Brodie Grundy tackle on Ben Brown

[Skeppersap]

If theplayer has a duty of care to provide a safe tackle, why wont Buddy be looked at for his tackle on Selwood last night?

 

[Skeppersap]

Actually its only applied to a very few things. Bumps when you have other options (which is nearly always) and tackles when you pin both arms, spear, drive, lift, slam.

Other than that, its pretty much fair game.

On any weekend there are upwards of 700 tackles laid. We really only see dangerous ones every couple of weeks.

Why should it only apply to these things? Why shouldnt it apply to Franklin's tackle on Selwood last night?

 

[Pumpernickel]

Pretty sure Geelong are not the only club that has had a player suppended through a dangerous tackle. I await your evidence.

Nah us cats supporters are just in a 'everyone and everything is against us' type of mood currently, I'm hoping it will pass soon.

Some of the cool kids, who I'm sure must be mid to late teens are using words such as salty to describe our current moods.
Im not up with the lingo definition but I don't think it's a compliment!

So salty it is.
Without any confidence.

 

[Skeppersap]

How can "duty of care" be factored into a random event such as a tackle where the result is unpredictable. Pies get the lawyers ready.

I agree with this 100%.....however you then argue that Dangerfield deserved his suspension? You just end up sounding like a parochial NIMBY, when what you are saying is 100% correct.

Any while the Collingwood lawyer is there, he should be accusing AFL of not providing a safe workplace.

 

[HairyO]

Why should it only apply to these things? Why shouldnt it apply to Franklin's tackle on Selwood last night?

Which bit of Franklin's tackle did he elect to do something inherently dangerous?

 

[frggr]

How can "duty of care" be factored into a random event such as a tackle where the result is unpredictable. Pies get the lawyers ready.

Dunno, but that's what the interpretation is. They base it on the idea that once the arms are pinned, the tackled player is basically "along for the ride" - so it's up to the tackler to make sure they don't hit their head.

 

[Ry009]

If theplayer has a duty of care to provide a safe tackle, why wont Buddy be looked at for his tackle on Selwood last night?

Video?

 

[HairyO]

Dunno, but that's what the interpretation is. They base it on the idea that once the arms are pinned, the tackled player is basically "along for the ride" - so it's up to the tackler to make sure they don't hit their head.

This. If you grab someone in such a way that they arent able to protect themselves, then you are 100% responsible for what happens next.

And for all the crap from the commentators about how they didnt see anything bad... it was clearly bad - because Brown was slammed in to the ground, and because Brown wasnt moving.

The really dangerous bit was after about 15 or 20 seconds when he rolled on to his back.

 

[STPer18]

Ziebell and Mumford need to be booked for their dump tackles also. Precedent has been set. This is going to be fun.

 

[SheezNuts]

Pinned arms

Clear slinging motion

Driven into ground

KO'd

Sent to Hospital

2 weeks absolute minimum.

 

[toxic]

This needs to stop!!

A serious injury waiting to happen with these tackles.

Anyone that thinks it's the perfect tackle is totally ignorant to the fact that these tackles are regarded as dangerous and players will be suspended.




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How are they regarded as dangerous?

If you could site the exact afl rules or afl demo video rather than personal opinion that'd be great

 

[toxic]

Brown went to hospital in an ambulance no way he gets off three weeks down to two minimum.

Keep dreaming

 

[theyellowsash]

grundys totally ****ed. it was a two action tackle, which is the exact type they are trying to prevent. he had brown pinned and not moving, then decided to turn him and smash him into the ground for some reason. completely unlike the danger penalty, and i think he is looking at 3-4 weeks minimum.

 

[HairyO]

If theplayer has a duty of care to provide a safe tackle, why wont Buddy be looked at for his tackle on Selwood last night?

You should read the rules, then come back and edit this post.

 

[HairyO]

grundys totally ******. it was a two action tackle, which is the exact type they are trying to prevent. he had brown pinned and not moving, then decided to turn him and smash him into the ground for some reason. completely unlike the danger penalty, and i think he is looking at 3-4 weeks minimum.

It will be 3 down to 2 like McCarthy. I dont think they will be able to prove intent - which is what you'd need for a longer penalty.

 

[Cursed Cat]

I only just saw the footage; did Grundy actually win the free kick for htb against Brown?
If so, this is getting farcical ..

 

[frggr]

It will be 3 down to 2 like McCarthy. I dont think they will be able to prove intent - which is what you'd need for a longer penalty.

It'll be 3 down to 2, then Eddie will challenge it and lose, then it'll just be 3

 

[toxic]

I only just saw the footage; did Grundy actually win the free kick for htb against Brown?
If so, this is getting farcical ..

Yes.. htb.

 

[Adz]

It wasn't two actioned. He was rewarded with a free. The AFL can't suspend someone after deeming it an appropriate action. They would be contradicting themselves which would require a constitution change. It's just not going to happen.
The perfect tackle as described by Buckley.
I'd take his view over some bimbo Wood.

 

[bumsonseats]

2007 - Geelong
2008 - *
2009 - Geelong
2010 - Collingwood
2011 - Geelong

Love your little quote down the bottom of your posts.......2008 still hurts hey
2008 - the year that shall not be mentioned

 

[The_Todd07]

It wasn't two actioned. He was rewarded with a free. The AFL can't suspend someone after deeming it an appropriate action. They would be contradicting themselves which would require a constitution change. It's just not going to happen.
The perfect tackle as described by Buckley.
I'd take his view over some bimbo Wood.

You might want to google the Koby Stevens suspension from earlier this year

 

[Adz]

Yes.. htb.

I only just saw the footage; did Grundy actually win the free kick for htb against Brown?
If so, this is getting farcical ..

Why wouldn't he have? The tackle was fine. Browns unfortubate incident was secondary to the incident.

It's akin to suspending someone after you've kicked the ball into their face as they've manned the mark and ball broke their nose.

 

[firefighter]

How is it duty of care if Brown elects to use his head as cushioning?

Don't think he had a pillow on him at the time. The tackler should provide that anyway.

 

[HairyO]

It wasn't two actioned. He was rewarded with a free. The AFL can't suspend someone after deeming it an appropriate action. They would be contradicting themselves which would require a constitution change. It's just not going to happen.
The perfect tackle as described by Buckley.
I'd take his view over some bimbo Wood.

I really hope you just returned from an overseas trip where you had zero access to anything Aussie Rules related.

 

[Adz]

Pies will take this to the courts so Grundy may eventually miss. Won't be next week though.