Brendan Fevola Trade Thread

[spartan-magpie]

Re: Fev trade

dont wish such a thing we will hear about it for years

Basically if we go for fev and then get cold feet ill spew, we didnt want lockett because of off field he would have won us a flag along with sav but no uncle richo says no

Same happens again, he is being offered to us FFS ill crack it. This is our chance to be ready in 2010 right here in front us. We wills till have a good side in 2012 but get Fev and we will HAVE A GOOD SIDE CAPABLE OF A FLAG RIGHT NOW RIGHT ****EN NOW!!!

isnt that what we want?

do you honestly think fev will make us a 5% better team?? and take into consideration the opportunity cost of getting fev... yes we will have a gun full forward for all of 2 to maybe 3 seasons...


his salary could stop us picking up a gun midfeider or ruckmanin the off season.. both imo are more important in our quest for the cup - something we are all dying for..

 

[BlueTouchPaper]

Re: Fev trade

well, i hope all the prospective suitors for fevolas services offer you jack shit... the guys has been a GOOD full forward in hopeless team for 10 years...

Are you deranged? Has been the best FF behind Lloyd in his playing time. Who else would you put up there in that time?

 

[unplugged]

Re: Fev trade

At the end of the day, we're eventually going to have to think short term list-management if we're going to have a genuine crack at winning the flag. We can't just keep thinking, at the end of every single year, about players that will be ripe in 4-5 years time.

Collingwood to win the Premiership in 2010. Impossible is nothing.

 

[spartan-magpie]

Re: Fev trade

Are you deranged? Has been the best FF behind Lloyd in his playing time. Who else would you put up there in that time?

575 goals in 11 seasons... j.brown. m.richardson, d,bradshaw, q,lynch, b.hall, f.gherig, d.bradshaw...

 

[Old Spice]

Re: Fev trade

do you honestly think fev will make us a 5% better team?? and take into consideration the opportunity cost of getting fev... yes we will have a gun full forward for all of 2 to maybe 3 seasons...


his salary could stop us picking up a gun midfeider or ruckmanin the off season.. both imo are more important in our quest for the cup - something we are all dying for..

You jest, surely. Travis vacated the forward 50 this year leaving Jack on his lonesome, Fev rarely leaves there and I don't mind the idea of two stay at home forwards with Dick or Thomas around them. That's an exponential improvement and will straighten our forward entries right out.

Fev would get a contract with clauses about behaviour, If he screws up, he's out and thus ends our financial obligations, if not, he will be kicking a bucketload and making us a genuine contendor. In any case, as our young players come on and need more $, Fev will be on the way out.

I also hope we might try and nab a Ball or Tuck to bolster the midfield. Add a Charman... Hang on, I have to change my pantaloons.

 

[spartan-magpie]

Re: Fev trade

You jest, surely. Travis vacated the forward 50 this year leaving Jack on his lonesome, Fev rarely leaves there and I don't mind the idea of two stay at home forwards with Dick or Thomas around them. That's an exponential improvement and will straighten our forward entries right out.

Fev would get a contract with clauses about behaviour, If he screws up, he's out and thus ends our financial obligations, if not, he will be kicking a bucketload and making us a genuine contendor. In any case, as our young players come on and need more $, Fev will be on the way out.

I also hope we might try and nab a Ball or Tuck to bolster the midfield. Add a Charman... Hang on, I have to change my pantaloons.

this is the part he has 11 years to address.. so if he f%$ks up again goodbye pick 14 + whichever young gun we offload and goodbye fev? im all for fev.. provided we dont trade away our future..

 

[Old Spice]

Re: Fev trade

Pick 14 is an unknown quantity, Fev is a proven performer and dominant forwards don't come along that often - you must use your balls and nab.

 

[Quicky]

Re: Blues to trade Fevola

Interesting Quicky, about the moral high ground. I think however, that the fact that he is contracted (for a fair few years) might offset that. As in, we can keep him, at only the cost of 'face' hypothetically. But I think he may have caused some sort of a rift within the playing group, and I too, cannot see him staying.

I think something much more than Dawes and 14 would be required to get it done - time will tell. I think we would be looking for 2 forward options, or a KP forward and a another KP player that releases one of Waite or Austin to play forward.

Although with that said Waite is only a year or so shy of Fevola's age, and that would infer a steel confidence in Austin's ability to become a goal-kicker, which I am not sure about. Could be a fifteen way trade that brings Kennedy back!?

So do I. I was just saying i'd do that deal in a heart beat. But I think it really depends on how much interest between clubs there is for his services and how much conviction Carlton have to keeping to their decision. If Carlton have decided Fevola is gone regardless of any other circumstances, and we somehow end up the only ones interested a deal like that may get struck. Personally I can see a bit of a bidding war between us and Sydney (despite reports they are not interested) and the price being a fair bit higher. I also can't see us giving up Reid, Brown or Anthony - that leaves Cloke, Medhurst, Davis type players and our later picks to add to the bargain. StKilda may join the bargaining and perhaps offer a juicy player + picks deal too. I can't see any other clubs being interested/have the cap room to deal for Fev though.

