Traded Bryce Gibbs [traded to Adelaide] - (cont. in Part 2)

[Doro]

Actually, having had peek though your posting on this topic, you're the direct opposite to type of poster that I was referring to. Obviously, I wasn't actually suggesting that there would be any likelihood of 40 man lists swapping jumpers en-masse in October. I posed the question because many of your posting brethren would not make the same choice that you would.

The question isn't pointless. It provides a position at which we can assess the poster. As an example, do think that Gibbs would be our second best mid or that Lever wouldn't get a gig in your backline? Do you think that Brisbane will let Rocky go at band 2 compo for $700k per year when they have the first pick in the PSD? Many Carlton posters wouldn't think Lever depth, Gibbs our second best and Rocky a certainty for zippo via RFA.

Are you actually Reid or Roo? Why do you care so much about forum posters opinions? It doesn't reflect on the negotiations themselves.

 

[Crow till I die]

What is that based on?

Played 22 games the last 2 seasons. Only had one season in 11 where he played under 20 games.

Evidence isn't there to support your assertion.

We could have said the same about scott thompson at the end of last year..played most games for seasons on end. Who would have known that he was cooked this year.. same with gibbs..been great over the years but at close to 30 it is a big risk paying overs for a guy that could hit the wall at any time

 

[Big_Luch]

It's a constant theme amongst your supporters, both in the main and on your board. Lever wouldn't get a gig in your back line, Watts not worthy of a best 22 spot up forward, Gibbs would be our second best mid, nearly neck and neck with Sloane. If you didn't know anything about football, reading the average of your supporter's posts, you'd think that you were in the middle of a Geelong or Hawthornesque dynasty. I'm not sure how you guys do it, but you seem to have very little idea of where you're actually at and the real value of your players.

Tell me this, with hindsight in full bloom, if you could go back in time, would you swap lists with Adelaide during last years trade period. You get to choose whether you take Adelaide's list into the 2017 season in Carlton's guernseys or would you prefer your list?

Can you reference any posts which allude to the above?

My Take
- Lever, there would be posts regarding us not needing key backs as we have them well and truly covered
- Watts, very flaky and is a perennial whipping boy so no surprise posters don't like him
- Gibbs would be up there with your mids below Sloane (semantics anyway)
- Carlton supporters for once are embracing the process and excited by the hope of the new crop coming through, heaven forbid we speak positively of our team
- only a complete moron would take the Carlton list over the Adelaide

I for one am backing the Crows to win next week, play the best football and deserve to win. good luck

 

[plentyblckie]

The first part I kind of agree with. SOS was given late notice that an experienced mid was planning on leaving and wouldn't have had any irons in the fire. Given that Gibbs was contracted, SOS didn't need to worry too much about replacing him because he was only ever letting him go for significant overs, not that this will change this year. But you won't be getting Rocky for nothing unless you are paying certain band 1 compensation. With pick one in the PSD, there's no way that Brisbane are letting him go for pick 18. His value is at least the equal of Gibbs and courtesy of pick position, Brisbane will just re-draft him if they don't get a deal that they're happy with. This is the Danger RFA situation all over again. If it's band 1, he's gone for compo, if it's band 2, then whoever is after him will be paying at least a mid first and mid second.

Well get off our board.

Actually, having had peek though your posting on this topic, you're the direct opposite to type of poster that I was referring to. Obviously, I wasn't actually suggesting that there would be any likelihood of 40 man lists swapping jumpers en-masse in October. I posed the question because many of your posting brethren would not make the same choice that you would.

The question isn't pointless. It provides a position at which we can assess the poster. As an example, do think that Gibbs would be our second best mid or that Lever wouldn't get a gig in your backline? Do you think that Brisbane will let Rocky go at band 2 compo for $700k per year when they have the first pick in the PSD? Many Carlton posters wouldn't think Lever depth, Gibbs our second best and Rocky a certainty for zippo via RFA.

Well get off out board. Get on your own and peddle that drible there

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

The question isn't pointless. It provides a position at which we can assess the poster. As an example, do think that Gibbs would be our second best mid or that Lever wouldn't get a gig in your backline? Do you think that Brisbane will let Rocky go at band 2 compo for $700k per year when they have the first pick in the PSD? Many Carlton posters wouldn't think Lever depth, Gibbs our second best and Rocky a certainty for zippo via RFA.

