Brisbane Will Finish At Least 2 Games Clear Of Collingwood In 2008!!!

[PROUD LION]

And that is all this thread is about, isn't it? I bet you're sitting at your computer all pumped up and feeling cool. Good luck with that dude.

You're not worth a genuine response

Nope, just a slow day in the world of Marine Cargo Insurance

As for the pumped up part, not really, us Brisbane supporters are used to beating up on your mob, especially in GF's

 

[PROUD LION]

LOL, i wonder if you would say that if you wern't behind your computer, i also like the time of day you have picked, a very small amount of Collingwood supporters are online atm, good choice, and good luck.

Ahh yes, working hours.......

 

[privatopia]

Ten thousand starving comedians in the world, and you're working for free. At least its clear you're writing your own material.

Seriously, I don't see the point in blatant shit stirring just for the sake of it. I therefore label you a giant tool forever. Do some work.

 

[SirJimi05]

Brisbane could well finish two games clear of the Pies but i rate them both very highly so it is anyones guess.

I actually tipped a West Coast vs Brisbane GF in another thread for what it is worth.

 

[doppleganger]

Yep, that's my call......bookmark me and either commend or bag me after Rd.22

At least ur having a crack and trying to come up with reasons...problem being ur reasoning is all over the shop.

The main reasons for my opinion is that I see their spine as one of the weakest of the top performed sides. For me, a spine that includes Rocca, O'Bree, Wakelin and Fraser just doesn't cut it. A prime example was the Geelong Prelim. where a decent ruckman and an even 4 quarter CHF effort of say 10 kicks, 3 goals would have seen a Pies premiership in 2007.

The pies will add two new rucks to our PF side, Fraser and Wood will be our 1 & 2 ruck in 08. Fraser is over his back injury and in full training.....

T.Cloke is our CHF and he was Collingwood's best player in the PF.

Travis Cloke is a top young footballer, but would be a lot better if Rocca was not in the team. Rocca has only once delivered on the big stage (2002 GF)...but then, surprise surprise his body failed him in crunch time at the end of the game I may be harsh, but not as harsh as Pies supporters are going to be if they miss out on silverware b/c of this overated dinosaur.

Rocca helps T.Cloke play better.....he attracts a crowd of defenders and allows Trav to be one out and beat one opponent!

I'd be playing Cloke at CHF and Rusling at FF with Davis, Thomas and Medhurst crumming and Didak as the freak that every forward line needs

They did that last year.

T.Cloke was our CHF all year
Rusling when fit lead out from the square.
Rocca was the long target in the 50.

Rusling only played 5 games all year, the only game the pies lost was the PF.

Both teams have young emerging lists with players developing much quicker than expected, with almost half their lists being U/21. The reason I think the Lions will overtake the Pies this year is the more experienced players at Brisbane are a lot better (particularly in the KP) than at Collingwood. Even though they didn't play much last year, losing Buckley and Clement will hurt the Pies, and in the 2 areas most big games are decided nowdays.

The Brisbane veterans were better last year two.....didn't help em much at all.

Take a look at say the TOP 6 experienced players at each club:

Black v O'Bree
Brown v Rocca
Charman v Fraser
Power v Burns
Lappin v Lockyer
Notting v Maxwell

Apart from Maxwell, the other players compared are well in Brisbanes' favour.

Only one of those Collingwood players were in the top6 in the B&F. They aren't our matchwinners anymore!

I think that the Pies will definately play finals this season, as they should with 18 games in Melbourne, it's just that I think that until the "old breed" are replaced (Rocca, O'Bree, Fraser, Burns)....the Pies will not win the ultimate prize. These players have tried and failed in their quest for a premiership, there's no point slowing down the development of a team just so that these players get a game.

The pies dont rely on the 'old breed' anymore, other players have usurped them in importance........except for Fraser, but at 25-26 he aint old for a ruckman anyway, entering his prime as a ruck actually!