 

[Old Spice]

Re: Fev trade

Yeah so were the Beams and Sidebottom picks last year.. I'd back Hine over a 29 year old f-uck up

...and so were Stanley and Cook, hence the concept of an unknown quantity.

 

[PieBeast]

Re: Fev trade

At the end of the day, we're eventually going to have to think short term list-management if we're going to have a genuine crack at winning the flag. We can't just keep thinking, at the end of every single year, about players that will be ripe in 4-5 years time.

Collingwood to win the Premiership in 2010. Impossible is nothing.

Spot on mate .
We've been a young up and coming team for the last 3 years , unless something drastic happens i cant see us wining a flag before 2012 .
I say go for the throat .

Want a ****in flag NOW .

 

[Old Spice]

Re: Fev trade

Carlton have stipulated a single digit 1st round pick (we don't have that)

And a quality young player

So not only do we have to pay 700K, we have to trade someone off to get a top 10 pick and then give up one of our best young kids

Then hope he doesn't f-uck up and put us in the position of having to sack him and losing everything

WAKE UP PEOPLE

As per other thread, that's an ambit claim, like 20% pay-rise over three years. In any case, does that mean you'd accept a deal that involves our pick 14? If not, why not just say, I don't wan't Fev rather than pretending you do, but we don't have the picks.

 

[jefffff34]

Re: Fev trade

Yeah so were the Beams and Sidebottom picks last year.. I'd back Hine over a 29 year old f-uck up

May I remind you what pick we got Beams last year?

 

[Quicky]

Re: Fev trade

dont wish such a thing we will hear about it for years

Basically if we go for fev and then get cold feet ill spew, we didnt want lockett because of off field he would have won us a flag along with sav but no uncle richo says no

Same happens again, he is being offered to us FFS ill crack it. This is our chance to be ready in 2010 right here in front us. We wills till have a good side in 2012 but get Fev and we will HAVE A GOOD SIDE CAPABLE OF A FLAG RIGHT NOW RIGHT ****EN NOW!!!

isnt that what we want?

Totally agree with this Opti. We have a very rare chance to get a genuinely elite player at alot below what he should be worth - and at a time we have a team that can have a crack at a premiership. We need to grasp the opportunity. We also need to be smart - as Old Spice has mentioned, we have to put a fair offer on the table or else we will f-ark it. Pick 14 and Dawes is a good starting point but I hope we are prepared to offer a bit more if it is required. If we could snare someone like Kennedy/Tuck to help harden up our midfield with a later pick/fringe player we would be well well on our way to a premiership.

 

[HFF]

Re: Fev trade

"It is understood the Pies' football department is not as open to adding Fevola to its mix as McGuire may be, but that may change during official talks next week."

Straight from the herald sun.

I'm pretty sure most of us would have thought this was the case.

It doesn't have anything to do with us gaining Fev but was is required to sacrifice in order to get him. That's the sticky point.

There is no doubt Hine in accordance with Malthouse have earmarked the draft and certain player/s i.e. John Butcher rumour. Thus, we really want to keep our first round selection or upgrade it.

Will be interesting next week.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Re: Fev trade

I agree with Opti and Quicky in that this is a golden oportunity to have a crack at a premiership a couple of years earlier then any of us would have thought.

I think we can get Fev at a descent price, but a worth while price.

If we could get him for Pick 14 + Dawes.....Let him go. He is far from the chosen 1 IMO. Too many people have geed Dawes up to be more then he will ever be. I think he'll be a serviceable player, but never a JB/Roo/Fev.

Having said that i am willing to throw Pick 14 + Cloke. Now that's a good deal as it fills a gap for the blue baggers Fwd line and gives them a chance to draft a young KP FWD to develop.

I think if we pick up Fev/Ball or Tuck/Drum which is very realistic, then we will have put ourselves in a position for a real crack at the cup.

The only concern i would have then is the ruck department, which would mean keeping both Fraser and Bryan/Leroy as back-up in case of injury.

I'm keen, any1 else think this is a golden ticket?

 

[HFF]

Re: Fev trade

NT, you are completely urealsitic IMO.

Blues won't accept pick 14 + Dawes IMO. Nobody will be willing to come to the party for Fev and he will be retained.

Also, Tuck is a hack. He will not under any circumstances be at Collingwood next season. Ditto Drum, who perhaps may have talent but we have plenty of his type.

