach of the year!
4 5 6 7 8
Replies
193
Views
16K
DuckYeah
DuckYeah

Remove this Banner Ad

Back
Top