As for the Lions, anything can happen with Matthews steering the ship and Brown tearing teams apart week in week out.....I think the younger brigade (Adcock, Merrett, Drummond, Hooper) will decide where the Lions end up this season.

Final word;

Lions 14-8
Pies 12-10

Your honest thoughts would be much appreciated

You dont know much about which players got the pies into the finals in 07.

Do some better research before singling out an opposition team to compare the Brions to!

 

[Hollow Knight]

Looks like Proud_Lion has been banned (most likely for the dreaded "R" word).

The Lions look to be shaping up pretty well for the future, but this sort of bragging is grossly premature.

Perhaps we can let this thread die now.

 

[privatopia]

Agreed

 

[FuManchu]

Brisbane will win 11 games tops, might crack the 8, also may fall in a heap. If Bradshaw comes back successfully, they will be a better side, taking the pressure off Brown and presenting a far more formidable forward structure.

 

[Ron]

Brisbane make the eight? Are they getting their salary cap allowance back? Because without it they are a 9-12 side.

 

[bradrowe#32]

Brisbane don't deserve to make the finals if they have a spud like Merrett. Biggest dud in the land.

 

[Chasing the Dream]

Brisbane make the eight? Are they getting their salary cap allowance back? Because without it they are a 9-12 side.

And there are those who say everyone has an infatuation with Collingwood.

 

[jaykippa]

Brisbane make the eight? Are they getting their salary cap allowance back? Because without it they are a 9-12 side.

its amazing the collingwood bogans i mean supporters weren't tearing uo about the salary cap when we were on the bottom end of the ladder.
oh thats right we weren't beating them in grand finals yet.

 

[Bucks Past]

If the benchmark is 1 premiership in 50 years, then yes

dont forget 15 other grand finals we lost if u make the gf thats good enough

 

[FuManchu]

And there are those who say everyone has an infatuation with Collingwood.

Brisbane's infatuation with any type of concession, far outweighs any other footballing infatuation

 

[Bucks Past]

its amazing the collingwood bogans i mean supporters weren't tearing uo about the salary cap when we were on the bottom end of the ladder.
oh thats right we weren't beating them in grand finals yet.

you cheats live with it grow up dick

 

[Lockyer24]

Yep, that's my call......bookmark me and either commend or bag me after Rd.22

The main reasons for my opinion is that I see their spine as one of the weakest of the top performed sides. For me, a spine that includes Rocca, O'Bree, Wakelin and Fraser just doesn't cut it. A prime example was the Geelong Prelim. where a decent ruckman and an even 4 quarter CHF effort of say 10 kicks, 3 goals would have seen a Pies premiership in 2007.

Travis Cloke is a top young footballer, but would be a lot better if Rocca was not in the team. Rocca has only once delivered on the big stage (2002 GF)...but then, surprise surprise his body failed him in crunch time at the end of the game I may be harsh, but not as harsh as Pies supporters are going to be if they miss out on silverware b/c of this overated dinosaur.

I'd be playing Cloke at CHF and Rusling at FF with Davis, Thomas and Medhurst crumming and Didak as the freak that every forward line needs

Both teams have young emerging lists with players developing much quicker than expected, with almost half their lists being U/21. The reason I think the Lions will overtake the Pies this year is the more experienced players at Brisbane are a lot better (particularly in the KP) than at Collingwood. Even though they didn't play much last year, losing Buckley and Clement will hurt the Pies, and in the 2 areas most big games are decided nowdays.

Take a look at say the TOP 6 experienced players at each club:

Black v O'Bree
Brown v Rocca
Charman v Fraser
Power v Burns
Lappin v Lockyer
Notting v Maxwell

Apart from Maxwell, the other players compared are well in Brisbanes' favour.

I think that the Pies will definately play finals this season, as they should with 18 games in Melbourne, it's just that I think that until the "old breed" are replaced (Rocca, O'Bree, Fraser, Burns)....the Pies will not win the ultimate prize. These players have tried and failed in their quest for a premiership, there's no point slowing down the development of a team just so that these players get a game.