I think Gibbs could be right up there amongst your best midfielders ... yes. He certainly has the attributes and in a better side with more support, it is quite possible.

Lever would make our side for sure. We have our defence sorted though so don't have a real need for him.

I don't know what Brisbane will do with Rockliff. They can match and if he was still intent on leaving I don't see them using the PSD. They are at a phase where they have players wanting to re-sign and won't want players who don't want to be there. He is out of contract. The AFLPA and AFL won't look too fondly on an uncontracted player being held to ransom. All comes down to what he wants and compo.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Well get off our board.

Well get off out board. Get on your own and peddle that drible there

You are on the drafts and trade board.

 

[Inzy7]

I ask the question to these crows supporters down playing Gibbs as a player and how he would be behind so many of their players!!!
Why have you been chasing him since last year if he is so bad?? Now i do feel he would be your 4th best midfielder behind Sloane and the Crouch boys but why should we give him up for anything less than what we value him??

 

[FyfeToAdelaide]

I ask the question to these crows supporters down playing Gibbs as a player and how he would be behind so many of their players!!!
Why have you been chasing him since last year if he is so bad?? Now i do feel he would be your 4th best midfielder behind Sloane and the Crouch boys but why should we give him up for anything less than what we value him??

We were chasing him since we got screwed out of f/s selection on him. U would say that chase probably died when he signed a contract taking him inyo his 30s. Last year however he decided he wanted to go home..

 

[Inzy7]

We were chasing him since we got screwed out of f/s selection on him. U would say that chase probably died when he signed a contract taking him inyo his 30s. Last year however he decided he wanted to go home..

I'm hearing what you are saying but my question still remains!! why should we give him up for anything less than what we believe he is worth!! Its up to the crows to get him there not us!!

 

[FyfeToAdelaide]

I'm hearing what you are saying but my question still remains!! why should we give him up for anything less than what we believe he is worth!! Its up to the crows to get him there not us!!

You shouldn't, he shouldn't of signed such a long contract giving us nothing to work with to get him for his actual value.

 

[Inzy7]

You shouldn't, he shouldn't of signed such a long contract giving us nothing to work with to get him for his actual value.

Dont get me wrong i dont believe he is worth two first rounders but i also think we committed to 5 years and why should we give him up to the side that will win this years flag for anything but overs

 

[Shaz2012]

I ask the question to these crows supporters down playing Gibbs as a player and how he would be behind so many of their players!!!
Why have you been chasing him since last year if he is so bad?? Now i do feel he would be your 4th best midfielder behind Sloane and the Crouch boys but why should we give him up for anything less than what we value him??

I think most crows fans think Gibbs is a good player. 4th best is about right without seeing him play for us. We would all be hoping he comes in and wins a brownlow. But where you lose most of us is how long you insist he will be able to prolong his current form. He would join us at 29 next season. Nobody is buying this 4 or 5 years stuff. The cliff hits hard, see greats like Pendlebury for example. Its like anything you buy second hand. You pay for what you think it will reasonably give and hope it lasts longer.

For Gibbs we can expect 2 years really 29 & 30. After that its a bonus.

 

[FyfeToAdelaide]

Dont get me wrong i dont believe he is worth two first rounders but i also think we committed to 5 years and why should we give him up to the side that will win this years flag for anything but overs

The crows interest probably isn't as strong as last year, the only reason you would accept his actual value would be for Gibbs personally, nothing to do with Adelaide. If you want to let your player go home for family reasons I mean. If not the trade more than likely doesn't get done..

 

[Inzy7]

I think most crows fans think Gibbs is a good player. 4th best is about right without seeing him play for us. We would all be hoping he comes in and wins a brownlow. But where you lose most of us is how long you insist he will be able to prolong his current form. He would join us at 29 next season. Nobody is buying this 4 or 5 years stuff. The cliff hits hard, see greats like Pendlebury for example. Its like anything you buy second hand. You pay for what you think it will reasonably give and hope it lasts longer.