Then there is Ball. He is damaged goods. Sure, he plays well in the wet but he gets founded out now on a dry track. Injuries have cruelled him. He is no longer the player he once was. It's amazing to think he was taken between Hodge and Judd- both who are now light years ahead of him.

 

[didaka]

Re: Fev trade

Pursue Fev. We have a good group of developing players across the park. Plenty of youth, we're in the position to have a crack at a big name now.

Package Dawes, he'll never be an A grader, while Fevola is well and truly.

It will open our window right up from 2010 onwards. Jack will take over from Fev when his time comes, until then he can float around as a 3rd stringer without the weight of competing against the likes of Scarlett and Lake.

We really lack a big strong presence up forward so Fev will fit right in.

We've done a good job since 2004 developing this side, let's add some icing to the cake with a speculative first round selection in a thin draft.

It's time to chase a flag instead of repeating over and over that we're 2 years away.

Fev will kick 80 next yer minimum. It's amazing how overrated a youngster can be when comparing them to the best full-forward in the league.

Mick you have 2 years left, go out swinging mate.

 

[didaka]

Re: Fev trade

Way too early for that call on Dawes

And what if Fev loses a yard of pace as they do at that age?

What if he ****s up again

Not worth what we'll have to give them

Who the **** are you?

 

[HFF]

Re: Fev trade

Who the **** are you?

Easy now. It's just his opinion just like you have made yours clear.

At the end of the day the club will make the correct decision.

Last year many wanted Didak out, the club kept the faith and were rewarded.

This year, again a decision is at hand.

Do we trust the devil we know in Hine or the devil we don't know in Fev?

Ultimately, it is a football department decision and not Ed's (who we know is a close friend of Fevs).

My gut feel is the club is not looking favourably at Fev and wants to continue to puruse and build with youth.

 

[didaka]

Re: Fev trade

Easy now. It's just his opinion just like you have made yours clear.

At the end of the day the club will make the correct decision.

C'mon dude, you know me, and you know I'm messing with him.

My fear is that we're always one player away and always will be. We have the chance here to get it done, strike fear into our opponents. Even if it's only for 3 years, the opposition has to plan for Fevola, Cloke, Medhurst, Didak, Anthony and Davis. Think about it.

Pick 14 is being severely overrated by some. It's a speculative selection, Fevola, like it or not, is a superstar and take us to the next level for the next 3 years.

Without him, we're still a long way away from the benchmark, and I tell you something, we're also going to be competing with Hawthorn again. If we have Fevola, we also have the scoring power to match it with Franklin and Roughead.

Young talent, while it is the backbone of footy, it is severely over rated when pursuing a superstar, sorry I mean megastar. And the fact the salary Fev is on has been brought into play, means we can negotiate harder as we have plenty of room.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Re: Fev trade

NT, you are completely urealsitic IMO.

Blues won't accept pick 14 + Dawes IMO. Nobody will be willing to come to the party for Fev and he will be retained.

Also, Tuck is a hack. He will not under any circumstances be at Collingwood next season. Ditto Drum, who perhaps may have talent but we have plenty of his type.

Then there is Ball. He is damaged goods. Sure, he plays well in the wet but he gets founded out now on a dry track. Injuries have cruelled him. He is no longer the player he once was. It's amazing to think he was taken between Hodge and Judd- both who are now light years ahead of him.

OK, like yr namesake yr still a little wet behind the ears so i'll explain a couple of things.

If you read the post thats why i said Pick 14 + Cloke at a pinch.

When you go to Singapore sim lim square, do you say, hmmm that camera for $400 but i'm willing to pay $600 if you cant do that deal?

Luke Ball, Damaged goods as you call him....2009 GF 10 contested possesions and 7 clearances from around 50% game time....My god, imagine if he was the player he once was.

Now apart from Obree in the PF, no one else had any numbers even close to this. The game against ADL isnt even worth mentioning regarding CP and Cl numbers.

Shane Tuck, A bloke who thrives on contested possesions. Hard bodied and hard at the contest. Would allow guys like Swan and Pendles to play wider and improve the CP and inside 50's count which we lack tenfold. Cost = nothing.

Drum is young with excellent disposal, top 10 draft pick who IMO will be cheap and a good fit for the pies.

 

[didaka]

Re: Fev trade

I'm the guy telling you how the f-uck it is

soft.

 

[didaka]

Re: Fev trade

Ball played well in the wet, can't get a kick when it's dry

Tuck butchers half his possessions

And Carlton will get Cloke over Hine's cold dead body

I'd say you are a little wet behind the ears


And Akihabara is far better value.. baka gaijin

The reason why we have failed for 49 of the last 50 years is because our football club is run by people like yourself.

 

[didaka]

Re: Fev trade

No it's because we have whiny little bitches like you that over react all the time

You've hurt my feelings.

Coward.

 

[didaka]

Re: Fev trade

Double post.