As for the Lions, anything can happen with Matthews steering the ship and Brown tearing teams apart week in week out.....I think the younger brigade (Adcock, Merrett, Drummond, Hooper) will decide where the Lions end up this season.

Final word;

Lions 14-8
Pies 12-10

Your honest thoughts would be much appreciated

I think we have you covered as we are a deeper team but time will tell. We should both make the lower half of the eight I would think.

 

[shotta]

Collingwood are the benchmark by which all teams are measured, evidently.

Thank$.

No they are, or should be an embarrassment to their tormented supporters. Who would be stupid eneough to brag about being 50 years old and seen their beloved rabble win 1 flag?

 

[bomba4eva]

The Lions are very overrated. Will be on the outskirts of the 8. Could scrape into 7-8th possibly. They are a solid unit but certainly not one capable of making top 4. Collingwood are extremely overrated and IMO are not a premiership threat. Were lucky in the semi final against WC facing them without three players that are in the top 10 in the league! Very commendable effort against the Cats, but were extremely inconsistent during the season. Never put any side away. Will be shown for what they are really worth next season. Have some talent coming through in Pendelbury, Rusling and Cloke, but their inexperience combined with their rather lacklustre midfield should see them plummet to the fringes of the 8 and they could conceivably miss out of the top 8.
Both teams are no threat for the flag.

 

[Optimax]

Ayone else find it funny the tool thats tarted this thread is red carde already?

 

[thatday]

Ayone else find it funny the tool thats tarted this thread is red carde already?

He used the R word.

 

[thatday]

The Lions are very overrated. Will be on the outskirts of the 8. Could scrape into 7-8th possibly. They are a solid unit but certainly not one capable of making top 4. Collingwood are extremely overrated and IMO are not a premiership threat. Were lucky in the semi final against WC facing them without three players that are in the top 10 in the league! Very commendable effort against the Cats, but were extremely inconsistent during the season. Never put any side away. Will be shown for what they are really worth next season. Have some talent coming through in Pendelbury, Rusling and Cloke, but their inexperience combined with their rather lacklustre midfield should see them plummet to the fringes of the 8 and they could conceivably miss out of the top 8.
Both teams are no threat for the flag.

I find it interesting tha the main two supporter groups that have this opinion are Carlton and Essendon supporters, but everyone has there own opinion, mine on Collingwood is that we will make top 4, i am a little biased but thats my opinion.

 

[KissStephanie]

Your honest thoughts would be much appreciated

My honest thoughts are that I don't think Brisbane will make the finals, and unless they get their salary cap gifts back from the AFL, they won't for a few more years. I also think that Collingwood's second favouritism for the premiership is justified at this stage, and it means more to me than any prediction from anti-Collingwood posters on BigFooty of course.

 

[bomba4eva]

I find it interesting tha the main two supporter groups that have this opinion are Carlton and Essendon supporters, but everyone has there own opinion, mine on Collingwood is that we will make top 4, i am a little biased but thats my opinion.

Hahaha, it is a good point as we both do hate the Pies with a passion. I see the same with Hawks fans digging the boots into Essendon all the time, and I am yet to see one Hawk fan who thinks we wont finish in the bottom 4. Most have us as spoon winners too.
I honestly think the Pies are very overrated with a good finals series that have propelled them into the forefront of everyones mind. They were very lucky to face a severely weakened West Coast side. Also faced a rapidly ageing Sydney side in the first final. But then again, the Pies did have the wood over the Swans. I just think the lack of experience will count against them next season heavily. Dont underestimate the loss of Buckley and Clement too.

 

[Cousin Jed]

Brisbane don't deserve to make the finals if they have a spud like Merrett. Biggest dud in the land.

Quoted for Prosperity.

And bookmarked.

 

[bomba4eva]

Any chance of this sentence being translated into non-collingwood English

lol