For Gibbs we can expect 2 years really 29 & 30. After that its a bonus.

you lost me when you called Pendlebury a great

 

[Shaz2012]

you lost me when you called Pendlebury a great

Well not "a great". As in all time. But of the current players his best would put him in the top handful of players. But this year compared to his peak is like chalk and cheese. Which is my point. We wont be getting the best of Bryce. So he shouldn't be priced as if he was 25.

 

[Mego Red]

What is that based on?

Played 22 games the last 2 seasons. Only had one season in 11 where he played under 20 games.

Evidence isn't there to support your assertion.

The evidence to support that he is going to start getting old man injuries is that he is becoming an old man.

 

[Mego Red]

Did I say I was trolling or did i say that if someone writes something just to get under our skin, instead of letting it get under my skin (which it doesn't) I just respond in kind. The funny thing is that people like you show yourselves as complete nuffies as you dish it out but are completely outraged when you get it back.

I'm only outraged by stupidity.

Very happy to get intelligent comments served back. It's the dumb time wasting ones that bother me.

 

[Benny78]

Dont get me wrong i dont believe he is worth two first rounders but i also think we committed to 5 years and why should we give him up to the side that will win this years flag for anything but overs

LOLOLOLWOLTROLLTLFOLFLOL

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

LOLOLOLWOLTROLLTLFOLFLOL

Why highlight that and ignore the 'I don't believe he is worth' part immediately preceding it? Odd.

 

[Benny78]

Why highlight that and ignore the 'I don't believe he is worth' part immediately preceding it? Odd.

Why are 2 first rounders even being mentioned in the same sentence as Bryce Gibbs?

Tripping absolute balls.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Why are 2 first rounders even being mentioned in the same sentence as Bryce Gibbs?

Tripping absolute balls.

Because that is what Carlton asked for last year because they didn't want Gibbs to leave with 3 years on his contract, when we didn't have any midfield depth, without an amazing trade.

I remind you that not all first rounders are the same. Treloar ended up costing #7 and #7 with #28 going back the other way. At the time Carlton would have taken 2 late first rounders or maybe negotiated on a second rounder instead. They were simply not prepared to let him go so they set a high price.

How were you not aware of this story before?

 

[plentyblckie]

You are on the drafts and trade board.

I know..but he said he gets on our board.

 

[plentyblckie]

I think most crows fans think Gibbs is a good player. 4th best is about right without seeing him play for us. We would all be hoping he comes in and wins a brownlow. But where you lose most of us is how long you insist he will be able to prolong his current form. He would join us at 29 next season. Nobody is buying this 4 or 5 years stuff. The cliff hits hard, see greats like Pendlebury for example. Its like anything you buy second hand. You pay for what you think it will reasonably give and hope it lasts longer.

For Gibbs we can expect 2 years really 29 & 30. After that its a bonus.

Nobody knows how long he will last.
But 2 things in his favour
1. Hes not reliant on speed..so as guys get older they tend to lose speed and thus their performances dramatically drop off
2. He is versatile...can play inside and out
Can go forward
And as his first half of career showed can play as the qb in defense

 

[My name geoff]

I'm only outraged by stupidity.

Very happy to get intelligent comments served back. It's the dumb time wasting ones that bother me.

Firstly, Gibbs would never even get into a knock out final, unless he changes clubs.

Secondly, if you thought Sloane was tagging last night, then you either didn't watch the game or you just don't football.

Your opinions are gloriously stupid. Reading your posts is like watching a monkey trying to use a laptop.

Sloane is the best midfielder in a side that has won both its finals by ten goals and is going to the grand final.

Gibbs would be our fourth best mid and is maybe a ten percent improvement on Rory Atkins.

Allow me to direct you to your own comments as a case in point.

Love to dish it out, outraged when it comes back. One eyed nuffie.

As I said, I only snipe in retaliation, so its actually funny to see how easy it is to get under the true nuffies skin.

Thank you for proving my point and allowing me to achieve my objective.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Gibbs will play to around the age 33. He is that durable and unless his body does a complete 360, it really is that simple. Just to highlight how confident I am, I wouldn't say similar about Murphy.